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Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

Navy Pride said:
Redress your smarter then that........
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I am exactly that smart. Gay and strait are two facets of the same thing, orientation, just like left handed and right handed are two facets of handedness(I looked, it is a word). Now, instead of calling me dumb, how about actually trying to refute what I am saying.
 
Navy Pride said:
Horse****.......This is about accepting the gay lifestyle as a suitable alternative lifestyle and most Americans are not ready to do that, especially in the deep south.......
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1) want to source that most people are not ready for that?

2) It most definitely is about the prom. I know it makes it harder for you to argue your point, but that does happen to be the topic...
 
Redress said:
I am exactly that smart. Gay and strait are two facets of the same thing, orientation, just like left handed and right handed are two facets of handedness(I looked, it is a word). Now, instead of calling me dumb, how about actually trying to refute what I am saying.
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No they are not the same thing.........They are completely different......Those 2 lesbaian can not procreate...........If we only had gays and lesbians in this world the human race would be wiped out...........huge difference........

Oh and I never called you dumb just misinformed..........
 
Redress said:
1) want to source that most people are not ready for that?

2) It most definitely is about the prom. I know it makes it harder for you to argue your point, but that does happen to be the topic...
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31-0 defeats against gay marriage.....to me that is pretty conclusive.........It will get worse in November at some point it will be 48-2 against gay marriage

It has nothing to do with the prom.........
 
Navy Pride said:
No they are not the same thing.........They are completely different......Those 2 lesbaian can not procreate...........If we only had gays and lesbians in this world the human race would be wiped out...........huge difference........

Oh and I never called you dumb just misinformed..........
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Holy ****, you are kidding, right? We do have gays and lesbians in this world, and have had since probably the dawn of civilization or before. Best estimates are 5 to 10 % of the worlds population is gay. We are still here. Numerous animals species have gay interactions, and they are still around. Your argument has exactly zero merit.
 
Navy Pride said:
No they are not the same thing.........They are completely different......Those 2 lesbaian can not procreate...........If we only had gays and lesbians in this world the human race would be wiped out...........huge difference........
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Au contraire; two lesbians can "procreate" twice as much as a heterosexual couple.
About 60% of lesbians are parents, as opposed to a little over 80% of heterosexual women.
Not enough difference in birth rates there to result in the extinction of the human race, even if we suddenly all turned gay.
 
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Navy Pride said:
31-0 defeats against gay marriage.....to me that is pretty conclusive.........It will get worse in November at some point it will be 48-2 against gay marriage

It has nothing to do with the prom.........
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Let's move the goalpost why don't we. You said accept the gay lifestyle, now all of a sudden it's about gay marriage votes. Here, I am going to help you out and do something that actually supports an argument...I am going to supply data, alot of it. The following source is a compilation of recent polling on carious subjects about gays.

Civil Rights

The numbers are pretty wildly divergent(which is interesting in itself), but the trends are pretty consistent. let's look at some numbers:

Very top poll: ""Do you favor or oppose permitting people who are openly gay or lesbian to serve in the military?"

69 % favor, 27 % oppose, 4 % unsure

"Do you personally think that homosexual relationships between consenting adults is morally wrong, or not a moral issue?"

48 % morally wrong, 50 %not a moral issue, 2 % unsure

"Do you think gay and lesbian couples should or should not be allowed to form legally recognized civil unions, giving them the legal rights of married couples in areas such as health insurance, inheritance and pension coverage?"

66 % should 31 % should not 3 % unsure

"Some people say that ending discrimination against gay men and women is as necessary today as ending discrimination against blacks was in the 1960s. Do you agree or disagree?"

44 % agree 50 % disagree 6 % unsure

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Sure looks like your "most people" is questionable at best.
 
texmaster said:
Remember, its ok to force others to accept your personal preferences as long as you like it. Hitler was quite successful with this philosophy.

Redress, when are you going to admit your views are in the minority in this country?

Just curious why you love so much living in denial?
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1) No one is forcing anyone to accept anyone's sexual orientation. You are not being asked to engage in any kind of homosexual activity. You don't have to accept it or acknowledge it. You can always choose to close your eyes to it. You have no right to not be offended.

2) Godwins Law. Try again.
 
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Redress said:
Holy ****, you are kidding, right? We do have gays and lesbians in this world, and have had since probably the dawn of civilization or before. Best estimates are 5 to 10 % of the worlds population is gay. We are still here. Numerous animals species have gay interactions, and they are still around. Your argument has exactly zero merit.
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This might help...

