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Arizona sheriff launches immigration sweep

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America's Sheriff and the best example of a HERO lawman who follows the law and doesn't bow to the wacko left ever is out doing his job even in the face of opposition from Arizona's Governor to the White House.

I included an additional story to support Sheriff Joe's actions & position.

When Sheriff Joe comes under attack again from Janet Napolitano as she did repeatedly when she was AZ Gov. and now has added pressure from the Justice Department of Obama to let the violence just happen He is right and they are dead wrong.

The violence along the border spreads to all bored cities and much farther inland.

San Diego America's Finest City is a sanctuary City and almost nothing is done to stop any of the drug or other criminal activities that spill over, and San Diego is only one. San Francisco is so bad they that if the police pull over a car driven by an illegal, with no licensee or insurance for a traffic violation they just basically let them go.

San Diego has some hope because a man backed by and in the Mold Sheriff Joe, named JAY LA SUER is running and will apply the rule of law, Janet Napolitano and the entire Obama Justice Department won't enforce.

From National Terror Alert
Kidnapping Capital of the U.S.A. – Phoenix Arizona : Homeland Security News

Phoenix, Arizona has become the kidnapping capital of America, with more incidents than any other city in the world outside of Mexico City and over 370 cases last year alone. But local authorities say Washington, DC is too obsessed with al Qaeda terrorists to care about what is happening in their own backyard right now.

“We’re in the eye of the storm,” Phoenix Police Chief Andy Anderson told ABC News of the violent crimes and ruthless tactics spurred by Mexico’s drug cartels that have expanded business across the border.
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washingtonpost.com
By JACQUES BILLEAUD
The Associated Press
Thursday, March 18, 2010; 8:16 PM

PHOENIX -- The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office in Arizona has launched a two-day, countywide crime and immigration sweep that authorities say will focus on drop houses, drug violators and human smuggling vehicles.

Four hundred deputies and volunteer posse members are taking part in the patrols. The sweep, which began Thursday, is Sheriff Joe Arpaio's 14th since early 2008.

During the sweeps, deputies flood an area of a city - in some cases heavily Latino areas - to seek out traffic violators and arrest other alleged lawbreakers.

Critics say Arpaio's deputies have racially profiled Hispanics. The sheriff says deputies approach people only when they have probable cause to believe people have committed crimes.
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Those who stand for nothing fall for anything
 
Sheriff Joe has the right idea. It's sad that other law enforcement orgs have to, or choose to, put politics and/or finances, above law enforcement.
 
If more people understood the power their Sheriff holds, there would be a lot more in office that would stand up for the Constitutions they are sworn to uphold.

The Sheriff has the most power held by a single person in the county (and I guess Parrish) in which they preside... few exercise it though.

America needs more like Sheriff Joe! Ones that are willing to enforce the law of the land regardless of pressure from progressive vote whores in DC.
 
As long as Sheriff Joe Arpaio gets the job done he will probably keep getting elected until the day he is too old to be sheriff and that pisses off a lot of pro-illegals and other criminal sympathizers.
 
Arpaio is a disgrace to law enforcement and its pathetic how he can get away with incredible corruption just by pandering against illegal immigrants. He has cost the county incredible amounts of money from illegal treatment at his jail and uses police powers to harass those who criticize him. His "street sweeps" are a grave insult to the constitution. I understand folks wanting to the police do something about illegal immigration, but that doesn't excuse justifying his unacceptable behavior. You can easily enforce the law without breaking it in the process.
 
rathi said:
Arpaio is a disgrace to law enforcement and its pathetic how he can get away with incredible corruption just by pandering against illegal immigrants. He has cost the county incredible amounts of money from illegal treatment at his jail and uses police powers to harass those who criticize him. His "street sweeps" are a grave insult to the constitution. I understand folks wanting to the police do something about illegal immigration, but that doesn't excuse justifying his unacceptable behavior. You can easily enforce the law without breaking it in the process.
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Care to explain how in any detail any of the above?

How are these actions a grave insult?

What illegal treatment?

You make serious charges, have anything to back it up or is this just the talking points you were told to say from a website?

Go Sherriff Joe!
 
rathi said:
Arpaio is a disgrace to law enforcement and its pathetic how he can get away with incredible corruption just by pandering against illegal immigrants. He has cost the county incredible amounts of money from illegal treatment at his jail and uses police powers to harass those who criticize him. His "street sweeps" are a grave insult to the constitution. I understand folks wanting to the police do something about illegal immigration, but that doesn't excuse justifying his unacceptable behavior. You can easily enforce the law without breaking it in the process.
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The Government Street Gangs are scum in general, no need to go after Apario specifically but in this case the scum are actually doing something good for once. Illegal aliens have to go, they are a slap in the face to legal immigrants, there has to be a clause in the Constitution that if the Federal Government fails to fullfill its role that the States have legal right to step in.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
The Government Street Gangs are scum in general, no need to go after Apario specifically but in this case the scum are actually doing something good for once. Illegal aliens have to go, they are a slap in the face to legal immigrants, there has to be a clause in the Constitution that if the Federal Government fails to fullfill its role that the States have legal right to step in.
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You sir, disgust me. I WORK for the PD, okay it's a college Campus PD, but the Police Officers are GASP real law enforcement, same training, same laws, carry guns blah blah blah. They are good hard working people.

