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Health Care Bill has passed

it's NOT 73% unpopular

no, it's only FIFTY SIX % down in EVERY POLL conducted in the last week

LOL!

now there's a MIGHTY justification for completely redrawing ONE SIXTH of the united states economy

along purely partisan, extremist and bribe-strewn lines

decent discussion, indeed

LOL!

Glenn Beck, is that you?
The 56% includes the 13% that don't think it's liberal enough.
 
Our next shot will come in November. Hopefully, as the GOP retakes Congress, they will dismantle this monstrosity.

We'll do it!

Hey, my daugher and son-in-law and 3 grand children live near you (He builds effects pedals for guitars)!

Love your avitar. "Well, do ya punk?" "I gots ta know." Click.
 
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LOL!

tell it to the kid making 40G whom obama just DEEMED illegal cuz he's not buying kaiser at $500 a month

in times like these

Who?......
 
LOL!

tell it to the kid making 40G whom obama just DEEMED illegal cuz he's not buying kaiser at $500 a month

in times like these

This is why it's impossible to take you seriously. "in times like these..." Do you know when that provision goes into effect?
 
march 17, fox: 35-55 opposed

march 20, rasmussen (most accurate pollster in the nation according to fordham study): 41-54 opposed

march 21, cnn: 39-59 opposed

that's one week

55 plus 54 plus 59, all divided by 3, equals exactly 56
 
Stupid how? We end up paying for the uninsured anyway. This bill will save billions by keeping them out of emergency rooms and practicing preventative medicine. You people just keep embarrassing yourselves by repeating the dumbest things.

About 40% of all ER visits are those that are on Medicare, your theory is unsupportable.

Preventative medicine is only cheaper on an individual level but not on a group level.


Do your homework.
 
march 17, fox: 35-55 opposed

march 20, rasmussen (most accurate pollster in the nation according to fordham study): 41-54 opposed

march 21, cnn: 39-59 opposed

that's one week

55 plus 54 plus 59, all divided by 3, equals exactly 56

Just quit man, it doesn't matter how many support/oppose it.
What matters is whether or not it's a good idea.
 
After the rational voting public sorts through the lies and exaggerations of the GOP, the democrats will come out smelling like a rose and probably end up winning more seats come November.
The republicans should have come up with their own bill when they had total control. Now they just look like a bunch of crybabies.
 
march 17, fox: 35-55 opposed

march 20, rasmussen (most accurate pollster in the nation according to fordham study): 41-54 opposed

march 21, cnn: 39-59 opposed

that's one week

55 plus 54 plus 59, all divided by 3, equals exactly 56

And somehow you forgot a few polls.

PublicPolicyPolling 49 against, 45 for

Gallop 48 to 45

AP 43 to 41

Can't imagine why you skipped those polls, when I linked to RealClearPolitics that had the poll averages. Oh wait, I know, it's because those did not support what you wanted people to think.
 
About 40% of all ER visits are those that are on Medicare, your theory is unsupportable.

Preventative medicine is only cheaper on an individual level but not on a group level.


Do your homework.

You are just plain wrong. In big city hospitals the ERs are flooded with people that do not have insurance. And preventative medicine is overwhelmingly cheaper at every level. You might want to do your homework instead of copying off your neighbors paper.
 
well...

LOL!

i would THINK that anyone who wants to be taken, err, umm, hrmph, seriously would need to address some of the planetary sized problems president pie-in-the-face has pushed down our windpipes

how are you gonna pay for more than half of this by rooting out wfa?

LOL!

that's absurd!

how are you gonna expand medicare and medicaid, already facing more than THIRTY TRILLION DOLLARS of UNFUNDED LIABILITY, by adding 31 million more miserable schmucks to them all while at the same time cutting their funding by HALF A TRILLION dollars?

at times like these

medicare starts bleeding red in 2017 (want the link?)

how is johnny gonna come up with all this money to buy blue cross, his HOUSE is already completely underwater?

at times like these

when you take all that cash from poor johnboy, what's that gonna do to CONSUMER SPENDING?

the poor kid's already on 100% top ramen

or haven't you talked to him lately

times is BAD, really really BAD

at times like these

i would think decent discussers would need to ADDRESS some of these rather raunchy realities

or not

no skin off my teeth

barbara boxer's seat is MINE
 
Just quit man, it doesn't matter how many support/oppose it.
What matters is whether or not it's a good idea.
Exactly. The car is speeding off a cliff, there are three options:
1) Take foot off of pedal and hit brakes
2) Do nothing, let things run their course
3) Read a book.
If 20% want to do nothing, 20% want to hit the brakes, and 60% want to read a book, anything short of hitting the brakes is still a stupid idea. I don't know where all of this appeal to majority has been coming from lately, but.......ah nvm.
 
