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Russia's Olympic 'humiliation'

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BBC Sport - Vancouver 2010 - Russia's Olympic 'humiliation'

Quoted from article(Mr Putin is a fanatical sportsman. He has vowed repeatedly to rebuild Russia's sporting prowess.

Russian sports officials thought they had created a secret formula. Spend millions on PR, and promise athletes top dollars for winning. It turns out it takes more than this to win medals

Russian commentator

Over the past 10 years his government has spent millions of dollars on new training programmes. Now people are starting to ask why there is nothing to show for it. )

Because it takes more than money to create a world class sportsperson.

Of course Russia could continue it's march back to Stalinism and the COMMAND economy, it seemed to work for Russia during those times.
 
It's tough trying to win without steroids.
 
[in Eastern European accent]: Because in Mother Russia, gold wins you!
 
jujuman13 said:
Of course Russia could continue it's march back to Stalinism and the COMMAND economy, it seemed to work for Russia during those times.
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Смотри! Рыночны фундаменталист! :lol:

Yeah that comment was so necessary.:roll:
 
I'm no fan of Putin in any sense but the people of Russia are basically the same as people all over the world and they want the same things I would guess and to say that because they that didn't do as well as past Olympic teams they were humiliation is, I think wrong.

Disappointed yes, hoping to fare better, or any number of was to describe what happened.

Russia has yet to recover from the collapse and break up of the USSR and their economic system is still a royal mess. The people in general are in poor financial shape and even though the government is spending millions on training etc the pool of citizens to draw from have been greatly reduced.

It is a bit sad that they resorted to claiming poor judging to account for not winning in men's figure skating, but making it to the games to compete is a life long challenge and anyone from anywhere should be proud and have nothing to feel Humiliated about.

That is unless you the Jamaican Bobsled Team of 1988 but even humiliation ended in a great deal of fun for everyone else. :thumbs:
 
Councilman said:
It is a bit sad that they resorted to claiming poor judging to account for not winning in men's figure skating...
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But hasn't there been a history of unfair judging against them in the recent past?
 
SE102 said:
But hasn't there been a history of unfair judging against them in the recent past?
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You mean to make up for all the years of cheating under the USSR? I hope so.
 
Councilman said:
I'm no fan of Putin in any sense but the people of Russia are basically the same as people all over the world and they want the same things I would guess and to say that because they that didn't do as well as past Olympic teams they were humiliation is, I think wrong.

Disappointed yes, hoping to fare better, or any number of was to describe what happened.

Russia has yet to recover from the collapse and break up of the USSR and their economic system is still a royal mess. The people in general are in poor financial shape and even though the government is spending millions on training etc the pool of citizens to draw from have been greatly reduced.

It is a bit sad that they resorted to claiming poor judging to account for not winning in men's figure skating, but making it to the games to compete is a life long challenge and anyone from anywhere should be proud and have nothing to feel Humiliated about.

That is unless you the Jamaican Bobsled Team of 1988 but even humiliation ended in a great deal of fun for everyone else. :thumbs:
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I met a dancer from Russia. She was very nice. I hope the Russian people can find a way to keep getting screwed by the people in power. On one hand, their Soviet system of Communism caused their economic collapse, but on the other hand most of the businessmen in Russia used to be criminals and gangsters during the Soviet-era so they have to learn how capitalism works with laws (or so I heard). Getting caught between communist totalitarians and corrupt businessmen is a tough vice to be squeezed by.

I wish nothing but the best for the Russian people.

The Russian politicians, on the other hand...
 
jujuman13 said:
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BBC Sport - Vancouver 2010 - Russia's Olympic 'humiliation'

Quoted from article(Mr Putin is a fanatical sportsman. He has vowed repeatedly to rebuild Russia's sporting prowess.

Russian sports officials thought they had created a secret formula. Spend millions on PR, and promise athletes top dollars for winning. It turns out it takes more than this to win medals

Russian commentator

Over the past 10 years his government has spent millions of dollars on new training programmes. Now people are starting to ask why there is nothing to show for it. )

Because it takes more than money to create a world class sportsperson.