You have a serious problem with police, and I think you need to go down to the local PD and meet some actual Police Officers, get to know em.. and you'll find their good people just follwoing the law and trying to do the best they can.

Really, everytime you insult police officers, you lose respect from people.
 
MrVicchio said:
You sir, disgust me. I WORK for the PD, okay it's a college Campus PD, but the Police Officers are GASP real law enforcement, same training, same laws, carry guns blah blah blah. They are good hard working people.

You have a serious problem with police, and I think you need to go down to the local PD and meet some actual Police Officers, get to know em.. and you'll find their good people just follwoing the law and trying to do the best they can.
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Police are NOT there to protect you, ONLY to punish you. The only way to protect yourself is with a weapon and a lawyer.


Really, everytime you insult police officers, you lose respect from people.
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I really could care less what people from the OTHER SIDE OF THE ****ING COUNTRY think of me. The only people I have to get respect from is my family and my bosses thats it.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Police are NOT there to protect you, ONLY to punish you. The only way to protect yourself is with a weapon and a lawyer.
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Far too much trust is placed upon our LEOs... how soon people forget Katrina!
 
rathi said:
Arpaio is a disgrace to law enforcement and its pathetic how he can get away with incredible corruption just by pandering against illegal immigrants. He has cost the county incredible amounts of money from illegal treatment at his jail and uses police powers to harass those who criticize him. His "street sweeps" are a grave insult to the constitution. I understand folks wanting to the police do something about illegal immigration, but that doesn't excuse justifying his unacceptable behavior. You can easily enforce the law without breaking it in the process.
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I find it highly amusing that people call this man a hero without knowing the full extent of the abuses that "Sheriff Joe" commits. While I agree wholeheartedly with a tough stance on immigration, I cannot agree with the measures Sheriff Joe takes. Abuses ranging from tent cities that, while probably acceptable for the violent offender who is in for life, are not acceptable for the kid that got busted with less than an ounce of pot in college...to plastering tattle tell numbers on county vehicles so people can call in and "report" their neighbors for being illegals.

This is not acceptable and, while it may appear on the surface to save money by putting criminals in tent cities, etc, it actually costs a huge amount of money to litigate the justified civil rights suits that come about because of these deviations from standard penal code practices. And this isn't even getting into all the investigation of his using the police force to harass and threaten journalists and other critics. There's nothing conservative about supporting Sheriff Joe. Nothing at all.
 
I can think of a lot of heroes in the criminal justice system. Ted Poe, a congressman from Texas, is one of mine. But Joe Arpaio isn't one of them. Joe belongs in some banana republic without a constitution since that's where his tactics come from.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
I can think of a lot of heroes in the criminal justice system. Ted Poe, a congressman from Texas, is one of mine. But Joe Arpaio isn't one of them. Joe belongs in some banana republic without a constitution since that's where his tactics come from.
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Really. What laws in the Constitution has he broken?

You hear this a lot but no one can actually point to any, just make the baseless charge.
 
texmaster said:
Really. What laws in the Constitution has he broken?

You hear this a lot but no one can actually point to any, just make the baseless charge.
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I would say he dances all over the eighth amendment with his tent cities. He also totally walks over the fourth amendment with his "report an illegal" tip hotlines. Further, he has blatantly curbed First Amendment rights with his use of the police force to harass journalists in the past when they criticized him.

It is so amusing to me how some who try to call themselves conservatives have this deranged notion that anything dickish, boorish, and obtuse automatically falls in line with conservative values without ever really analyzing the point of contention.

"Derrrr, Sheriff Joe makes prisoners wear pink underwear and rounds up illegals. I like being an asshole and so does he...that's means he's a conservative like me!!! Derrrrrrr."

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texmaster said:
Really. What laws in the Constitution has he broken?

You hear this a lot but no one can actually point to any, just make the baseless charge.
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This is probably the best summary, a report from the Goldwater Institute, a rabidly far left think tank.

http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/Common/Img/Mission Unaccomplished.pdf

Here's a good section:

Other jurisdictions, such as the Mesa Police Department, focus on violent crimes and determine immigration status after the suspects are booked into jail.40

Even for MCSO, that approach yields far more illegal immigrants: The Republic reports that MCSO jailers have identified 16,000 illegal immigrants during the booking process, compared to 2,000 who have been arrested by the human smuggling unit and only 200 or so who have been arrested in sweeps.41

But MCSO has diverted substantial resources away from other law-enforcement activities to the immigration sweeps and the human-smuggling unit.42 As Arpaio described it, “We are quickly becoming a full-fledged anti-illegal immigration agency.”43 The eight sweeps have involved hundreds of deputies and thousands of work days.44 Th e Tribune found that “MCSO has repeatedly used regular patrol deputies for immigration enforcement.”45 The human smuggling unit was staffed through “temporary” reassignments of deputies from patrol units, many of which were not replaced.