Tolerance for Gay Rights at High-Water Mark
 
I wish I could be a witness for the plaintiff. I would prove their case, by myself, with the following testimony:


The Rock says, you take your homophobia, shine it up real nice, turn that some b*tch sideways, and stick it straight up your candy ass!
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I mean, the school's logic was just infinitely dumb, so you can't possibly get a dumber argument than that, so why the hell not?
 
Navy Pride said:
Horse****.......This is about accepting the gay lifestyle as a suitable alternative lifestyle and most Americans are not ready to do that, especially in the deep south.......
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It has NOTHING to go with "accepting the gay lifestyle as a suitable alternative lifestyle". It has EVERYTHING to do with allowing others to live their lives in freedom and not imposing your close minded views onto their private decisions.
 
Navy Pride said:
I am not a big bible guy and like I said I believe what 2 people do in the privacy of their bedroom be they straight or gay is their business and I don't want to hear about it........

By pulling this crap in and area of the country that believes as I do gays won't let me do that.......These 2 kids want to flaunt their lesbianism and they are doing it in the wrong place....that is all I am saying.........
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So in other words....go back into the closet and everything is ok with you. Right?
 
disneydude said:
It has NOTHING to go with "accepting the gay lifestyle as a suitable alternative lifestyle". It has EVERYTHING to do with allowing others to live their lives in freedom and not imposing your close minded views onto their private decisions.
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But this was a publicly displayed decision.....;)
 
Navy Pride said:
By pulling this crap in and area of the country that believes as I do gays won't let me do that.......These 2 kids want to flaunt their lesbianism and they are doing it in the wrong place....that is all I am saying.........
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Just like heterosexuals constantly flaunt their lifestyle in everyone's face every single day in society via movies, television, music, etc.? :roll:
 
Partisan said:
But this was a publicly displayed decision.....;)
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Publicly displayed because the school district decided to impose their views on a private decision.
Had the school simply respected individual privacy and not tried to legislate their morality, it wouldn't have been an issue.
 
Partisan said:
DADT works for me, that is what gay bars are for anyway....;)
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Sorry, but gays are tired of being forced by the bigots in this country to stay in the closet and drink out of their drinking fountains. If you look around the country, a lot of gay bars are closing because the vast majority of society is more accepting of gays and the purpose of a "gay bar" is being lost as minds are being opened and barriers are coming down.
 
Dr_Patrick said:
Just like heterosexuals constantly flaunt their lifestyle in everyone's face every single day in society via movies, television, music, etc.? :roll:
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Navy has said it time and again....he's "fine" with gays as long as they act straight in public.
 
It's bad enough that she is an open lesbian in Mississippi, now that she is an open lesbian who by her account got prom cancelled.. she can expect one hell of a year from her classmates and their parents.

I think the school administration should be sacked for practically giving the entire student body a gateway to harass an already (probably) harassed individual.
 
Arch Enemy said:
It's bad enough that she is an open lesbian in Mississippi, now that she is an open lesbian who by her account got prom cancelled.. she can expect one hell of a year from her classmates and their parents.

I think the school administration should be sacked for practically giving the entire student body a gateway to harass an already (probably) harassed individual.
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As a student I don't think I would be upset with her, but rather the school board. But I am sure there are some that would just put all the blame on her.
 
soccerboy22 said:
As a student I don't think I would be upset with her, but rather the school board. But I am sure there are some that would just put all the blame on her.
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I knew if this took place at my high school she would be harassed. We didn't take too kindly to those who were different.
 
Arch Enemy said:
I knew if this took place at my high school she would be harassed. We didn't take too kindly to those who were different.
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Yeah that might be true. My senior class only had like 30 kids in it and two of them were gay/lesbian. When they asked if they could bring their respective partners to prom we had no real problem with it.
 
Arch Enemy said:
I knew if this took place at my high school she would be harassed. We didn't take too kindly to those who were different.
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As an activist and a bit of a firebrand (she'd have to be, to try to do what she did. She knew there would be issues. She lives in Mississippi. She knew), I suspect that the popular opinion of the student body at large won't bother her too much.
She probably has her own group of friends, already outside the mainstream.

She will realize that the decision to cancel prom is not her fault; she will have little interest in or sympathy for any of her peers who attempt to blame her.
She will know that what she's done, and what she's going through now, may be helpful to those who come after her.
And hopefully, she'll feel a little bit proud of herself.
In her own tiny way, she's making history.
 
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