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Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

You're missing the point. What was the REASON they canceled the event? To censor free speech and show bias towards gays.
No... the reason they canceled the event was because they didn't want to be forced by a powerful lobby into conducting an event in a manner in which they didn't feel comfortable.

If their goal were to "censor free speech and show bias towards gays" --as you suggest -- it would have made more sense to go through with the event and enforce their policies.
 
Why don't movie stars from this generation look nearly as good as those from the 30-50's?

Because they don't wear tuxes enough. There's something about cross dressing that ^^^s sexiness.

Also, this is an interesting history of gay prom rights...

Prom Rights Mean Gay Teens Can Enjoy Prom Night by Deb Price on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

MIssissippi is on the losing end of this, I predict.

Does anyone remember the story about the segregated prom in Georgia last year?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/magazine/24prom-t.html
 
It seems I am being tag teamed here :shock:.

In any case I believe in my positions, and I will fight against this assault on our culture. I have put my position in clear terms, and I cannot add anything else. I appreciate your positions, and I do listen and learn, perhaps I am wrong and I admit that possiblity.
 
No... the reason they canceled the event was because they didn't want to be forced by a powerful lobby into conducting an event in a manner in which they didn't feel comfortable.

If their goal were to "censor free speech and show bias towards gays" --as you suggest -- it would have made more sense to go through with the event and enforce their policies.

They knew that they couldn't legally enforce such a policy, not without getting their butts sued, and the entire board would have most likely have lost their jobs if that had gone to a lawsuit after being shown precisely why that can't deny a gay couple into a prom.

As it is now, they probably won't last too long on that board after all the negative publicity it has gotten. And especially not if this lawsuit ends up costing them a lot of money.
 
You know, this happened last year in Alabama, too.
Yes, and I believe it followed a similar course. The school district canceled prom and the ACLU threatened to sue to reinstate.

In that instance, the Alabama district either capitulated or was overturned by the superintendent, so it never went to court. Will be interesting to see what happens here - the district is under tremendous public pressure so we may see a very similar outcome.
 
If their goal were to "censor free speech and show bias towards gays" --as you suggest -- it would have made more sense to go through with the event and enforce their policies.

They knew they wouldn't get away with that so they cancelled the prom instead. They would have gotten their butts sued and the school would have lost.
 
As it is now, they probably won't last too long on that board after all the negative publicity it has gotten. And especially not if this lawsuit ends up costing them a lot of money.
I'm doubtful it will go to court, but we'll see.

The original version of the AP article in the OP (a completely different article than what's there now!) suggested that the board had a lot of support from its residents, but who knows.
 
Re: Mississippi School Cancels Prom

I don't believe that much bending is required to allow a high school student to select the date of his/her choice and dress within the constraints of their school dress code.

Believe it or not, there are girls out there who aren't particularly comfortable in a dress. In most schools, they are allowed to wear equivalent appropriate formalwear.

I don't believe that this has resulted in massive social upheaval. :shrug:

I dont either...nor do I think it would have been an issue if they had simply shown up. As was stated by another poster...that is NOT an uncommon event.

The simple fact is that a rule existed and they went out of their way to ADVERTISE their intent to flaunt the rule. They tipped the schoolboards hand...the school simply responded.

The rule in question was not wether or not she should be able to wear a tux.
 
It seems I am being tag teamed here :shock:.

In any case I believe in my positions, and I will fight against this assault on our culture. I have put my position in clear terms, and I cannot add anything else. I appreciate your positions, and I do listen and learn, perhaps I am wrong and I admit that possiblity.

I find it hard to believe that a girl asking for a rule change in her school is somehow assaulting culture. I also think you are out of touch with the culture of young people these days.
 
They knew they wouldn't get away with that so they cancelled the prom instead. They would have gotten their butts sued and the school would have lost.
Well, haha, they got their butts sued anyway.

Although it's convienent to describe their intentions as CC did, it's not terribly realistic.
 
Evidence?


Majority rights do not trump minority rights.



Maybe the rules are stupid and outdated. :shrug:

FUN! Lets ALL start denigrating peoples opinions when they happen to disagree with our own...
 
I count on this...
Well, sometimes. ;):mrgreen:

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Ew. I'll never understand the 80's.
 
FUN! Lets ALL start denigrating peoples opinions when they happen to disagree with our own...

How is it exactly hurting someone's opinion to say that a rule is "stupid and outdated"? Some rules and laws are stupid and outdated. Like those laws that say that people can only take baths on certain days, at certain times. Or those laws that are still on the books, but can't legally be enforced. Those would be stupid and outdated laws. It has nothing to do with trying to put down someone's opinion.
 
