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Proof positive of the need to pass a test in order to do so...Oh I vote, sweetness, I vote
Just let that sink in for a few minutes.
Proof positive of the need to pass a test in order to do so...Oh I vote, sweetness, I vote
Just let that sink in for a few minutes.
Wow...its pretty easy to see when an idealogue is getting his ass kicked in a debate...he turns to Rush Limbaugh.
YOU...the person that cant be bothered to READ what you support...and get spoon fed your garbage...accusing ANYONE of talking point rhetoric...priceless baby...absolutely priceless.
So to recap...
YOU have NO IDEA what is in the legislation...you have NO IDEA what it costs. You have NO IDEA how the federal government is supposed to run it better than the medicare system which they admit is being abused to the tune of at LEAST 80 billion a year...and yet...you support the legislation...
If I called you an idiot that would be perceived as a personal attack...and an insult to idiots to boot...so I absolutely WILL NOT call you an idiot. I dont have to. Your own words expose you every time you post here.
Keep lying, it doesn't surprise me.
Ok, thanks for letting me know about this Rush Limbaugh rule. It's hard to keep track when the righties keep moving those goal posts.
I could care less what you think after reading all of your posts. After everything you resort to personal attacks that I have no idea what's in the bill (even though this bill will only have minor changes and will consist 99% of all of the things that have been talked to death for the past year) and that I don't know what it will cost (even though I don't know how you got this. The CBO has scored the main bill already and is currently scoring the rest as we speak, and I haven't heard anyone say that the cost will differ significantly from the original assessment) and then you finalize it with the point that we should allow insurance companies to not cover based on preexisting conditions and to kick people off their roles as soon as they get sick, and to continue to use every loophole they can find to screw people over, all because there is a certain amount of fraud in medicare. You think that maybe neither of us are idiots and we just disagree on the bill?
Also, don't sidestep. I have no idea how you've convinced yourself that you're morally superior because you won't use personal attacks then attack me by saying that calling me an idiot is an insult to idiots. It doesn't surprise me that you would think this is not the same thing.
Just to recap, every single thing you said in your post was a lie or wrong.
:2wave:
So to recap - your post basically says, "I am rubber you are glue, whatever hits me bounces off and sticks to you". That makes for some mature discussion (/sarcasm)
:roll:
How very democratic of youProof positive of the need to pass a test in order to do so...
Keep lying, it doesn't surprise me.
Ok, thanks for letting me know about this Rush Limbaugh rule. It's hard to keep track when the righties keep moving those goal posts.
I could care less what you think after reading all of your posts. After everything you resort to personal attacks that I have no idea what's in the bill (even though this bill will only have minor changes and will consist 99% of all of the things that have been talked to death for the past year) and that I don't know what it will cost (even though I don't know how you got this. The CBO has scored the main bill already and is currently scoring the rest as we speak, and I haven't heard anyone say that the cost will differ significantly from the original assessment) and then you finalize it with the point that we should allow insurance companies to not cover based on preexisting conditions and to kick people off their roles as soon as they get sick, and to continue to use every loophole they can find to screw people over, all because there is a certain amount of fraud in medicare. You think that maybe neither of us are idiots and we just disagree on the bill?
Also, don't sidestep. I have no idea how you've convinced yourself that you're morally superior because you won't use personal attacks then attack me by saying that calling me an idiot is an insult to idiots. It doesn't surprise me that you would think this is not the same thing.
Just to recap, every single thing you said in your post was a lie or wrong.
:2wave:
Ok, thanks for letting me know about this Rush Limbaugh rule. It's hard to keep track when the righties keep moving those goal posts.
And be very clear. I didnt CALL you an idiot. That would be wrong. no personal attacks.
Wow...its pretty easy to see when an idealogue is getting his ass kicked in a debate...he turns to Rush Limbaugh.
YOU...the person that cant be bothered to READ what you support...and get spoon fed your garbage...accusing ANYONE of talking point rhetoric...priceless baby...absolutely priceless.
So to recap...
