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Lesbian sgt. discharged after police tell military

No offense to the sgt or all the sacrifices she has made for this country. But House Md. has created this false stereotype of ultra-hot lesbian/bisexuals that reality falls short of time and time again. It's really, quite depressing to men of my age group.
 
Areopagitican said:
No offense to the sgt or all the sacrifices she has made for this country. But House Md. has created this false stereotype of ultra-hot lesbian/bisexuals that reality falls short of time and time again. It's really, quite depressing to men of my age group.
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Sad, I House MD is my TV hero !!! He has a great attitude!!! He should replace Simon C on American idol !!!!!!!
 
When people say that DADT shouldn't be eliminated because of social issues it will create in the military, I like to point them to cases like this one, which are far more common than man-on-man rape in the military, or mere discomfort. It's either your discomfort, or their discharge for doing nothing if they get found out. How is that fair? A sergeant has her military career ruined because of a couple of hick cops with nothing better to do while on duty.

Damn shame.
 
Orion said:
When people say that DADT shouldn't be eliminated because of social issues it will create in the military, I like to point them to cases like this one, which are far more common than man-on-man rape in the military, or mere discomfort. It's either your discomfort, or their discharge for doing nothing if they get found out. How is that fair? A sergeant has her military career ruined because of a couple of hick cops with nothing better to do while on duty.

Damn shame.
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Yup, those cops forced her get married against her will against military regs.

Hey guess what, if the cops claimed to have seen a picture of the Sgt on the kitchen wall which revealed a racist tattoo on the Sgt, and it was true so the Sgt was discharged for that, it's still the Sgt's fault for getting the tattoo.
 
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The military just needs to man the **** up and repeal DADT already. "Ooh, it might bother the troops, they might be embarrassed to be in the shower, waahh."

If you're not tough enough to deal with that, why should I believe you're tough enough to be in the military at all? Pansies. Man up and just deal with itlike the rest of the civilized world.
 
Deuce said:
The military just needs to man the **** up and repeal DADT already. "Ooh, it might bother the troops, they might be embarrassed to be in the shower, waahh."

If you're not tough enough to deal with that, why should I believe you're tough enough to be in the military at all? Pansies. Man up and just deal with itlike the rest of the civilized world.
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Thanks for tossing the entire military in that pool :doh
 
Jerry said:
Yup, those cops forced her get married against her will against military regs.
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Since when do civilian authorities enforce military law? No one forced the cops to behave like ****ing assholes and invade this woman's privacy.

Same sex marriage is legal in Iowa. She wasn't breaking the law. Military law needs to be brought up to speed on civil law. It'll happen sooner or later.

Jerry said:
Hey guess what, if the cops claimed to have seen a picture of the Sgt on the kitchen wall which revealed a racist tattoo on the Sgt, and it was true so the Sgt was discharged for that, it's still the Sgt's fault for getting the tattoo.
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Hey guess what, I don't care. Being gay is not the same as being in the KKK.
 
Orion said:
Since when do civilian authorities enforce military law? No one forced the cops to behave like ****ing assholes and invade this woman's privacy.
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There is no privacy in the military.

Orion said:
Same sex marriage is legal in Iowa. She wasn't breaking the law.
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No one ever claimed she broke Iowa State law.

She broke UCMJ.

Orion said:
Military law needs to be brought up to speed on civil law. It'll happen sooner or later.
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Military =/= civilian, their not comparable.

Orion said:
Hey guess what, I don't care. Being gay is not the same as being in the KKK
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Getting married and taking a tattoo are both choices, both perfectly under the control of the individual.

I strongly support gays serving openly in the military and oppose DADT, but she did this to herself.

I hope she has the opportunity to get back in once the rule changes.
 
Redress said:
Not arguing that point at all. The police where assholes at the very least, hopefully what they did was illegal so they can get slammed for it. My point was simply that once they had done that, the military acted perfectly within the rules to discharge her...in fact, it was what they are supposed to do, and some ones 9 year career ruined.
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Oh. Yeah, that is true.

The police will likely settle with the woman in question before a jury trial can happen. The lawyers representing the police are going to know that if this matter gets before a jury that the police and the city are going to get neutered.
 
Jerry said:
Yup, those cops forced her get married against her will against military regs.

Hey guess what, if the cops claimed to have seen a picture of the Sgt on the kitchen wall which revealed a racist tattoo on the Sgt, and it was true so the Sgt was discharged for that, it's still the Sgt's fault for getting the tattoo.
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The police where not there for the Sgt.; therefore, her marriage was none of their damn business. The police were wrong and their mistake needs to end some careers and cost the Rapid City and the RCPD a whole lot of money.
 
Jerry said:
I strongly support gays serving openly in the military and oppose DADT, but she did this to herself.
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Only in your mind she did. I think you need to re-read the case and see the events that lead to her discharge.

I also don't appreciate your thinly veiled attempt to make it seem like you support a just cause like eliminating DADT, while simultaneously unjustly blaming the woman for something she had no part in.

