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Fox News Poll: Most Voters Say Allow Gays to Serve Openly

Fox uses an outside company called Opinion Dynamics to run their polls. At least they always used to. They have an office in San Francisco, not that that's at all relevant to polls abut gays.

I'm not sure where this poll was taken, but just because their office is in San Francisco doesn't mean that's the only place they called for opinions.

Here's the info from the article:
The national telephone poll was conducted for Fox News by Opinion Dynamics Corp. among 900 registered voters from February 2 to February 3. For the total sample, the poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
 
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All the better!

Gays and women with their faces uncovered beating them has to be degrading! I love it!

Just imagine how they view gay women with uncovered faces. They would probably start crying in defeat.
 
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I did not say retirees I said Veterans, they can be any age probably about 22 and up.....

Why 22? I have 17 year old Soldiers in my unit. Doesn't their opinion count?


I do think retirees should be polled to though

You are out. You don't count anymore. No one cares what you think.
 
Just imagine how they view gay women with uncovered faces. They would probably start crying in defeat.

I'm reminded of the Eddie Izzard bit, talking about a transvestite military unit. "Everyone knows that the most important element in combat...is the element of surprise!"

It's not an exact quote because that man takes ten minutes to get to the point, but goddamned if you aren't laughing the entire way.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPML-n1kRnY"]YouTube- Eddie Izzard: Army[/ame]
 
The armed forces are supposed to be pretty stoical, overall, which is one of their more admirable character qualities. I find the notion they are going to go to pieces over the inclusion of homosexuals in the ranks strange. You can't be stoical and sexually queasy.
 
American! Where are you, brother?

What say you???????
What do I say, I say Powell thought is was a great policy at the time, and anyone that says different is a moron.
 
What do I say, I say Powell thought is was a great policy at the time, and anyone that says different is a moron.

It was a great policy at the time. If attitudes had remained the same, then it probably still would be a good policy. But as more and more countries have allowed gays and lesbians to serve openly in their ranks and as more and more states have recognized gay rights (even if they don't necessarily recognize gay marriage), the policy has become outdated and even a little absurd.
 
Fox producer: no error in graphic; Media Matters responds - Michael Calderone - POLITICO.com

And a link to media matters that has the video as-aired

Fox News fiddles with climate change polling | Media Matters for America

The fact that these guys didn't notice while talking about it.... :facepalm:

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Media matters then I guess I will start using WND and news max
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So gays want this changed so the world can know they are gay. Newsflash no one cares what you do in private.
 
So gays want this changed so the world can know they are gay. Newsflash no one cares what you do in private.

I think gays would prefer to serve their country and not have to worry about being booted out simply because they're gay. Did you ever think about it from that point of view?
 
I think gays would prefer to serve their country and not have to worry about being booted out simply because they're gay. Did you ever think about it from that point of view?

Then don't go on Oprah Winfrie and announce it to the nation. Ever think of that?!? I mean, there's not alotta mystery to, "don't ask, don't tell".

It means, they can't ask and you don't have to tell, period. Why is such a simple concept so hard for some folks?
 
I think gays would prefer to serve their country and not have to worry about being booted out simply because they're gay. Did you ever think about it from that point of view?

If they don't tell everyone nothing will be done.
 
Then don't go on Oprah Winfrie and announce it to the nation. Ever think of that?!? I mean, there's not alotta mystery to, "don't ask, don't tell".

It means, they can't ask and you don't have to tell, period. Why is such a simple concept so hard for some folks?

You know what's even simpler? For everyone to act like adults and just deal with the fact that gays serve in the military.
 
If they don't tell everyone nothing will be done.

Why should anything be done if they tell someone? Why punish someone for being gay?

Here's how this is gonna go down. Eventually DADT is gonna be abolished. Then NOTHING happens in the military. Nothing changes.

And the people on the right stop squawking about it.
 
You know what's even simpler? For everyone to act like adults and just deal with the fact that gays serve in the military.

Well, we're talking about an orginization where three-quarters of it's members are under 30 years of age. Good luck with that working out the way you want.

How about you enlist and see if you can lead the way? Kinda makes you wish that all the Libbos weren't so anti-military all these years, huh?
 
What do I say, I say Powell thought is was a great policy at the time, and anyone that says different is a moron.

In other words, you agree with Powell AND you are calling Powell a moron? :mrgreen:
 
Well, we're talking about an orginization where three-quarters of it's members are under 30 years of age. Good luck with that working out the way you want.

How about you enlist and see if you can lead the way? Kinda makes you wish that all the Libbos weren't so anti-military all these years, huh?

We trust those men and women with tanks, jets, nuclear missiles, bombs, and fully automatic weapons. And three-quarters of them are under 30 years of age.

I'm pretty sure they're gonna be okay with some gay people around.
 
We trust those men and women with tanks, jets, nuclear missiles, bombs, and fully automatic weapons. And three-quarters of them are under 30 years of age.

I'm pretty sure they're gonna be okay with some gay people around.

For the sake of our service members and our national security, let's hope you are right.

Pouring millions into the military to build gay/straight only housing, just so we can bo cool, will have a negative affect. I mean, we all know how Liberals are opposed to military spending. You ****ers are going to freak out if we have to spend a hundred million bucks, just because gays and straights don't want to live in the same billets.
 
Why should anything be done if they tell someone? Why punish someone for being gay?

Here's how this is gonna go down. Eventually DADT is gonna be abolished. Then NOTHING happens in the military. Nothing changes.

And the people on the right stop squawking about it.

People don't care what is done in private. Why do gays think we want to know.
 
For the sake of our service members and our national security, let's hope you are right.

Pouring millions into the military to build gay/straight only housing, just so we can bo cool, will have a negative affect. I mean, we all know how Liberals are opposed to military spending. You ****ers are going to freak out if we have to spend a hundred million bucks, just because gays and straights don't want to live in the same billets.

They're the same excuses some people made when blacks were integrated into the military. Everybody got over it. And our military was stronger because of it.

It'll pass.
 
They're the same excuses some people made when blacks were integrated into the military. Everybody got over it. And our military was stronger because of it.

It'll pass.

Actually, it's not the same, but whatever. Ya'll been using that lame ass argument for years now. I'm sure you won't mind seeing you tax money go to new billets. You'll be excited, I'm sure, because you'll be getting what you want.
 
Actually, it's not the same, but whatever. Ya'll been using that lame ass argument for years now. I'm sure you won't mind seeing you tax money go to new billets. You'll be excited, I'm sure, because you'll be getting what you want.

They're not going to build separate housing for gay people. And even if they did, so what? What's a few Million more when we're still pissing away 10 BILLION per month in Iraq and Afghanistan?
 
Well, in that case, the guys at the top want it done so lets quit screwing around and do it already. The military is not a democracy, so nobody should really care what you, me, or Navy Pride think.

edit: Plus we all know the Navy is probably 60% gay already, right? We should be discussing whether to allow straight people to serve openly! :p

I reported this post...Lets hope it get you suspended or better yet banned......
 
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