In addition to diverting patrol deputies from their normal assignments, the shift in focus resulted in massive overtime. Shortly after the ICE contract was signed, deputies amassed 4,500 extra hours per two-week pay period, compared to the previous average of 2,900 overtime hours. The predictable result was a $1.3 million deficit in MCSO’s budget in only three months. The sheriff covered part of the deficit by keeping patrol division positions unfilled, to the tune of 66 deputies. Meanwhile, the sheriff curtailed overtime. On at least one occasion, as many as 46 criminal defendants missed their court appearances because deputies were told to skip overtime.46

Likewise, immigration enforcement diminished. As the Tribune reports, MCSO “eliminated its deficit,” but “deputies now rarely arrest illegal immigrants under the state smuggling law, MCSO records show, even when suspects are clearly involved in human smuggling.”47

MCSO’s massive diversion of resources into policing illegal immigration—largely in communities such as Phoenix and Mesa that have police departments—coincides with growing rates of violent crimes, plummeting arrest rates, and increased response time to citizens’ calls for help.48 At the same time, the Republic found that crime rates in areas that were the subject of saturation raids were largely unchanged after the sweeps.49
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I will almost NEVER criticize law enforcement on this board, but Joe Arpaio is a disgrace. What he has done has endangered his officers and others, trampled over basic constitutional rights, racked up huge costs, and made his city more dangerous. He's a complete moron.
 
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Lets call Illegal immigrants what they really are Invaders, they cross the border without our permission and start street gangs that kill Americans. I say any illegals caught on gang related charges should be labelled enemy combatants and sent to Gitmo.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
How does one really answer a question like this? :roll:
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You could start by pointing out what laws and parts of the constitution you think he has violated, then back up what you think with facts. :roll:
 
OxymoronP said:
Lets call Illegal immigrants what they really are Invaders, they cross the border without our permission and start street gangs that kill Americans. I say any illegals caught on gang related charges should be labelled enemy combatants and sent to Gitmo.
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I can agree with that. But then it becomes a military matter and not one for "Sheriff Joe".

And in any event, plastering "tattle tell" numbers on county vehicles is not the way to go about it.
 
jallman said:
I can agree with that. But then it becomes a military matter and not one for "Sheriff Joe".

And in any event, plastering "tattle tell" numbers on county vehicles is not the way to go about it.
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Why?.. ever heard of Neighborhood Watch? Crime Stoppers?..... you know, "Take a bite out of crime".

Or do you not think entering our country illegally a crime?
 
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Crunch said:
Why?.. ever heard of Neighborhood Watch? Crime Stoppers?..... you know, "Take a bite out of crime".
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You are talking about two completely different forms of citizen involvement in assisting crime prevention.

Neighborhood Watches look for crime actively taking place in plain view like break-ins, shots fired, etc. Crime Stoppers is a response to the authorities posting information that has already been gathered and asking for information as to the whereabouts of specific persons of interest.

They are in no way comparable to a hotline that asks the public to call and tell the authorities that your neighbors, who you just happen to not get along with, are illegals, and thereby give the authorities that "probable cause" they need to perform search and seizure against what may or may not be a legal citizen. It in no way compares to a hotline that asks you to call in and report that mexican restaurant that wouldn't comp your meal for hiring illegal workers whether you know they do or not.

It's not the same.

Or do you not think entering our country illegally a crime?
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I've already stated that I do if you had cared to read the entire thread before asking such a stupid question.
 
As of date, no lawsuit or judge has shut down tent city. If the Feds would do their job, then local law enforcement would not have to. Yes, there is an investigation going on, but the Grand Jury has yet to bring charges. Thought people were innocent till proven guilty.

How many who are critical of Sheriff Joe live in Maricopa County, AZ? While you can debate rather his actions are legal or not, till you live in the county and experience first hand the politics and the illegal problem it carries little meaning with me. By the way I live in Maricopa County, AZ. I support Sheriff Joe. At least you know where he stands. Not like some of the county supervisors or other elected officials that waffle all the time.
 
So, as a resident of Maricopa County, how does it make you feel to learn that crime has gone up and sheriff's deputies response times also increased on Sheriff Joe's watch, while the costs for his office have also increased?

In other words, you're getting less crime bang for your buck.

Hey, if y'all want to spend more for less, who am I to judge? Liberals in hollywood do it all the time. ^.^
 
Catz Part Deux said:
So, as a resident of Maricopa County, how does it make you feel to learn that crime has gone up and sheriff's deputies response times also increased on Sheriff Joe's watch, while the costs for his office have also increased?

In other words, you're getting less crime bang for your buck.

Hey, if y'all want to spend more for less, who am I to judge? Liberals in hollywood do it all the time. ^.^
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Crime rates have been steadily climbing all along the border states, or does that fact screw up your attempt to attack Sherrif Joe?
 
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