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Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

You cannot argue with those numbers unless you are pro crime...:doh

I don't agree with your opinion. I posted because the papers came out with the numbers from MCSO's sweep. Since the news didn't cover it, wonder how many were arrested by the other police departments in Maricopa county during the same time frame? Also the stats don't include other MCSO arrests. The article only repored the "sweep".

By the way, I am not pro crime. I'll take your jab, its not much.:)
 
Could it be, it was a perfectly normal day, and they just did a press conference to make it seem special?

Could be but I highly doubt they would just hold a press conference for simply doing their jobs.

The most efficient crime sweep I ever saw was in Anchorage Alaska. In one day, they arrested over 150 people who had warrants of various types. They did it by luring them to a specified spot telling them they had won some kind of prize. When they showed up, they served the warrant and arrested them. I thought it was pretty funny.
 
Could be but I highly doubt they would just hold a press conference for simply doing their jobs.

The most efficient crime sweep I ever saw was in Anchorage Alaska. In one day, they arrested over 150 people who had warrants of various types. They did it by luring them to a specified spot telling them they had won some kind of prize. When they showed up, they served the warrant and arrested them. I thought it was pretty funny.
I wonder if there is a law in some place that prevents such procedures?
 
I wonder if there is a law in some place that prevents such procedures?

Its not entrapment, because they already had a warrant to arrest them for crimes already committed. It was simply an easy way to bring them all into custody without the hassle of tracking them all down individually.
 
Could be but I highly doubt they would just hold a press conference for simply doing their jobs.

The most efficient crime sweep I ever saw was in Anchorage Alaska. In one day, they arrested over 150 people who had warrants of various types. They did it by luring them to a specified spot telling them they had won some kind of prize. When they showed up, they served the warrant and arrested them. I thought it was pretty funny.

I think it would be funny if they offered illegal immigrants a free cruise.....;)
& they showed up.....:lol:
 
I wonder if there is a law in some place that prevents such procedures?

I don't think so because of the fact that they already had warrants for their arrest. Plus, the police are allowed to use deceit to obtain confessions plus they are permitted under cover operations. Don't quote me on this, but I think the only thing they have to divulge is that they are associated with law enforcement and even then it's only if they are asked.
 
He need to wear pink PJ's and have a Teddy Bear gun holster. The man is a nutcase.
 
There are crime sweeps with varying degrees of success held in Cities across the Nation they would be needed less if Cities like San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Francisco were not run and controlled by City Councils and Mayors who violate the law and their oath of office by presiding over sanctuary Cities that serve no good purpose and only invite crime.

The Mexican Drug Cartels have partnered up with local gangs and even national gangs and threaten the peace not only alone the Border but in every town in America, and the attitude that illegals are just here to work and make a better life is one really stupid ignorant thing to say.

Drug dealers can say the very same thing.

We are Nation of laws and those like Janet Napolitano and Obama and others who don't want the laws enforced because they claim some BS about tolerance are part of the problem and are in violation of their oath of office.

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.
 
Arpaio is a disgrace to law enforcement and its pathetic how he can get away with incredible corruption just by pandering against illegal immigrants. He has cost the county incredible amounts of money from illegal treatment at his jail and uses police powers to harass those who criticize him. His "street sweeps" are a grave insult to the constitution. I understand folks wanting to the police do something about illegal immigration, but that doesn't excuse justifying his unacceptable behavior. You can easily enforce the law without breaking it in the process.

Let me see if I can help you learn to think a bit more rationally.

The Good Sheriff is despised and feared by those with a poor understanding of national sovereignty and the rule of law. Many of those persons represent powerful and well funded subversive groups, such as the American Civil Liberties Union.

The brighter students already will have already understood my point, but for the benefit of the rest of the class, I will continue.

None of these groups or individuals has been able to gain a serious injunction or prosecution of the Sheriff, despite decades of futile attempts. Rationality compels us to conclude that this must be due to the obvious fact that he operates within the confines of the law.

You see?
 
None of these groups or individuals has been able to gain a serious injunction or prosecution of the Sheriff, despite decades of futile attempts. Rationality compels us to conclude that this must be due to the obvious fact that he operates within the confines of the law.

Why don't you cite all these "futile attempts to prosecute" the Sheriff? As far as I know, this is the first time he has been formally investigated by the federal government in criminal cases. Furthermore, he certainly has lost numerous civil cases and cost the county quite a bit of money through his actions. He also was just sanctioned by a judge for destroying evidence in relation to one of his sweeps.
 
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Why don't you cite all these "futile attempts to prosecute" the Sheriff? As far as I know, this is the first time he has been formally investigated by the federal government in criminal cases. Furthermore, he certainly has lost numerous civil cases and cost the county quite a bit of money through his actions. He also was just sanctioned by a judge for destroying evidence in relation to one of his sweeps.

Oh well let's not let facts get in the way of a "Go Joe!" circle jerk. How dare you undermine their little hero? Who's gonna "get dem damned spics that tookourjobs if you discredit Sheriff Joe?

:lol::lol::lol:
 
Oh well let's not let facts get in the way of a "Go Joe!" circle jerk. How dare you undermine their little hero? Who's gonna "get dem damned spics that tookourjobs if you discredit Sheriff Joe?