Of course Russia could continue it's march back to Stalinism and the COMMAND economy, it seemed to work for Russia during those times.
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Sounds like the NY Rangers. :ssst:
 
Norway's medal tally shamed all the bigger nations. They came second overall from a population of 4.5 million. Imagine how well the USA would have done if their entire team were selected from one city the size of Detroit.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Norway's medal tally shamed all the bigger nations. They came second overall from a population of 4.5 million. Imagine how well the USA would have done if their entire team were selected from one city the size of Detroit.
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What the hell are you talking about? Shame, what shame? These athletes are people that want to go compete. So a country that lives in the snow made a lot of medals in the winter Olympics, are you surprised? How well do they do in the Summer Games? Well they get there head stomped in don't they? Man get outta here. :doh
 
The last Summer Olympics in Beijing saw China won the most gold medals (51). The current Winter Olympics is led by Canada with 14 gold medals. I sense a trend which should benefit the next hosts (UK and Russia):)
 
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Councilman said:
I'm no fan of Putin in any sense but the people of Russia are basically the same as people all over the world and they want the same things I would guess and to say that because they that didn't do as well as past Olympic teams they were humiliation is, I think wrong.

Disappointed yes, hoping to fare better, or any number of was to describe what happened.

Russia has yet to recover from the collapse and break up of the USSR and their economic system is still a royal mess. The people in general are in poor financial shape and even though the government is spending millions on training etc the pool of citizens to draw from have been greatly reduced.

It is a bit sad that they resorted to claiming poor judging to account for not winning in men's figure skating, but making it to the games to compete is a life long challenge and anyone from anywhere should be proud and have nothing to feel Humiliated about.

That is unless you the Jamaican Bobsled Team of 1988 but even humiliation ended in a great deal of fun for everyone else. :thumbs:
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If only there claim was for poor Judging that would be bad enough, but now they are suggesting that the Canadian Hockey team was on drugs.
 
paris said:
The last Summer Olympics in Beijing saw China won the most gold medals (51). The current Winter Olympics is led by Canada with 14 gold medals. I sense a trend which should benefit the next hosts (UK and Russia):)
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The USA set a record for medals in the winter Olympics this year.
 
Erod said:
The USA set a record for medals in the winter Olympics this year.
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Good job.

Canada and Germany still beat you in terms of gold medals though. Those goddam socialists!:)
 
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paris said:
Good job.

Canada and Germany still beat you in terms of gold medals though. Those goddam socialists!:)
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To be fair, Germany and Norway usually beat the US on medals. Now Canada also being up there, just shows how much home advantage can have.

In the end they are all winners for having been there, whether it is the US hockey team, or the Ghanaian skier.
 
PeteEU said:
To be fair, Germany and Norway usually beat the US on medals. Now Canada also being up there, just shows how much home advantage can have.

In the end they are all winners for having been there, whether it is the US hockey team, or the Ghanaian skier.
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Not really home advantage though

Canada spent alot of money on elite level athletes over the last few years in order to help them win medals. More money then we have ever spent on athletes for the olympics. We ended up doing quite well, but in generally non traditional sports or brand new ones to the winter games (Womens bobsled for instance, or Xcross skiing)

Same with China, they spent huge coin to do well in the olympics, they spent likely a few billion dollars a year developing athletes for the summer games

Two things can be very determinate in medal count, money and # of prospective athletes. Though Norway has a small population the sports it does well in Cross Country Skiing, Biathalon etc they have a lot of people taking part in them and are well funded. That allows them do do well in those specific sports
 
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What the hell are you talking about? Shame, what shame? These athletes are people that want to go compete. So a country that lives in the snow made a lot of medals in the winter Olympics, are you surprised? How well do they do in the Summer Games? Well they get there head stomped in don't they? Man get outta here. :doh
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Humiliation/shame. Why do this to yourself? :roll:
 
Did I read somewhere that most of Canada's medals were won by the female team members? Great job.
 
yeah, and go us Aussies, 14th and we only have half a dozen places that actually get snow :mrgreen:
 
PeteEU said:
To be fair, Germany and Norway usually beat the US on medals. Now Canada also being up there, just shows how much home advantage can have.

In the end they are all winners for having been there, whether it is the US hockey team, or the Ghanaian skier.
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Sure, we won twice as many gold as in Turin, but we totalled only 2 more overall medals on home soil.
 
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