It seems I am being tag teamed here :shock:.

In any case I believe in my positions, and I will fight against this assault on our culture. I have put my position in clear terms, and I cannot add anything else. I appreciate your positions, and I do listen and learn, perhaps I am wrong and I admit that possiblity.

I <3 you, man. :)
 
Well, sometimes. ;):mrgreen:

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Ew. I'll never understand the 80's.

I try hard to forget the 80's. Not a good decade.

Damn you thought...I will admit however I laughed.
 
FUN! Lets ALL start denigrating peoples opinions when they happen to disagree with our own...

I didn't denigrate people's opinions. I denigrated the rules themselves.

Guess what? Some rules/laws ARE outdated. Do you want a list?
 
The 80s were awesome. I guess yours included being on a boat which might be not-awesome.

It never happened. The 80's didn't happen. We were all out to lunch. Nothing interesting or weird occurred, ok?
 
How is it exactly hurting someone's opinion to say that a rule is "stupid and outdated"? Some rules and laws are stupid and outdated. Like those laws that say that people can only take baths on certain days, at certain times. Or those laws that are still on the books, but can't legally be enforced. Those would be stupid and outdated laws. It has nothing to do with trying to put down someone's opinion.

Because some people believe those ideas...rules...laws...arent stupid and outdated. Some people believe the notion that people still promote the idea of two men marrying is idiotic...asenine...to say nothing of the really fun crude and vulgar comments that could go with along with it.

But there is only one side Ive seen on this board that routinely attacks and ridicules people because of their different beliefs. Oh...I know it happens all the time out there in the 'real world'...but in here? The pathetic narrow minded intolerant bigots all wear the same pointy little hats.
 
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I didn't denigrate people's opinions. I denigrated the rules themselves.

Guess what? Some rules/laws ARE outdated. Do you want a list?

Some are. You bet.
 
Because some people believe those ideas...rules...laws...arent stupid and outdated. Some people believe the notion that people still promote the idea of two men marrying is idiotic...asenine...to say nothing of the really fun crude and vulgar comments that could go with along with it.

But there is only one side Ive seen on this board that routinely attacks and ridicules people because of their different beliefs. Oh...I know it happens all the time out there in the 'real world'...but in here? The pathetic narrow minded intolerant bigots all wear the same pointy little hats.

And some people believed the same thing about interracial couples 40 years ago. They were convinced that they were right and their laws weren't "stupid or outdated" at all. They even felt that their constitutional amendments banning interracial marriages were necessary to maintain their own beliefs on what marriages were supposed to be lawful and allowed.

There are even people today who believe that interracial dating is a sin, and should not be condoned or allowed. I know a member of my husband's family feels this way, and my grandparents did. My grandparents would say the same exact things you are saying about gay couples, only it would be about interracial couples (of course they'd have also said it about gay couples). There are plenty of people still left in the US that would not want their children exposed to interracial couples, because they find them sinful and/or unnatural and/or just wrong.
 
And some people believed the same thing about interracial couples 40 years ago. They were convinced that they were right and their laws weren't "stupid or outdated" at all. They even felt that their constitutional amendments banning interracial marriages were necessary to maintain their own beliefs on what marriages were supposed to be lawful and allowed.

There are even people today who believe that interracial dating is a sin, and should not be condoned or allowed. I know a member of my husband's family feels this way, and my grandparents did. My grandparents would say the same exact things you are saying about gay couples, only it would be about interracial couples (of course they'd have also said it about gay couples). There are plenty of people still left in the US that would not want their children exposed to interracial couples, because they find them sinful and/or unnatural and/or just wrong.

Hell...some people threw out the whole idea of morals and values and partied while Rome burned. Some people have gone from values to situational ethics. And SOME people still believe in pretty fundamental scientific realities that men and women kinda work together physiologically.

Oh...dont worry...Im all about live and let live...truly. I have nothing but love for people and hope they find peace and happiness...even people I dont agree with. But ya know...I STILL think brothers and sisters shouldnt be allowed to marry. Im STILL opposed to polygamy. And I STILL think homosexual marriage is wrong.
 
Hell...some people threw out the whole idea of morals and values and partied while Rome burned. Some people have gone from values to situational ethics. And SOME people still believe in pretty fundamental scientific realities that men and women kinda work together physiologically.

Oh...dont worry...Im all about live and let live...truly. I have nothing but love for people and hope they find peace and happiness...even people I dont agree with. But ya know...I STILL think brothers and sisters shouldnt be allowed to marry. Im STILL opposed to polygamy. And I STILL think homosexual marriage is wrong.

Seems contradictory to me. If you are all about live and let live, why do you want to control what brothers and sisters do with each other?
 
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