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Remember those East German female olympians? :lol:
Why does s/he have an American flag on their uniform and has an EDS logo?
Remember those East German female olympians? :lol:
OMG, and east German trying to pose as a US athlete. :shock:Why does s/he have an American flag on their uniform and has an EDS logo?
OMG, and east German trying to pose as a US athlete. :shock:
Look at those eyes, she's lying about something. :mrgreen:Damn sneaky East germans:mrgreen:
Never thought I'd see you put fairness above effectiveness. I've stated before I have nothing against women, but this is about national defense and national security. NOTHING should come before the effectiveness of our military. If women can fit in without undue burden upon military effectiveness and costs, fine. If not, the military shouldn't be burden with whining.
A Los Angeles class submarine has one head on the Foward Compartment Lower Level, and a bunk room for 21 men. The head has one toilet, one rain locker, one sink.
The Forward Comparment Middle Level has two connected bunk rooms where the rest of the enlisted bunk. The connection is the head. This head has one urinal, three toilets, two showers, three sinks.
The Chiefs are also on this level. The Goat Locker has twelve bunks, one head with one toilet, one shower, one sink.
The junior officers bunks and Wardroom are on this level, they share one head, with one toilet, one shower, and I can't recall if their two-man bunkrooms have sinks or not.
The XO and the CO are berthed in staterooms just forward of the Control Room.
Over 100 men, E-6 and below, share four toilets, one urinal, three showers and four sinks.
There ZERO facilities for split-tails.
Got it, people?
Nah, there's the sleeping and hygeine issues there, as well.
Which is probably why most new enlistees start out on a Carrier, so they can be eased slowly into the idea of tight cramped spaces.Another reason that I weant Air Force -- I have to give you Sub Swabbies credit for being able to put up with those conditions. So an aircraft carier must be like going club Med if someone has experienced Subs - I wold think !!
Which is probably why most new enlistees start out on a Carrier, so they can be eased slowly into the idea of tight cramped spaces.
*proof-reads the last*
Hmm…
Does anyone else notice the opportunities for sexual innuendo in that statement?
Maybe it's just my dirty mind again...
Pentagon to Allow Women on Subs | News | Advocate.com
The subs would be retrofit to accommodate women.
The Red Army had a good number of women on the front lines in WWII
/facepalmYeh and so we should behave like those barbarians !!!
Yeah, right...........:rofl
Since we are telling sea stories, I saw a training film on Navy Seals one time it included guys jumpimg off 12 story buildings. Parachuting with half chutes so they could get down faster//////going on 100 mile hikes.........living off the land, escape and evasion (I was there for this) eating roots, roaches, ants, spiders...I ate the roots but starved otherwise...Lost 20 lbs in 5 days.........
No need for a separate bathroom. Either both genders accept co-ed, or they don't serve on a sub. No reason to change any rules or regs at all.
You didn't hit yourself hard enough, I don't see a read handmark. :3oops:/facepalm
:doh
This is a good thing but based on this thread? I see sexism is still alive and kicking in this Good OLD Boy Country!
I hear they're going to install outhouses on subs for the women.oH GREAT - another ear mark or would the money for retrofitting subs to "accomodate" females be a Stimulus ?? oh oh what's his name will think that I am talking "sexual inuendo" .
I see; just a different kind of discrimination
What changed in the military during the late 40's to warrant overturning discrimination on the basis of race? Did white soldiers become more enlightened? Did someone discover that blacks were actually capable of doing jobs other than personal aids and truck drivers?
I always find it comical to watch how people rationalize their own bigotries and justify discrimination on that basis.
I went to AirForce Nav Avionics school and I think I found your 20 lbs .. YOU WANT THEM BACK .LOL
Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
A Los Angeles class submarine has one head on the Foward Compartment Lower Level, and a bunk room for 21 men. The head has one toilet, one rain locker, one sink.
The Forward Comparment Middle Level has two connected bunk rooms where the rest of the enlisted bunk. The connection is the head. This head has one urinal, three toilets, two showers, three sinks.
The Chiefs are also on this level. The Goat Locker has twelve bunks, one head with one toilet, one shower, one sink.
The junior officers bunks and Wardroom are on this level, they share one head, with one toilet, one shower, and I can't recall if their two-man bunkrooms have sinks or not.
The XO and the CO are berthed in staterooms just forward of the Control Room.
Over 100 men, E-6 and below, share four toilets, one urinal, three showers and four sinks.
There ZERO facilities for split-tails.
Got it, people?
Nah, there's the sleeping and hygeine issues there, as well.
I hear they're going to install outhouses on subs for the women.
They are NOT forced. They WRONGLY chose to do that, in detriment to everyone in those fields of work. Different training requirements is wrong on so many levels and the people who came up with them are ****ing retarded. Those sexist requirements set women up for failure and create an additional burden on the men. They are unfair to EVERYONEOf course women would pass the training the men go threough to become a SEAL. The military would be forced to lower the requirements until women could pass.
They did it with the firemen, they did it with the cops. They'll do it with the SEALS if they get a chance.
Two words: Birth ControlWomen aren't the equal of men.
one word proves this:
Pregnancy.
Then take it up with the ****heads who do that ****. Because that is flat out wrong and should be stopped immediately.No, the gripe is with the laws demanding equal pay for equal work, and then not requiring that equal work actually be equal work.
BC absolutely should be mandatory on a sub.Exactly.
Unless BC becomes mandatory - among other extreme measures - I'm fully against co-mingling in close-quarter situations. It invites more troubles than it'll prevent.
And?Of course there are some but they are the exception rather then the rule.........
Yeah, I know. Didn't ya hate when we forced our radical values and 'social experimentation' regarding blacks in the military too? :roll:Why must anyone accept anything that is philosophically in opppsition to our values. That is like saying that us normal people have to accept that Monika have two mommies or that Danny can actually have two daddies. Wrong is wrong and don't try tp force social experimentation on unwilling people.
Because it IS sexism. Plain and simple. It really doesn't get any more simplistically sexist than what you and others are blathering on about here.Just because some of us free thinking people do not accept women in combat or on craamped Sub why d how does that constitute sexism. I am sick and tired of the overuse and missuse of sexism just as I am tired of false accusations of racism. If you call every opinion that you do not agree with as sexist then you will mask the true sexist.
Leftwing concept of berthing aboard an LA class sub.A Los Angeles class submarine has one head on the Foward Compartment Lower Level, and a bunk room for 21 men. The head has one toilet, one rain locker, one sink.
The Forward Comparment Middle Level has two connected bunk rooms where the rest of the enlisted bunk. The connection is the head. This head has one urinal, three toilets, two showers, three sinks.
The Chiefs are also on this level. The Goat Locker has twelve bunks, one head with one toilet, one shower, one sink.
The junior officers bunks and Wardroom are on this level, they share one head, with one toilet, one shower, and I can't recall if their two-man bunkrooms have sinks or not.
The XO and the CO are berthed in staterooms just forward of the Control Room.
Over 100 men, E-6 and below, share four toilets, one urinal, three showers and four sinks.
There ZERO facilities for split-tails.
Got it, people?
Nah, there's the sleeping and hygeine issues there, as well.
Another reason that I went Air Force -- I have to give you Sub Swabbies credit for being able to put up with those conditions. So an aircraft carrier must be like going club Med if someone has experienced Subs - I would think !!
Damn but those are some primitive sleeping quarters, and so inefficient, too!Leftwing concept of berthing aboard an LA class sub.