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'Time to reconsider' ban on gays in military: Cheney

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WASHINGTON — Former US vice president Dick Cheney said Sunday it was "time to reconsider" the ban on gays serving openly in the US military.


"Twenty years ago, the military were strong advocates of 'don't ask-don't tell,' when I was secretary of defense. I think things have changed significantly since then," Cheney told ABC's "This Week."


"When the chiefs come forward and say, 'We think we can do it,' then it strikes me that it's time to reconsider the policy."

And guess what? The chiefs DO say it is time to reconsider DADT. Guess what else? If "Darth Vader" himself says it is time to reconsider the policy, it is time to reconsider the policy...... Oops, I forgot, Dick Cheney is a Liberal, right? :mrgreen:

Article is here.
 
And guess what? The chiefs DO say it is time to reconsider DADT. Guess what else? If "Darth Vader" himself says it is time to reconsider the policy, it is time to reconsider the policy...... Oops, I forgot, Dick Cheney is a Liberal, right? :mrgreen:

Article is here.

I posted this in the thread about the FOX poll on DADT. From the conservative side we have vice president Cheney and Colin Powell both saying it's time to reconsider. You might be able to argue that Cheney does not know enough about the military to comment, but you certainly cannot say that about Powell. You might be able to argue that Powell is a social liberal, but certainly not Cheney. The two saying almost the same thing on this is pretty damning for those opposed.
 
You might be able to argue that Cheney does not know enough about the military to comment

Really? He used to be Secretary of Defense.

You might be able to argue that Powell is a social liberal, but certainly not Cheney.

Really? He's in favor of gay marriage, so this is hardly surprising.
 
Really? He used to be Secretary of Defense.

That would explain the word "might".


Really? He's in favor of gay marriage, so this is hardly surprising.

I do not think you can, by any stretch of the word, describe Cheney as liberal.
 
I have a hard time feeling strongly either way on this. My instinct is to go with the opinion of the military leadership, whatever that may be.

My first desire is to have a strong military. Gay rights within are WAY down the list for me when it comes to military priorities.
 
You might be able to argue that Cheney does not know enough about the military to comment, but you certainly cannot say that about Powell.

Wow, that is ridiculous. Cheney is one of the foremost experts when it comes to our military and intelligence. Powell knows about hut-two-hut-two stuff, but he doesn't know a lick compared to Cheney about the rest.
 
I have a hard time feeling strongly either way on this. My instinct is to go with the opinion of the military leadership, whatever that may be.

The opinion of the military leadership is to repeal DADT.

Just thought I would put that out there.
 
Wow, that is ridiculous. Cheney is one of the foremost experts when it comes to our military and intelligence. Powell knows about hut-two-hut-two stuff, but he doesn't know a lick compared to Cheney about the rest.

I am not sure why people are having a hard time with my comment. I did not say Cheney did not know enough, I said you might be able to make that argument. I agree with Cheney on this, I am not arguing against him at all.
 
You might be able to argue that Cheney does not know enough about the military to comment, but you certainly cannot say that about Powell.

How long has it been since General Powell served, "in the ranks"? You might be able to argue that he's no longer a line soldier anymore, but a politician and therefore, out of touch.
 
The opinion of the military leadership is to repeal DADT.

Just thought I would put that out there.

Show us a list of all active duty general officers that want to repeal DADT. Thanks in advance.
 
I have a hard time feeling strongly either way on this. My instinct is to go with the opinion of the military leadership, whatever that may be.

My first desire is to have a strong military. Gay rights within are WAY down the list for me when it comes to military priorities.

I posted this in another thread on this topic, repeating it here. Read and see what you think: Don't ask when: Repeal of gay ban won't be soon - Yahoo! News

As that study gets under way, officials were expected by mid-March to suggest ways to relax enforcement of the law. Of particular interest is minimizing cases of "third party outings," where a service member is kicked out after being reported by others to be gay.

The protracted time line is about more than giving military leaders time to assess the impact on troops and put new rules in place. The multiyear process also is a strategic way of getting troops used to the idea before they have to accept change. Politically, the time line puts off congressional debate over lifting the ban until after elections this fall.

Leaving aside the cowardice of putting off the vote till after elections this fall, it sounds like the military is going to go slowly with this and try and handle it as painlessly as possible.
 
What sort of gay-hating homophobic fascists would implement something like 'dont ask don't tell' in the first place? Such bigotry.
 
What sort of gay-hating homophobic fascists would implement something like 'dont ask don't tell' in the first place? Such bigotry.

Probably the same sort of filth that would cheat on their wives repeatedly, and with barely legal interns.
 
Probably the same sort of filth that would cheat on their wives repeatedly, and with barely legal interns.
Likely -- the character of such people is questionable at best.
 
What sort of gay-hating homophobic fascists would implement something like 'dont ask don't tell' in the first place? Such bigotry.

The same sort that would commit perjury.
 
The same sort that would commit perjury.
And whose supporters would argue that its OK to commit such a felony, so long as that felony involves consentual sex.
 
And whose supporters would argue that its OK to commit such a felony, so long as that felony involves consentual sex.

IOW, it's ok to lie about some things while under oath?
 
IOW, it's ok to lie about some things while under oath?
Yes, but just the things -they- think it is OK to lie about -- other opinions need not apply.
 
Yes, but just the things -they- think it is OK to lie about -- other opinions need not apply.

Well, I think it is ok to lie about how much money is being spent to kill terrorists.
 
I thought this was about Cheney and gays in the military, not a general attack on Clinton.
 
I thought this was about Cheney and gays in the military, not a general attack on Clinton.

I'm wondering how long it will take before it becomes about Palin.
 
I'm wondering how long it will take before it becomes about Palin.

Entirely possible, since some seem to be afraid to actually talk about the topic.
 
I have a hard time feeling strongly either way on this. My instinct is to go with the opinion of the military leadership, whatever that may be.

My first desire is to have a strong military. Gay rights within are WAY down the list for me when it comes to military priorities.

The your decision should be easy. The military leadership, including the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, are in favor of abolishing DADT.
 
I thought this was about Cheney and gays in the military, not a general attack on Clinton.
Wait... Clinton and a Dem-controlled Congress were the gay-hating homophpbic fascist bigots that put DADT in place?

Wow... whodathought?
 
Wait... Clinton and a Dem-controlled Congress were the gay-hating homophpbic fascist bigots that put DADT in place?

Wow... whodathought?

Holy spin!
 
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