You're a hypocrite.
 
Vader said:
The police where not there for the Sgt.; therefore, her marriage was none of their damn business.
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Oh yes. So if they aren't there for one crime they have to ignore another? Have you been wathcing Law and Order again for your legal advice?

The police were wrong and their mistake needs to end some careers and cost the Rapid City and the RCPD a whole lot of money.
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Really. So what law did they break? Go ahead and explain that to us.
 
I keep seeing the whole invasion of privacy arguement & it has no basis....
There is no presumotion of privacy here....
That marriage certificate is on file as a public record......;)
The evidence was gathered during a police investigation......;)
 
Vader said:
The police where not there for the Sgt.; therefore, her marriage was none of their damn business.
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So you don't know that the other person is also in that marriage?


Vader said:
The police were wrong and their mistake needs to end some careers and cost the Rapid City and the RCPD a whole lot of money.
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The police didn't brake any law.
 
spud_meister said:
so the police are able to phone up and tell anyone anything about what they uncover in an investigation?
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Why, yes......;)
Yes they are.....:doh
There is no constraint upon them to withhold comment on matters of public record.......:)
 
texmaster said:
Oh yes. So if they aren't there for one crime they have to ignore another? Have you been wathcing Law and Order again for your legal advice?
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What civilian crime was she committing that the officers were investigating?
 
obsequious said:
The freedom of information act.
The display of sed cert. which can be seen in public (numerous examples of cases where exhibiting your private things which can be seen from outside MAKE it public... though usually drinking or exposing ones self)


Let us consider a few things, shall we?
1. You gay marry a wanted felon in a career which frowns upon such... meh.
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To hell with that line and logic.

Your issues seem to be with DADT.

Do the women in this arena (debatepolitics.com) care to have co-ed showers in all gyms?

Why not?

I'm out.

Hi.

(Call me a homophobe. Dare ya.)
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Did anyone else understand a word of this at all? Sounds less like a homophobe than it does a bunch of cretinous babbling.
 
Partisan said:
Her 'partner' had an arrest warrant from Alaska that they were trying to serve......;)
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Yeah, her partner did. She did not. And unless her partner was also in the military, there was zero impetus for them to phone up the military to tell them anything at all about the sgt in question. None.

You can keep trying but you and texmaster will keep failing.
 
jallman said:
Yeah, her partner did. She did not. And unless her partner was also in the military, there was zero impetus for them to phone up the military to tell them anything at all about the sgt in question. None.

You can keep trying but you and texmaster will keep failing.
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That still doesn't make them guilty of any privacy violation issues....;)
They may or may not have been required to report the violation of military code, but they were well within their rights to report a matter of public record to the proper authorities....:2wave:
Think of it as a public service......:lol:
 
Partisan said:
That still doesn't make them guilty of any privacy violation issues....;)
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Actually, considering they did not have any probably cause to search the through records of this sgt, yeah it does. She was under no investigation and her marriage license was not posted for the police to see. Further, there was no cause for the police to insinuate themselves into her professional life.

At the very least, there is harassment going on here.

They may or may not have been required to report the violation of military code, but they were well within their rights to report a matter of public record to the proper authorities....
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They have no reason to report this to her employer. The fact that it's a public ****ing record precludes the need for report. :2wave::2wave::2wave:

Think of it as a public service......:lol:
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Except to those of us who actually do think, it's not a public service. It is a total waste of public funds for the sole purpose of harassment. Real conservatives would find that wrong. But then, no one has ever accused you, texmaster, or charlse martel of being real conservatives. LOLOLOLOLOL
 
jallman said:
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ey did not have any probably cause to search the through records of this sgt, yeah it does. She was under no investigation and her marriage license was not posted for the police to see. Further, there was no cause for the police to insinuate themselves into her professional life.

At the very least, there is harassment going on here
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Reporting a violation is not harassment.....;)

They have no reason to report this to her employer. The fact that it's a public ****ing record precludes the need for report.
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They reported a violation of UCMJ, if the charge had been murder, they would have reported that too....;)

Except to those of us who actually do think, it's not a public service. It is a total waste of public funds for the sole purpose of harassment. Real conservatives would find that wrong. But then, no one has ever accused you, texmaster, or charlse martel of being real conservatives.
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As stated before, correcting a violation of the UCMJ is a public service....;)
Your position is untenable, give up now....:lol:
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Partisan said:
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Reporting a violation is not harassment.....;)
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There was no violation. No matter how many stupid and idiotic winkies you use.


They reported a violation of UCMJ, if the charge had been murder, they would have reported that too....;)
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There was no violation. No matter how many stupid and idiotic winkies you use.

As stated before, correcting a violation of the UCMJ is a public service....;)
Your position is untenable, give up now....:lol:
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As stated before, there was no violation. No matter how many stupid and idiotic smilies you use.

You fail. Again.
 
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