of course the challenge will fail, you're missing the point
the meaning of the story is the states are seriously screwed in that their burdens have been so greatly expanded with no funding, you know, an unfunded mandate
I'll go with the non-partisan CBO's call on that.
the cbo endorsed what the president said "on that," two thirds of all that obamacare contemplates is "paid for" by savings supposedly discovered and recovered from waste, fraud and abuse
it's at 4:45 of the link i provided, i have it memorized, i've cited it so often
Why would you need to pay for something that is not in the bill?
because it costs real money, silly
cuz it should have been part of the bill
cuz it's DISHONEST to take it out of the bill and say everything's paid for
hello
Yes, that is what people do when they don't wish to add to their debt, they save up the money before they make a purchase.
ok, but not many do in times like these
it's not the way the plan was sold altho it's a central part of the pay-for
the pay-for's are very important
hello
Why should be people with the ability to pay for their health insurance be able to skate and then we pay for their care when they go to the emergency room to be admitted.
they shouldn't
and a better president would easily be able to solve that problem without massively expanding already overstrained medicare and medicaid mandates while cutting their funding half a tril
he coulda accomplished these ends without forcing individuals who can't afford a product to go out and buy it themselves
without criminalizing those who can't or won't
a more able president would be able to fix this problem while paying for 10 years of benefits with 10 years of taxes
an honest president would be able to solve problems without breaking so many promises
If you prefer we can go with either the public option or the single payer system.
no, we can't
LOL!
nancy just passed harry's bill
what imaginary world are you living in?
I thought they made better sense
you really seem to think people care about your opinions
this isn't a game, harry's and nancy's obama-bill is real
but the Republicans were opposed to that route.
yup, still are, always will be
There is no longer a cornhusker/gatoraid deal.
well, actually there is, times fifty
and there's still all that sweetheart crap for dakota and dodd and baucus' asbestos and the seiu and the secret deal for phrma, which we haven't talked about yet
you see, i don't want to talk about my opinions, i respect that you could care less
it's just what's in the bill that's interesting
that's a very weak link, the harvard crimson's defense of the kickback
i'd never use it
can you perceive what would happen to the despised prof if he ever posted so partisan an opinion piece?
So no Republicans opposed the public option? Which ones supported it.
you had sixty senators, a majority of 39 downstairs
it's a weak leadership that blames opposition for its failures
Not only is it paid for, it will reduce to deficit according to the non-partisan CBO.
true, but only based on half a T cuts to m and m while massively expanding both
only based on the payment of doctors a living wage, off budget
only based on the double counting of a quarter T, according to cbo
only based on bankrupt states magically picking up 200B of obama's tab without a lincoln penny of federal support
and quite a bit more
this is getting absurd
"he" is the president, the leader of the party, the prime mover behind health care, the guy at least 20 of the 219 did it for personally
Regardless, it passed congress by a majority without Deem and Pass.
you're starting to bore yourself
this bill is a pig