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They are going to get roughly 30 million new customers.
How could they not be happy?
Hmm, you do realize that Medicare is unsustainable, right?
Private insurance largely subsidizes Medicare.
It may take a while, but we'll find that this is more of the same.
Not sustainable? It has been in place since July 28, 1965 and it’s not sustainable? Private insurance companies subsidize Medicare!! Surely you jest? Medicare administrative costs are in the 2 percent range, while private insurance companies’ administrative costs is in the 8.9 percent range. :roll:
Huge cuts to medicare advantage and the part d subsidy.
Doubtful you understand my anger here Cap. I want certain politicians, their sycophants, and an entire political movement rotting in hell right now. Taxes are a necessary evil, they should have a discernable and provable benefit to be proper, nothing I've seen from a historical perspective coming from the twentieth century would pass the necessary and proper test. Check that.....we had a couple of wars in the beginning of the century that needed to be paid for, some infrastructural improvements, etc. But for the most part we became an entitlement society and lost our way. This bill just further empowered a government that is out of control.I understand you're anger, but you are smarter than this. Taxes are NOT forcing your neighbor to pay for others... and that's what you are implying. That's a weak talking point.
First off, regulation needs to be cut to a core of safety/quality standards. We need appropriate de-regulation(not to be confused with simply giving 100% control back to crooks). Secondly we must have tort reform, 1/3 of doctors went on record as saying they will leave their practices the minute this becomes law. Third, yes there does need to be insurance reform, better ideas than this bill were shot down, and that is unfortunate, as an agent I will tell you that the things in this bill will drive costs up. Finally, the AMA needs to lose a lot of influence in legislative matters, don't know if you are a member or not, but they have historically advocated some positions that limited our number of physicians and specialists over the years, healthcare is not a natural market and we are seeing the effects of the controlled market not on it's best behavior.Some, I'm sure is. It didn't go far enough with regulation, and may have gone too far with citizen control, without enough choices.
That plan could work, and it actually fixes stuff. This bill is going to have disastrous results.Remember that plan we had? I was telling it to one of my libertarian friends, and he said the same thing you did. I should be President.
Unfortunately, you're right. It was intelligent, bipartisan, and no one would have listened.
Have trust in me, those cuts will vaporize when republicans get control.
That is their #1 pander group.
Doubtful you understand my anger here Cap. I want certain politicians, their sycophants, and an entire political movement rotting in hell right now. Taxes are a necessary evil, they should have a discernable and provable benefit to be proper, nothing I've seen from a historical perspective coming from the twentieth century would pass the necessary and proper test. Check that.....we had a couple of wars in the beginning of the century that needed to be paid for, some infrastructural improvements, etc. But for the most part we became an entitlement society and lost our way. This bill just further empowered a government that is out of control.
First off, regulation needs to be cut to a core of safety/quality standards. We need appropriate de-regulation(not to be confused with simply giving 100% control back to crooks). Secondly we must have tort reform, 1/3 of doctors went on record as saying they will leave their practices the minute this becomes law. Third, yes there does need to be insurance reform, better ideas than this bill were shot down, and that is unfortunate, as an agent I will tell you that the things in this bill will drive costs up. Finally, the AMA needs to lose a lot of influence in legislative matters, don't know if you are a member or not, but they have historically advocated some positions that limited our number of physicians and specialists over the years, healthcare is not a natural market and we are seeing the effects of the controlled market not on it's best behavior.
Which Wars?
Wasnt part D passed under a Republican President, Senate and Congress?
Yeah donc don't you know...one day...ONE DAY...it will all come crashing down and this country will be a dust bowl in a depression all over again. You'll see...one day.
I'm pretty sure they were.
That's why those cuts will vaporize when they regain control.
Have no doubt that republicans will do the same exploiting that democrats do.
I'm pretty sure they were.
That's why those cuts will vaporize when they regain control.
Have no doubt that republicans will do the same exploiting that democrats do.
WWI and WWII. Korea and 'Nam were unnecessary, as was "The War on Drugs".Which Wars?
So republicans will cut programs they enacted for what reason?
They dont like the programs they brought into effect, and if so why on earth did they bring them into effect
I understand that in 2005 American senior citizens were coming to Canada to get cheaper drugs as one of the motivations, and I dont see that changing anytime soon
IMO, the root cause of health problems in this country(or the majority of them) come from lifestyle choices rather than this perceived lack of healthcare access.
Have trust in me, those cuts will vaporize when republicans get control.
That is their #1 pander group.
WWI and WWII. Korea and 'Nam were unnecessary, as was "The War on Drugs".
Everybody dies.
And nobody goes healthy into the grave.
Breathing- being born- is the lifestyle choice that eventually kills us all.
There's nobody who doesn't need health care, not even a thin, non-drinking, non-smoking vegetarian like me.
There's nobody who doesn't get sick.
And there's nobody who won't eventually become a lot worse, if they aren't able to see a doctor and get treatment for their illnesses while they're still treatable.
Doubtful you understand my anger here Cap. I want certain politicians, their sycophants, and an entire political movement rotting in hell right now. Taxes are a necessary evil, they should have a discernable and provable benefit to be proper, nothing I've seen from a historical perspective coming from the twentieth century would pass the necessary and proper test. Check that.....we had a couple of wars in the beginning of the century that needed to be paid for, some infrastructural improvements, etc. But for the most part we became an entitlement society and lost our way. This bill just further empowered a government that is out of control.
First off, regulation needs to be cut to a core of safety/quality standards. We need appropriate de-regulation(not to be confused with simply giving 100% control back to crooks).
Secondly we must have tort reform, 1/3 of doctors went on record as saying they will leave their practices the minute this becomes law.
Third, yes there does need to be insurance reform, better ideas than this bill were shot down, and that is unfortunate, as an agent I will tell you that the things in this bill will drive costs up.
Finally, the AMA needs to lose a lot of influence in legislative matters, don't know if you are a member or not, but they have historically advocated some positions that limited our number of physicians and specialists over the years, healthcare is not a natural market and we are seeing the effects of the controlled market not on it's best behavior.