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Detroit looks at downsizing to save city

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Detroit looks at downsizing to save cityDETROIT | Detroit, the very symbol of American industrial might for most of the 20th century, is drawing up a radical renewal plan that calls for turning large swaths of this now-blighted, rusted-out city back into the fields and farmland that existed before the automobile.

Operating on a scale never before attempted in this country, the city would demolish houses in some of the most desolate sections of Detroit and move residents into stronger neighborhoods. Roughly a quarter of the 139-square-mile city could go from urban to semi-rural.

Near downtown, fruit trees and vegetable farms would replace neighborhoods that are an eerie landscape of empty buildings and vacant lots. Suburban commuters heading into the city center might pass through what looks like the countryside to get there. Surviving neighborhoods in the birthplace of the auto industry would become pockets in expanses of green.

Detroit officials first raised the idea in the 1990s, when blight was spreading. Now, with the recession plunging the city deeper into ruin, a decision on how to move forward is approaching. Mayor Dave Bing, who took office last year, is expected to unveil some details in his state-of-the-city address this month.

"Things that were unthinkable are now becoming thinkable," said James W. Hughes, dean of the School of Planning and Public Policy at Rutgers University, who is among the urban experts watching the experiment with interest. "There is now a realization that past glories are never going to be recaptured. Some people probably don't accept that, but that is the reality."

The meaning of what is afoot is now settling in across the city.

"People are afraid," said Deborah L. Younger, executive director of a group called Detroit Local Initiatives Support Corporation that is working to revitalize five areas of the city. "When you read that neighborhoods may no longer exist, that sends fear."

Though the will to downsize has arrived, the way to do it is not clear and fraught with problems.

Politically explosive decisions must be made about which neighborhoods should be bulldozed and which improved. Hundreds of millions of federal dollars will be needed to buy land, raze buildings and relocate residents, since this financially desperate city does not have the means to do it on its own. It isn't known how many people in the mostly black, blue-collar city might be uprooted, but it could be thousands. Some won't go willingly.

I'm all for downsizing a nest of Democrats. Why should my tax dollars be used to do it? They shouldn't be.

Sell the land to private investors with the caveat that the buildings must be removed and some appropriate form of landscaping done if the new owner is not going to build on the property.

That's it. Have an auction, be done with it. No federal dollars should go to any project such as this. If the land goes for a hundred bucks an acre, then it's worth $100, as the new tax base.

Simple as that.
 
Demolishing these rotted out neighborhood will do a lots to reduce crime.
 
Demolishing these rotted out neighborhood will do a lots to reduce crime.

Yep.

Doesn't seem to be a matter for the federal government.

If it's something Michigan wants, let Michigan pay for it.
 
A block in Detroit:

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My reaction to the problems that have befallen Detroit is they brought it on themselves and now the whole State of California is fallowing them down the drain.

I have never wanted to go to or even pass through Detroit. It has a long reputation for being ghetto with a down town area.

Since 1950 people have been fleeing the City and I believe much of the Cities trouble comes from three major problems.

One is the unions helped drive the Auto industry out.

Two those in charge of the Auto industry failed to keep up with th Japanese manufacturers in terms of quality and versatility of their products in a changing market.

Three when Detroit was offered federal funding for city's modernization they misspent the money and added to the problems by building Highways to use for escape rather than urban renewal where it was needed.

Now they have no choice but to cut back which could end up being a good thing.

I wish we had a leader in charge here in California who could see the light before it becomes the fire from a riot because of the utter stupidity of the idiot Schwarzenegger who does nothing about the problems.

I hope he enjoys his Obama appointment. The low down RINO.
 
Some of those homes have promise for restoration for a young family.
I bet they could be gotten for a song.

They can. You can buy a 4 bedroom home in Detroit for about 20 grand. And good homes too, not the ones shown in your picture.

About that picture - It's nothing compared to how the west side looked after the 1967 riots. LOL.
 
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They can. You can buy a 4 bedroom home in Detroit for about 20 grand. And good homes too, not the ones shown in your picture.

About that picture - It's nothing compared to how the west side looked after the 1967 riots. LOL.

Man, if only that were true where I am.

I can find some really decent houses from 50k-70k but for 20k I could almost pay cash.
 
Man, if only that were true where I am.

I can find some really decent houses from 50k-70k but for 20k I could almost pay cash.

Good luck finding work in Detroit though

A real unemployment rate of around 40%.

The burbs around Detroit are probably better for jobs
 
Good luck finding work in Detroit though

A real unemployment rate of around 40%.

The burbs around Detroit are probably better for jobs

Yup, it's Great Depression there.
 
Operating on a scale never before attempted in this country, the city would demolish houses in some of the most desolate sections of Detroit and move residents into stronger neighborhoods. Roughly a quarter of the 139-square-mile city could go from urban to semi-rural.

Near downtown, fruit trees and vegetable farms would replace neighborhoods that are an eerie landscape of empty buildings and vacant lots. Suburban commuters heading into the city center might pass through what looks like the countryside to get there. Surviving neighborhoods in the birthplace of the auto industry would become pockets in expanses of green.