YOU have NO IDEA what is in the legislation...you have NO IDEA what it costs. You have NO IDEA how the federal government is supposed to run it better than the medicare system which they admit is being abused to the tune of at LEAST 80 billion a year...and yet...you support the legislation...
If I called you an idiot that would be perceived as a personal attack...and an insult to idiots to boot...so I absolutely WILL NOT call you an idiot. I dont have to. Your own words expose you every time you post here.
You support Pelosi's actions, and you want to talk about "righties keep moving the goalposts"?
LOL. Wow.
Game. Set. Match.
Beautiful. How very dishonest of you.
Would you consider it as an insult if I were to come in here and say to a member "I'm not saying you're mother's a whore, I'm just saying she sleeps with men for money."
I'm just leaving it at that. Have fun.
In addition to what Prof has indicated is in this bill, here is a bit more.....
• Federal funding for abortion;
• A half trillion dollars in cuts to Medicare services that do not fix the programs' long-term structural budgetary problems;
• A half trillion dollars in new taxes that will be passed on to the consumers of health insurance and everyday medical devices;
• The "Louisiana Purchase" and other special deals used to bribe senators to vote for the bill.
• 159 new government boards, bureaucracies, and programs that will further depress a health system already mired in bureaucracy.
I especialy like that last one... 159 new bureaucracies to get between you and your doctor. But wait, all may not be lost....... seems like 1/3 of doctors polled will quit or retire early if this POS passes, so you don't have to worry... you probably wouldn't be able to find a doctor anyway.
The Medicus Firm
In addition to what Prof has indicated is in this bill, here is a bit more.....
• Federal funding for abortion;
• A half trillion dollars in cuts to Medicare services that do not fix the programs' long-term structural budgetary problems;
• A half trillion dollars in new taxes that will be passed on to the consumers of health insurance and everyday medical devices;
• The "Louisiana Purchase" and other special deals used to bribe senators to vote for the bill.
• 159 new government boards, bureaucracies, and programs that will further depress a health system already mired in bureaucracy.
I especialy like that last one... 159 new bureaucracies to get between you and your doctor. But wait, all may not be lost....... seems like 1/3 of doctors polled will quit or retire early if this POS passes, so you don't have to worry... you probably wouldn't be able to find a doctor anyway.
The Medicus Firm
I'm studying to become a doctor. If this passes, I might reconsider my career choice. Perhaps something in biotechnology...
I'm studying to become a doctor. If this passes, I might reconsider my career choice. Perhaps something in biotechnology...
Dont...just add administration and business management. You will more than make up for it.
Right now 2 of the county facilities that offer medicare/medicaid services locally pay their clinical staff next to nothing. The 2 primary business owners get paid high 6 figures. They never even go to the facility...in fact i am not sure that either of them live in the state. The primary administrators...NOT licensed clinicians get paid much more than the clinical staff.
Dont worry...there is substantial money to be made with medicare/medicaid contracts. Just not for the actual providers.
Oh. good. as long as you don't vote, it's all cool.
A spokesman for Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli II (R) said this afternoon that Virginia will file suit against the federal government if the Democratic health care reform bill is approved by the U.S. Congress.
Cuccinelli has long said he was examining the legal issues and suggested he would likely file suit. Brian Gottstein, a spokesman for the office, said this afternoon that a lawsuit is now a definite. Gottstein would provide no details of the legal rationale for such a suit, indicating the process is "still being worked out."
Virginia last week became the first state in the country to pass a state bill declaring it illegal for the government to require individuals to purchase health insurance, a key part of bills under consideration on Capitol Hill. snip:
UPDATE: We've received a copy of Cuccinelli's letter to Pelosi. In it, he writes: "Should you employ the deem and pass tactic, you expose any act which may pass to yet another constitutional challenge."
The full letter is included after the jump.
Virginia Politics Blog - Cuccinelli's office confirms Virginia will sue over health care
Sounds like no ,mater what happens, if this passes in any way, Virginia will tie it up in court for years.
What a guy!!!!!..:applaud