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Argentina turning up the heat: UK to deploy more troops in Falklands

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The UK has made "all the preparations that are necessary" to protect the Falkland Islands, Prime Minister Gordon Brown has said.
However, the Ministry of Defence has denied reports that a naval taskforce is on its way to the Falklands.
Argentina has brought in controls on ships passing through its waters to the islands over UK plans to drill for oil.
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Argentine Deputy Foreign Minister Victorio Taccetti said his country would take "adequate measures" to stop oil exploration.

If Argentina thinks it has the right to dictate what we can or cannot do within our own sovereign boarders, then a large military deployement and naval deployement is neccessary in the Falklands to engage the hostile aggressors should they choose to attack. We should intimidate and rid of any naval Argentine forces conducting searches outside of its own waters and use our jets to strike at any Argentine military force who violate our territory.

Do i believe the Falklands will be a source of conflict in the future?
I would say its probable that that will not be the case.
But as stated in the article, the mistake the UK made in the 80's was that it didn't show Argentina the extent of its commitment to the Falklands, so they took advantage of this assuming they would not be greeted by too much British resistance; of course, they where wrong. We need to make sure the Argentines do not make the same stupid conclusion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8521429.stm
 
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The oil discovery has upped the ante......
The Falklands have a right to be free....;)
Hopefully, the Argentines will get a spanking to remind them......;)
 
Much like Thatcher in her day, Gordon Brown's in a hole, and winning a small war might keep him in power, like it did for her.
 
kaya'08 said:
Argentine Deputy Foreign Minister Victorio Taccetti said his country would take "adequate measures" to stop oil exploration.

If Argentina thinks it has the right to dictate what we can or cannot do within our own sovereign boarders, then a large military deployement and naval deployement is neccessary in the Falklands to engage the hostile aggressors should they choose to attack. We should intimidate and rid of any naval Argentine forces conducting searches outside of its own waters and use our jets to strike at any Argentine military force who violate our territory.

Do i believe the Falklands will be a source of conflict in the future?
I would say its probable that that will not be the case.
But as stated in the article, the mistake the UK made in the 80's was that it didn't show Argentina the extent of its commitment to the Falklands, so they took advantage of this assuming they would not be greeted by too much British resistance; of course, they where wrong. We need to make sure the Argentines do not make the same stupid conclusion.

BBC News - Gordon Brown says UK is prepared in Falkland Islands
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You guys should just give it back to Argentina or let it become independent.
There is no reason to hold an island that far away from your mainland.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
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You guys should just give it back to Argentina or let it become independent.
There is no reason to hold an island that far away from your mainland.
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Partisan is correct.
Also, the Falklands wants to remain part of Britain. They dont want to be "left alone" or given to Argentina; and why should they? It is Britain, after all.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
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You guys should just give it back to Argentina or let it become independent.
There is no reason to hold an island that far away from your mainland.
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I doubt the Falklands would last very long as an independent state.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Like Hawaii?
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Hawaii is an integral part of the United States. Can the same be said for the Falklands?

As it is, the UK clearly has sovereignty over the Falklands. Any international court would back up the claim, which is probably why Buenos Aires has not brought it up at the ICJ and rather relied on non-binding UNGA resolutions, which are far more political and emotional than they are legal, to get support for its claims.
 
ludahai said:
Hawaii is an integral part of the United States. Can the same be said for the Falklands?
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Yes, it serves our geopolitical interests, same reason why Hawaii has become an "integral" part of the US.
Hell, if there's oil there, this statement is doubly false.
 
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For example, if Venezuela turns ape **** under socialism and starts commo-raping colombia, we'd have a launch pad of our very own.
Better safe than sorry to say the least.
 
kaya'08 said:
Yes, it serves our geopolitical interests, same reason why Hawaii has become an "integral" part of the US.
Hell, if there's oil there, this statement is doubly false.
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Does the Falklands have the same status in the UK as England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland?

Hawaii DOES have the same status as any of the other 49 states in the United States.
 
ludahai said:
Does the Falklands have the same status in the UK as England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland?
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What exactly does this mean?
The status of England, Wales, Scotland and NI have the status of being under UK rule and sovereign. The Falklands have exactly the same status. Infact, Wales, Scotland and NI have semi-autonomous governments and the Falklands do too.
The only difference in status between the lot is the fact that the British isles country are part of a union agreement which encompasses the same thing the Falklands have basically become; semi-autonomous regions under the sovereign of the UK and rule of the UK.

Hawaii DOES have the same status as any of the other 49 states in the United States.
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So does the Falklands in all but name. So does all of our overseas territories.
 
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ludahai said:
Hawaii is an integral part of the United States. Can the same be said for the Falklands?
As it is, the UK clearly has sovereignty over the Falklands. Any international court would back up the claim, which is probably why Buenos Aires has not brought it up at the ICJ and rather relied on non-binding UNGA resolutions, which are far more political and emotional than they are legal, to get support for its claims.
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I agree with you, but pick another island, how about Purto Rico or better yet, American Samoa?....
What if Austrailia decided it wanted American Samoa, would we just hand it over?....:confused:
 
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