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Did they leave in the abortion funding?........
Yes, it is there in all its glory.
Did they leave in the abortion funding?........
Yes, it is there in all its glory.
See Gill's reply
Gill's reply is interesting, and I am doing some searching around on it, but it looks solid, but it does not change the fact that the link I provided earlier is not "opinion", it is based on assessment and math. The estimate part of both where probably based around different parameters, and Gill's requires that Mass. has the same rate of defensive medicine as other states and accounts for 2 % of health care spending(neither of which I am sure of), so it is feasible for both to be accurate in what they say.
It was the persons opinion based on narrow facts that didn't take into account ALL of the facts. :shrug:
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!:mrgreen:
Gill's reply is interesting, and I am doing some searching around on it, but it looks solid, but it does not change the fact that the link I provided earlier is not "opinion", it is based on assessment and math. The estimate part of both where probably based around different parameters, and Gill's requires that Mass. has the same rate of defensive medicine as other states and accounts for 2 % of health care spending(neither of which I am sure of), so it is feasible for both to be accurate in what they say.
That would make every single projection an opinion, no matter how factually based.
Yay...now I'm forced to have health insurance on penalty of the government fining me. The insurance companies thank you for your support of a bill which will to next to nothing to solve the problem but will increase their client base significantly. Record profits for insurance companies! Woot.
I've read other studies that claim 14% of each patient's bill is for malpractice insurance alone.
That's significant.
I'm an insurance agent in L&H sales and am completely against this bill, even though it could initially bring me 100%+ increases in business, that should tell the supporters everything they need to know.Yay...now I'm forced to have health insurance on penalty of the government fining me. The insurance companies thank you for your support of a bill which will to next to nothing to solve the problem but will increase their client base significantly. Record profits for insurance companies! Woot.
That is not supported by the CBO numbers. I have heard that claim before, but have never seen it credibly sourced.
Tangible and Unseen Health-Care Costs - WSJ.comAt the University of Miami School of Medicine's patient practice, 14 cents out of every dollar collected in fees for services to patients goes toward buying medical malpractice insurance, says William Donelan, the university's vice president for medical administration. That figure doesn't include costs of defensive medicine, which are difficult to quantify, he says. "Our system is really irrational and out of control," he says.
Based on the cost of malpractice insurance at the University of Miami School of Medicine:
Tangible and Unseen Health-Care Costs - WSJ.com
And... if you think unemployment is bad now, just wait until the massive new tax increases on small businesses take effect.
Based on the cost of malpractice insurance at the University of Miami School of Medicine:
Tangible and Unseen Health-Care Costs - WSJ.com
Calculating how much defensive medicine actually costs is extremely difficult, because medical professionals often have many motivations for ordering tests and other procedures. The U.S. spends a higher percentage of its gross domestic product on health care than any other nation in the industrialized world. Legal expenses contribute to the bill.
According to Texans for Lawsuit Reform, a lobbying group that supports the caps, medical-liability-insurance rates have declined an average of 21% in the state since the law change, with almost a quarter of doctors seeing a 50% decrease.
Yay...now I'm forced to have health insurance on penalty of the government fining me. The insurance companies thank you for your support of a bill which will to next to nothing to solve the problem but will increase their client base significantly. Record profits for insurance companies! Woot.
Yay...now I'm forced to have health insurance on penalty of the government fining me. The insurance companies thank you for your support of a bill which will to next to nothing to solve the problem but will increase their client base significantly. Record profits for insurance companies! Woot.
If you can afford health insurance, why not have it? Why complain as if you do not have it, now forced with penalty? If you can afford health insurance, you should all ready have it, therefore you are not in need of the main aspect for this historic health care bill. -Makes sense huh?
How is that unfair OR un American? It's unfair that a business can choose whether or not to do business with you?The bill was mainly for those Americans that cannot afford it or have been denied coverage due to preexisting health issues which is unfair and un-American.
So in further analysis of this bill, it appears it does the exact opposite of what's needed to actually help reform healthcare and bring costs down.
Instead of moving us away from employer based insurance, it actually REQUIRES it.
Instead of moving us away from massive insurance industries altogether, (the ones the bill supporters kept claiming over and over again were "evil"), it actually FORCES everyone to buy one of those evil policies from the devils themselves.
Instead of making the government LESS involved, it makes it MORE involved.
Instead of fixing Medicaid, it just dumps millions more recipients into an already failing system full of fraud and financial black holes.
It does nothing to address Tort reform.
Wow. Nicely done. Do everything you can to make the situation WORSE and then claim you're only doing it to "help" us. :rofl
I'm just absolutely baffled how anyone with a brain can think any of this is a good thing for anyone.
How un-American of you! I bet you're a bigot and a racist, too. Please report to the nearest government reeducation center at once.No, it doesn't. Many people who do not have insurance CAN afford it. They CHOOSE not to. (like myself)
Hell yes. I'd love it if I could get the Federal government to pass a law requiring everyone to buy from my business.There was a reason the ins co's support this. :roll:
I would say MOST that oppose the Bill understand completely as well they have a basic grasp of the Constitution...
Those that favored it... NEITHER!:doh