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Lesbian teen back at Miss. school after prom flap

because that would affect his life, paying for the treatment of their retarded children.
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1. Why would he be paying for their treatment? Shouldn't the parents pay for the treatment?

2. Does that mean you think we shouldn't allow women over 40 to have children? As I understand it, they have an even greater risk of producing children with birth defects than incestuous couplings.
 
VanceMack said:
Hell...some people threw out the whole idea of morals and values and partied while Rome burned. Some people have gone from values to situational ethics. And SOME people still believe in pretty fundamental scientific realities that men and women kinda work together physiologically.

Oh...dont worry...Im all about live and let live...truly. I have nothing but love for people and hope they find peace and happiness...even people I dont agree with. But ya know...I STILL think brothers and sisters shouldnt be allowed to marry. Im STILL opposed to polygamy. And I STILL think homosexual marriage is wrong.
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And I think you are wrong. Love isn't about what parts fit together nicely. Love is about who fits together emotionally with someone else.

I have values. Fairness is one of my big ones. Love is another one. My values may not match yours, but they are still values.
 
Oh...dont worry...Im all about live and let live...truly. I have nothing but love for people and hope they find peace and happiness...even people I dont agree with. But ya know...I STILL think brothers and sisters shouldnt be allowed to marry. Im STILL opposed to polygamy. And I STILL think homosexual marriage is wrong.
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That isn't a problem. However, when a person abuses their authority as a school administrator to promote such views in unacceptable. Holding a personal viewpoint and using power to force that viewpoint on others are very different things. For example, I consider bigotry towards homosexuals to be quite distasteful, and I don't like people who promote such viewpoints. But if you made me principal of a school, I'm not going to ban kids who don't like gays from prom.
 
Panache said:
1. Why would he be paying for their treatment? Shouldn't the parents pay for the treatment?

2. Does that mean you think we shouldn't allow women over 40 to have children? As I understand it, they have an even greater risk of producing children with birth defects than incestuous couplings.
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1.Because the way healthcare system is setup.

2. Yes.
 
An update to this, the Miss. Safe Schools Coalition is organizing a prom for them.

Mississippi Safe Schools Coalition

Sounds like this will be more practical than going to New Orleans for their prom, since most of the kids' parents are probably not going to approve of their children going to prom almost 4 hours away.
 
roguenuke said:
An update to this, the Miss. Safe Schools Coalition is organizing a prom for them.

Mississippi Safe Schools Coalition

Sounds like this will be more practical than going to New Orleans for their prom, since most of the kids' parents are probably not going to approve of their children going to prom almost 4 hours away.
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This is fine as long as it is privately paid for.
 
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Panache said:
Seems contradictory to me. If you are all about live and let live, why do you want to control what brothers and sisters do with each other?
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I personally dont CARE what they do to or with each other.
 
roguenuke said:
And I think you are wrong. Love isn't about what parts fit together nicely. Love is about who fits together emotionally with someone else.

I have values. Fairness is one of my big ones. Love is another one. My values may not match yours, but they are still values.
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Great. I think YOU are wrong. Im not going to insult you though because I disagree with you. Thats the foundation of the word tolerance...accepting people...even if you disagree with them. That requires neither to change...just accept. And I do. Live...love...do whatever the hell you want.
 
rathi said:
That isn't a problem. However, when a person abuses their authority as a school administrator to promote such views in unacceptable. Holding a personal viewpoint and using power to force that viewpoint on others are very different things. For example, I consider bigotry towards homosexuals to be quite distasteful, and I don't like people who promote such viewpoints. But if you made me principal of a school, I'm not going to ban kids who don't like gays from prom.
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The school district has a rule in place. You dont like it...go there...live in their district, and vote to change the rule. Its not that difficult of a concept.

Maybe you have missed it. I specifically said if they had simply gone...made their plans and gone without creating the spectacle, its highly unlikely we would be READING about any of this. But that wasnt enough...they wanted to make a STATEMENT. Well...they did. And here we are.
 
Re: Mississippi School Cancels Prom

DarkWizard12 said:
I don't agree with punishing a whole class for the actions of a few.
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Actions of who? This article only mentioned punishing the whole class to avoid offending extremist religious nuts. It didn't mention the actions of anyone.

Maybe they should've just done a segregated prom like another Buy-Bull Belt school did a few years back.
 
I personally dont CARE what they do to or with each other.
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Really? Because what you said was:

But ya know...I STILL think brothers and sisters shouldnt be allowed to marry.
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Perhaps you meant that you didn't think they should get married, but that whether they did or not was not for you or anyone else to decide for them? That would be a bit more consistent.
 
The school district has a rule in place. You dont like it...go there...live in their district, and vote to change the rule. Its not that difficult of a concept.
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It isn't decided by popular vote. Folks in charge created rules that were in violation of students Title IX rights. Constance went through the appropriate channels to get the rules changed.
 
The school district has a rule in place. You dont like it...go there...live in their district, and vote to change the rule. Its not that difficult of a concept.

Maybe you have missed it. I specifically said if they had simply gone...made their plans and gone without creating the spectacle, its highly unlikely we would be READING about any of this. But that wasnt enough...they wanted to make a STATEMENT. Well...they did. And here we are.
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So instead of using the legal framework to challenge a rule, she should have just broken it? You think that would have been a better option?

Also, still doesn't change the fact that the rule should have never been made in the first place. Using the authority of a public school administrator to push personal viewpoints at the expense of students is not acceptable.
 
What really amazes me are those that support this school "upholding" their view of morality are the same ones that say that morality shouldn't be taught in schools.

I guess indoctrination is ok with schools as long as it is anti-gay indoctrination.
 
TheNextEra said:
What really amazes me are those that support this school "upholding" their view of morality are the same ones that say that morality shouldn't be taught in schools.

I guess indoctrination is ok with schools as long as it is anti-gay indoctrination.
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Morality should definately be taugth in school, who says other wise?
 
What really amazes me are those that support this school "upholding" their view of morality are the same ones that say that morality shouldn't be taught in schools.
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Really? Like who? I thought in general it was us godless gay loving heathens that didn't want morality taught in schools.:confused:
 
OxymoronP said:
Morality should definately be taugth in school, who says other wise?
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Most conservatives believe that morality should be taught by parents, not the schools. Since when is the job of a school to teach morality?
 
OxymoronP said:
Morality should definately[sic] be taugth[sic] in school, who says other wise?[sic]
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Me. I "definately" think spelling and grammar should be "taugth" it schools though. ;)
 
No! Societies definition of right and wrong, based on the pathos and ethics of our nation.
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So when social ethics evolve to be accepting and supportive of polygamy, you will be fine with that being taught in schools right?
 
OxymoronP said:
No! Societies definition of right and wrong, based on the pathos and ethics of our nation.
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It was right at one point in this country's history to have slaves and deny blacks an education.

Just because society says something is right, doesn't mean it is. You are saying mob rule is the way to go in defining what is right and wrong.
 
Taylor said:
No... the reason they canceled the event was because they didn't want to be forced by a powerful lobby into conducting an event in a manner in which they didn't feel comfortable.

If their goal were to "censor free speech and show bias towards gays" --as you suggest -- it would have made more sense to go through with the event and enforce their policies.
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Nothing but spin. They canceled the even because "they were uncomfortable"? Please. That's spin for bias.
 
Taylor said:
Well, haha, they got their butts sued anyway.

Although it's convienent to describe their intentions as CC did, it's not terribly realistic.
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It's completely realistic. This was not something that they just pulled out of their ass. There was very specific motivation behind it. Can you explain why you are denying that?
 
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