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2 Generals Wary About Repealing Gay Policy

Lightdemon said:
C'mon on now...Your only problem is with the folks who are disobeying DADT. That's not a reason to keep DADT.

There are plenty of gay folks in the military who are keeping sexuality to themselves, what of them? There are plenty of potential recruits who are gay that have yet to register with the service. What of them?

Can you please explain why DADT is a good policy to keep? What is so important here?
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You keep repeating what I have already answered
 
Lightdemon said:
Educate me then. What does DADT do for the military? What benefit does it have?
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It maintains order in the military and if gays break the law its and easy way to get rid of them.....
 
Navy Pride said:
It maintains order in the military and if gays break the law its and easy way to get rid of them.....
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You're saying gays can't follow orders? Why don't you educate me on how DADT maintains order? I'm all ears here NP.
 
Lightdemon said:
Uh....clearly they are being kept out of service. What do you think DADT is? This policy is MEANT to keep them out. I would think someone who has been in the military, you'd at least know that. ;)
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This is meant to keep their personal life from interfering with their duties to their country.
 
Lightdemon said:
You're saying gays can't follow orders? Why don't you educate me on how DADT maintains order? I'm all ears here NP.
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I am saying gays sometimes make unwanted sexual advances against straights and its a good way to get rid of them.....simple as that........
 
Navy Pride said:
I am saying gays sometimes make unwanted sexual advances against straights and its a good way to get rid of them.....simple as that........
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So instead of making a blanket ban for gays being in the military, perhaps a better policy would be one that gets a soldier discharged for making unwanted sexual advances? That'd be an improvement would it not?
 
ptif219 said:
You have not showed how repealing it would benefit the military.
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There is no benefit to the military.........It will just cause more fights and disciplinary problems........
 
Lightdemon said:
Your opinion that it wasn't broke....Please keep up with me.
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That is the opinion of the guys in the military I talk to......Its no skin off my ass.......I am retired..........
 
ptif219 said:
What is done in the bedroom is private and has no place in the military No one cares.
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Tell me, do the men share stories about their wives back home? Don't men tell their buddies about their girlfriends back home? Have YOU ever done that?
 
Lightdemon said:
Tell me, do the men share stories about their wives back home? Don't men tell their buddies about their girlfriends back home? Have YOU ever done that?
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Yeah but most guys on a ship or in a company would consider that the norm........They don't want to hear about 2 gay lovers...........
 
Lightdemon said:
Tell me, do the men share stories about their wives back home? Don't men tell their buddies about their girlfriends back home? Have YOU ever done that?
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Can I ask you have you served?
 
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Navy Pride said:
Yeah but most guys on a ship or in a company would consider that the norm........They don't want to hear about 2 gay lovers...........
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So is that reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to serve the military and their country? Stories about gay sex?

C'mon you two, just go ahead and say it. You don't want gay sex in the military, right? Just come out and say it.

But you know what? Being gay doesn't make a guy horny all the fracking time. Just because a gay guy is looking at you doesn't mean he is undressing you with his eyes. Do you guys realize how homophobic you sound?
 
There is no benefit to the military.........It will just cause more fights and disciplinary problems........
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Starting fights with a gay cause hes gay sounds like good way to get kicked out of the army to me. Nice way to clear some trash. That way the unit is more 'cohesive' without the phobes around.

That is the opinion of the guys in the military I talk to......Its no skin off my ass.......I am retired..........
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Ever think that you only talk to like minded people?
 
Lightdemon said:
Tell me, do the men share stories about their wives back home? Don't men tell their buddies about their girlfriends back home? Have YOU ever done that?
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They might to their closest friends. Just like a gay could also tell another close gay friend. it does not mean it has to go ant farther.

The point is no one cares what you do. The success of the unit is what is important. This is where your focus needs to be not on sexual orientation or if you can talk about it.
 
Navy Pride said:
Yeah but most guys on a ship or in a company would consider that the norm........They don't want to hear about 2 gay lovers...........
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Other countries' militarys seem to handle it professionally. I think our troops can rise to the challenge. The duties of our military don't require a special sexual orientation. Sex is not part of their mission.
 
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