Detroit officials first raised the idea in the 1990s, when blight was spreading. Now, with the recession plunging the city deeper into ruin, a decision on how to move forward is approaching. Mayor Dave Bing, who took office last year, is expected to unveil some details in his state-of-the-city address this month.

This would be expensive in the short run, but in the long run, it would potentially hold the answers for a number of rust belt cities. There are other communities in the same state. One community I worked with, about 1/3 of the properties in the city are abandoned. Those abandoned properties are nests for crime, drug activity, and prostitution.

The people of Detroit (and particularly the children) are going to cost us money, one way or another, just like the people of New Orleans and the people of DC,and the people of East Cleveland, etc., etc.

We can either pay on the front end or the back end. Detroit is like Camden, NJ. I think 1/2 of Camden residents are already living in subsidized housing.
 
This would be expensive in the short run, but in the long run, it would potentially hold the answers for a number of rust belt cities. There are other communities in the same state. One community I worked with, about 1/3 of the properties in the city are abandoned. Those abandoned properties are nests for crime, drug activity, and prostitution.

The people of Detroit (and particularly the children) are going to cost us money, one way or another, just like the people of New Orleans and the people of DC,and the people of East Cleveland, etc., etc.

We can either pay on the front end or the back end. Detroit is like Camden, NJ. I think 1/2 of Camden residents are already living in subsidized housing.

Yup, Camden is a **** hole for sure......:shock:
I wonder why?.......:lol:
 
Hmm, so you are suggesting its a result of the afro-americans living in these places, partisan?
 
Hmm, so you are suggesting its a result of the afro-americans living in these places, partisan?

Well, if you looked at the demographics of both cities, you would have a stong arguement that this is the case, but I would not single out AAs as the sole cause of the malady........;)
That would be unfair........:)
 
Well, if you looked at the demographics of both cities, you would have a stong arguement that this is the case, but I would not single out AAs as the sole cause of the malady........;)
That would be unfair........:)




What do you think is the primary causes then. Specifically.
 
It's a waste of time and money. And by the way, it's not just Detroit. As someone who graduated from U of M and got the hell out on the first thing smoking (not even staying behind long enough to walk for any of my degrees), unemployment, crime, and poverty are permeated throughout the state. It's in Pontiac, Flint (where I'm from), Saginaw, and pretty much anywhere else along the I-75 corridor.

I would offer a solution and some common-sense infusion ideas, but I know I'd be called racist. It's a simple fact though, especially when you compare crime rates, race proportions, and demagougery.

People can complain about the situation, but the ones who are crying the loudest represent a very small voting bloc. I sincerely believe that the vast majority of people there don't really want change, or are not willing to do what it takes to facilitate a change. When you look at the politicians who have represented the Detroit metro area - Archer, Kilpatrick, Conyers, etc. - they pretty much welcome their current position.

I treat Detroit like Iraq. They didn't want democracy, so why force it upon them? Detroit doesn't want a change, and a few people who make the WXYZ news that whine and complain isn't a fair representation of the populace. They made their bed. Now shut up and lie in it.
 
The whole state of Michigan is scary. I drove from Illinois to Toronto so I was passing through and really the differences from how rich one state and the other is is very noticeable. I won't be traveling through Michigan during the night again.
But the actions of the government in Detriot are long overdue and I don't believe it will work out.
 
What do you think is the primary causes then. Specifically.

The primary cause for Deeeetroit is the death of the American auto industry.....;)
I think Camden's problem is that it gets all of Philly's rejects.....:lol:
Camden is more than half black & 30% Puerto Rican, 7% white, & is the poorest city of over 65K in the country, I will let that fact speak for itself......;)




Camden
Crime rates (2008)
Crime type Rate*
Homicide: 70.9
Forcible rape: 91.9
Robbery: 1,069.8
Aggravated assault: 1,099.9
Violent crime: 2,332.6
Burglary: 1,602.7
Larceny-theft: 3,535.0
Motor vehicle theft: 1,310.0
Arson: 157.5
Property crime: 6,447.7
Notes
* Number of reported crimes per 100,000 population.
2008 population: 76,182
:shock::shock:
 
Detroit has fallen because of liberal policies and unions destroying the place. The industries that keep the city alive are plagued by parasitic union policies and leaders who spend way too much. May Detroit be a lesson to the rest of America.
 
The primary cause for Deeeetroit is the death of the American auto industry.....;)
I think Camden's problem is that it gets all of Philly's rejects.....:lol:
Camden is more than half black & 30% Puerto Rican, 7% white, & is the poorest city of over 65K in the country, I will let that fact speak for itself......;)




Camden
Crime rates (2008)
Crime type Rate*
Homicide: 70.9
Forcible rape: 91.9
Robbery: 1,069.8
Aggravated assault: 1,099.9
Violent crime: 2,332.6
Burglary: 1,602.7
Larceny-theft: 3,535.0
Motor vehicle theft: 1,310.0
Arson: 157.5
Property crime: 6,447.7
Notes
* Number of reported crimes per 100,000 population.
2008 population: 76,182
:shock::shock:




So are you correlating it to race or economic condition?
 
Camden makes Trenton look good.........:lol::lol::lol:
 
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