You are just plain wrong. In big city hospitals the ERs are flooded with people that do not have insurance. And preventative medicine is overwhelmingly cheaper at every level. You might want to do your homework instead of copying off your neighbors paper.

Actually he is right. It sounds wrong, and I was shocked when I found it out, but preventative medicine is not a money saver.
 
well...

LOL!

i would THINK that anyone who wants to be taken, err, umm, hrmph, seriously...

I only made it that far and the irony overwhelmed me.
 
It's a crying shame that our "elected representatives" would go against the will of the people and pass this load of crap. This is one more nail in the coffin of the United States of America. This is socialism, plain and simple. Our government is destroying this country from the inside out. This will devastate our economy and put even more people out of work, not to mention what this will add to our outrageous and out of control deficit. Let's hope this gets shot down on Constitutional grounds and soon.

Yes we can, yes we will, yes we did. I am proud to be an american today.:mrgreen:
 
You are just plain wrong. In big city hospitals the ERs are flooded with people that do not have insurance. And preventative medicine is overwhelmingly cheaper at every level. You might want to do your homework instead of copying off your neighbors paper.

"FRIDAY, July 31 (HealthDay News) -- An estimated 50 million, or 42 percent, of the 120 million visits made in 2006 to U.S. hospital emergency departments were billed to the Medicaid and Medicare programs, according to a U.S. government report released Thursday.

Uninsured patients accounted for nearly 18 percent of emergency department visits nationally, 34 percent were billed to private insurance, and 6 percent were billed to worker's compensation, military health plan administrator Tricare, and other payers, according to the latest News and Numbers from the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality."

ER Visits Mostly by Medicare, Medicaid Recipients
 
And somehow you forgot a few polls.

PublicPolicyPolling 49 against, 45 for

Gallop 48 to 45

AP 43 to 41

Can't imagine why you skipped those polls, when I linked to RealClearPolitics that had the poll averages. Oh wait, I know, it's because those did not support what you wanted people to think.

Are you trying to say that we should be a democracy and not a republic?
 
I don't have a link yet. It just happened. Will provide a link as soon as one is available.

The next bill to be voted on is the Reconciliation bill.

EDIT: Link is here.

The way I see it, Republicans should not have gone down the road of misrepresentations and attacks. IMHO, this is what killed their attempts to stop this bill, which I agree is bad. Also, IMHO, the Tea Partiers are an albatross around the neck of the GOP, and tonight's vote is proof of that.

Will post the results of the Reconciliation vote in this thread, just as soon as they come in.

It is the Democrats who have been misrepresenting this bill. The Republicans know more about what's in it than many of the Democrats (who won't tell you anyway, even if they did know).

Remember Pelosi said, "We have to pass this bill so we can find out what's in it." Can you imagine anything more stupid? This is who they are.
 
HOW DO YOU EXPAND MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, ALREADY UNDERWATER, BY THIRTY ONE MIL AT THE SAME TIME YOU CUT THEM BY HALF A T?

anyone?

LOL!
 
tell it to martha coakley, creigh deeds and ex governor corzine

I don't care what they say.
You want to make a good point about why you support/oppose legislation, use facts.

I'm quite tired of the 40% support, 30% oppose and 30% want an enema.
It's tired, old and doesn't do anything to help people make good choices.
 
HOW COULD TED KENNEDY HAVE BEEN SO STUPID AS NOT TO ABLE TO FIND, IN ALL THOSE YEARS OF SEARCHING, THE SERENDIPITOUS HALF TRIL PRESIDENT PIEFACE FOUND UNDER THE LINCOLN BED ONE MORNING (july 22) LAST SUMMER?

LOL!
 
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