:lol::lol::lol:

Another vote against upholding the law, what a shock!.........:doh
 
There are crime sweeps with varying degrees of success held in Cities across the Nation they would be needed less if Cities like San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Francisco were not run and controlled by City Councils and Mayors who violate the law and their oath of office by presiding over sanctuary Cities that serve no good purpose and only invite crime.

Generally speaking, crime sweeps are the least effective form of enforcement that require the most man-hours of police time. They alienate the local community upon whose goodwill the officers depend. They increase the likelihood that innocent people will be swept up and mistreated.

I'm a pro law & order girl, but some police strategies work better than others. What works the best is to focus your time, energy, and resources on the individuals who are most likely to commit crimes in the area. Only a small percentage of residents in a local area are likely to commit serious crimes. Sweeps disburse resources that could be targeted in on violent offenders.

One of the ways you can measure the effectiveness of a particular police department is through cleared case rates. Arpaio has one of the lowest clearance rates in the U.S. What that means is that the people who have actually committed car thefts, burglaries, and the like, and who often specialize in those kinds of crimes, are getting away with their misdeeds. I'd far rather live in a city with solid crime clearance rates and zero sweeps. The crime rate will be lower.

Building solid investigative cases against criminals, and sending them to prison for appropriate lengths of confinement is actually the best use of officer man-hours, in my experience.

The Mexican Drug Cartels have partnered up with local gangs and even national gangs and threaten the peace not only alone the Border but in every town in America, and the attitude that illegals are just here to work and make a better life is one really stupid ignorant thing to say.

IN my experience, there are two groups of illegal immigrants: those who are here to work, and those who are here to commit crimes. Those who are here to commit crimes should be arrested and incarcerated. Those who are here to work should be deported.

We are Nation of laws and those like Janet Napolitano and Obama and others who don't want the laws enforced because they claim some BS about tolerance are part of the problem and are in violation of their oath of office.

In his zeal to do their jobs, Joe Arpaio is abdicating his elected responsibilities.

Here's a rule of thumb I've always found handy when it comes to these sorts of things....make sure your own house is clean before you start worrying about the dust under someone else's bed. In Joe Arpaio's case, his own house is damned dirty.
 
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He need to wear pink PJ's and have a Teddy Bear gun holster. The man is a nutcase.

I think the only nutcases are the ones that take every opportunity to castigate those who are legally effective in carrying out the law and maintaining criminals in proper perspective.

It is people with this attitude that have allowed incarcerated criminals a life of luxury at their victims expense.
 
Another vote against upholding the law, what a shock!.........:doh

No, what's shocking is your inability to comprehend the points being made here and your penchant for attributing false arguments to others.

Actually, no...it's not shocking at all.
 
No doubt Sheriff Joes does what he does because the state and federal govts won't do their jobs.
 
No, what's shocking is your inability to comprehend the points being made here and your penchant for attributing false arguments to others.

Actually, no...it's not shocking at all.

I comprende just fine, I just disagree with said points......;)
I do not subscribe to the notion that a particular method of apprehending criminals be thrown away because it is deemed cost ineffective by a bunch of bleeding heart liberals......
Once again, 5 pounds of meth & 50+ illegals in the slammer, is worth every penny......;)
With regard to:
They alienate the local community upon whose goodwill the officers depend. They increase the likelihood that innocent people will be swept up and mistreated.
I say hogwash.....
The local community should be pleased that this scum was locked up, regardless of the method employed......;)
 
....The local community should be pleased that this scum was locked up, regardless of the method employed......;)

...and they are. That's why ol' Joe was reelected by a double digit margin, in 2008.

The only dissenters are Liberals and the 'independants' and centrists who are for the most part, liberals in denial!
 
...and they are. That's why ol' Joe was reelected by a double digit margin, in 2008.
The only dissenters are Liberals and the 'independants' and centrists who are for the most part, liberals in denial!

Funny how the Libs can't seem to explain that little tid bit away.....;)
 
Funny how the Libs can't seem to explain that little tid bit away.....;)

You'd think with Joe making the prisoners wear pink underwear, the Libs would really jump on board with him??
 
Police are NOT there to protect you, ONLY to punish you. The only way to protect yourself is with a weapon and a lawyer.





I really could care less what people from the OTHER SIDE OF THE ****ING COUNTRY think of me. The only people I have to get respect from is my family and my bosses thats it.
What an attitude!
As a boy , then a young man, I used to think the same way.
I've since,more or less, grown up.
The police are not perfect, they are human.
 
No doubt Sheriff Joes does what he does because the state and federal govts won't do their jobs.

Because the feds, all the way back, refused to deal with the border.
 
Rounding up illegal aliens in street sweeps is not the answer. It's like chasing down drug users. You have to treat the source of the problem. Establishing and enforcing tough employment laws. Dry up the reason they come here. Starting fining companies that violate the rules. Implement stronger identification verification methods using biometrics.

I do not believe this man is a good example of a Sheriff. "Tough on crime" is a misleading thing. But I guess people enjoy watching their tax dollars go poof due to litigation.
 
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