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Women say some rape victims should take blame - survey

Jerry said:
Funny, so is gun ownership..and gun control, for that matter.

Thug wants to control you with rape, you can control him back with a .45.
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Again you may or may not be able to control him back.. May being keyword here. Or he takes the gun from ya and kills your little punk ass!
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
If you can't drop the hammer when the hammer needs dropping, you deserve whatever happens to you.

If you can't use it, don't carry it.
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Wow.. So you are saying that people who do decide to be pro-active (as been suggested in this thread by some nitwits) and carry deserve it if they get overpowered by some scumbucket? The deserve to be killed? :roll:

So I guess it is always the victims fault to some of you? :shock:
 
Kali said:
Are you aware of that posters posting history? There is nothing funny about his posts.
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Or maybe he was joking the whole time, throughout his history, and you didn't get it then either.

Do you really think he believes what he's saying?

Granted, the poster is a complete loser, but even he doesn't literally believe that women should be locked in kitchens.

Maybe you are fine with racist sexist folks making lame jokes?
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No, but I'm fine with non-racist non-sexist folks making jokes that make fun of racists and sexists by imitating them to absurdity, even if you don't get that.

I don't know the guy. I can't say for sure that's what he was up to. But I'll bet you it was.

When and if he says something funny? I may laugh. My sense of humor is just fine thank ya very much:roll:
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Go fix me a sandwich, woman.

See, it's funny because I don't really believe it. It's making fun of those who really do.

Now you try. Say "I'm too busy knitting" or something like that.
 
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Kali said:
Again you may or may not be able to control him back.. May being keyword here. Or he takes the gun from ya and kills your little punk ass!
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Well, if you are a little punk-ass who can't pull the trigger on someone who is trying to rape you, maybe so. I don't know why you'd assume this would be the average person though.

OTOH if it is so easy to take guns away from people as I'm always hearing, then just snatch it back. :mrgreen:


It baffles me why some women would be so anti-gun, when a gun in hand is the simplest way for a woman to neutralize the physical advantages of a male attacker. Granted, you have to have the brass to pull the trigger, but I've trained lots of women shooters and have no doubts they would.
 
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Kali said:
Again you may or may not be able to control him back.. May being keyword here. Or he takes the gun from ya and kills your little punk ass!
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Or I shoot him dead, either/or.
 
I have not heard of one mention of either mae or taser....
Would those of you who shrink from using a gun be more willing to employ a less lethal method of self protection?.....:confused:
 
I'm about 2 days late on chiming in, but I got through the first 3 pages and felt compelled to comment.

I don't think the article is saying that any women who is raped deserved it. Not in the slightest. I think the article is saying that women who place themselves in questionable situations should bare some responsibility for what happens to them, i.e., rape.

For example: I think we all can agree that no woman deserves to be beaten by their husband or boyfriend. Yet, how many women have continued to date/marry men whom they knew had a violent past? Not the same you say? Well, consider the woman who walks down a dark street alone at 2am, or who dresses with her top down to here and her skirt/dress up to there, or the woman who just has to be the life of the party and is always surrounded by men at every social event or night club she attends (I've seen it happen, folks!). Did these women deserve to be raped? No. But they placed themselves in very questionable positions in some cases sending off the wrong signals to men that they want to have more than just fun on any given night.

I totally agree that no matter the circumstance, no does mean NO! Thus, an honorable man who respects women will stop himself from going any further than the woman would allow. But...

The woman who dresses provocatively, walks alone at night with no regard for her safety or well-being or who practically throws herself at just about any good looking guy she sees is just asking for trouble. That's what the article is trying to convey.

Now, personally, I really don't have a problem with a woman dressing any way she darn well pleases. However, what I do have a problem with is said woman wearing say a tight red, low-cut dress w/clevage for days, fishnet stockings and 6-inch stelletos and then she wants to get upset with me for going all googley eyed at her. Well, what do you women expect us men to do when you walk around looking like that? C'mon, now. Let's be real...

(Some of) you walk around wearing your low-cut belly shirts and low-rider hip-hugger jeans that reveal the top of your thong and that well designed, well-illustrated "tramp-stamp" on your lower back...yet we're NOT suppose to look and drool over that?

Truth is, women bare some responsibility for such outcomes. You can't have it both ways. If you dress that provocative you should expect men to approach you in some very unwelcoming ways. That doesn't mean that women who dress in such ways are sending an invitation to be raped, but you should know that in dressing that way you are inviting some unwelcomed/unappreciated behavior from men.

My advise here is simple:

If you do have to walk home alone late night, take safety precautions, i.e., carry mace, get a loud noise-maker to alert the public you're in danger or take self-defense classes. If you meet a guy you like in a bar, you don't necessarily have to sleep with him the first night or on the first date. Take a little time to get to know him. You can bang his brains out later after you've become better acquainted. Of course, even such a delay doesn't guarantee that the guy isn't a wacko, but you increase your odds that he's not if you just take the time to get to know him (which might even involved getting to know some of his friends and/or family). If you don't want uninvited attention, dress down as my mother use to say. You can still look sexy without revealling so much of yourself. Sometimes, a little bit (of skin) goes a very long way. Sound old-fashioned...???...maybe, but I guarentee you'll be respected and very little harm will come of you by taking precautions and dressing in a more self-respecting and less provocative manner.
 
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Infinite Chaos said:
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I seem to remember a time when the mere fact a woman said "no" (and meant "NO") defined the boundaries - whatever the point in time in any sexual liasion. The man going beyond without permission was then commiting rape.

This latest survey seems to take backward steps for women and rape victims when it is widely acknowledged that prosections for rape in the UK have a poor record.
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The question should be "Why cant some men control themselves?"
Only the weak minded believe a woman bares any responsibility no matter she wears!

I guess by some people here its ok then to rape women at the beach, water parks and and public pools?
 
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misterman said:
Ironic misspelling.
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Oddly enough, and completely off topic, I've been noticing that misspelling or word misusage multiple times in this thread.

Instead of "bears", "bares".

And not the “bear” “bear”, but the “bear” “bear”.

You get the difference?

You can try to bear up under the mauling of a rabid/insane bears, but you might not be able to bear it…And being bare won’t help.

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/facepalm

The English language is so much fun…
 
The Mark said:
Oddly enough, and completely off topic, I've been noticing that misspelling or word misusage multiple times in this thread.

Instead of "bears", "bares".

And not the “bear” “bear”, but the “bear” “bear”.

You get the difference?
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Barely.

........
 
Goshin said:
Well, if you are a little punk-ass who can't pull the trigger on someone who is trying to rape you, maybe so. I don't know why you'd assume this would be the average person though.

OTOH if it is so easy to take guns away from people as I'm always hearing, then just snatch it back. :mrgreen:


It baffles me why some women would be so anti-gun, when a gun in hand is the simplest way for a woman to neutralize the physical advantages of a male attacker. Granted, you have to have the brass to pull the trigger, but I've trained lots of women shooters and have no doubts they would.
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I am not anti-gun and am armed now. I also have several other type of weapons in my home. I just saying it to jerk off cause he annoys me;)
 
Jerry said:
Or I shoot him dead, either/or.
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I just do not see it.. But ok.. :mrgreen:

You are scared of below stuff so no way in hell you would shoot someone. :2razz:
 
Kali said:
I just do not see it.. But ok.. :mrgreen:

You are scared of below stuff so no way in hell you would shoot someone. :2razz:
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"Scared of below stuff"? Wtf does that even mean? You mean scared of criminals?

Wtf is a "below stuff"? Like things in the next floor down :confused: :rofl
 
Gentlemen, yer askin fer it in a thread like this.
 
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