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Ahmadinejad Says Iran Is Now a 'Nuclear State'

I think we act a bit myopic to suggest that Iran wants to sit at the table with the US. The ruling administration knows that their repression of human liberties is all over the front-page news. They know that regardless of what ever they pull from their sleeves the US will only reject their attempts because the Iranian regime is seen as juxtaposed to the very foundational morals of the US.

I suspect that the Iranian leaders are trying to coalesce its people, though in an almost amusingly feeble attempt. Iranians and their regime agree that the country should be allowed to right to nuclear energy, in whatever form it may take (though there seems to be, from the Green perspective, a tendency to differ from the ruling regime on the role the Western world is to take in talks of nuclear capabilities).
 
Everyone critiques Obama's cautious attitude toward the Iranian situation, yet no one offers any solutions.
 
I think we act a bit myopic to suggest that Iran wants to sit at the table with the US. The ruling administration knows that their repression of human liberties is all over the front-page news. They know that regardless of what ever they pull from their sleeves the US will only reject their attempts because the Iranian regime is seen as juxtaposed to the very foundational morals of the US.

I suspect that the Iranian leaders are trying to coalesce its people, though in an almost amusingly feeble attempt. Iranians and their regime agree that the country should be allowed to right to nuclear energy, in whatever form it may take (though there seems to be, from the Green perspective, a tendency to differ from the ruling regime on the role the Western world is to take in talks of nuclear capabilities).
I disagree, the Chinese sit at the table and break all kinds of human rights.
 
Nobody wants to do anything to North Korea. That's the point.
Hell, Pakistan can shelter OBL, route terrorists to Afghanistan to kill your countrymen, and not a bloody peep about invasion.
I wonder why.....

And again, you seem clueless as to WHY there isn't much "Let's go invade NK!!!" type talk...

You really should have an understanding of the situation before spouting off like this, makes you sound shrill.


Seoul, the Capital of South Korea, is a mere 50km from the DMZ. The NK have an estimated 35k-50k rocket and artillery tubes trained on the city. The war plan of NK is to start an all out barrage of the city. Assuming that the conflict remains purely conventional and doesn't include Bio or Chem shells out of the North, the Estimated causality count for the first HOUR of war shots being fired is around 50%. There are 19 Million people living in and around the city.

Now, you tell me, Mister "No one does ANYTHING about NK", don't ya feel JUST A WEE bit stupid for making such a comment?
 
God bless the Iranians and their nukes :mrgreen:

I bet you'l be cheering the nuclear rubble of Tel Aviv that would follow the success of Iranian Nukes too.


See, for you and the others with the "why can't they develop Nukes too" silliness.. The Iranian's aren't lead by sane folk, they show every indication of having the desire, and the ability TO USE said weapons offensively.
 
I bet you'l be cheering the nuclear rubble of Tel Aviv that would follow the success of Iranian Nukes too.


See, for you and the others with the "why can't they develop Nukes too" silliness.. The Iranian's aren't lead by sane folk, they show every indication of having the desire, and the ability TO USE said weapons offensively.

It's not our place to selectively crush dictatorships.
 
you say they exist where are they since you know they exist you must know exactly where they are

You said you knew they didn't exist. So I must presume you have been there and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that WMD's did not exist in Syria.
 
Non-interventionism is one thing, wishing for your enemy to achieve equal capabilities is another.

but you have yet to explain how that sentiment in any way is an un-libertarian one
 
I bet you'l be cheering the nuclear rubble of Tel Aviv that would follow the success of Iranian Nukes too.


See, for you and the others with the "why can't they develop Nukes too" silliness.. The Iranian's aren't lead by sane folk, they show every indication of having the desire, and the ability TO USE said weapons offensively.

your post is based on an over-the-top premise, that iranian nuclear capacity equals israel's demise

the more probable outcome is that iran will no longer find itself subject to threats of attack
 
Better selectively than randomly.

better yet to let those who are subject to the yoke of the dictator rise up on their own to bring about needed internal change
 
better yet to let those who are subject to the yoke of the dictator rise up on their own to bring about needed internal change
That's not an alternative.
It's already being done.
 
We must all keep in mind that the Radical Islamic Cultist who are in control in Iran want to bring about the End Times they believe in when their Savior the Mahdi will materialize at a time when the believers are severely oppressed in every corner of the world.

The current idiots running Iran want the end to come and the sooner the better for them.

In the past these radicals were band for their radical views that do not appear in the Koran they but are now firmly in power.

The people in Iran need outside help to overthrow these radicals but are very unlikely to get it from us as long as the Appeaser in Chief Obama is at the wheel her.

I don't believe Iran is a direct threat to the U.S. but they are a threat to a stable Middle East and any action they take of provoke could draw us into a fish or cut bait situation I would not like Obama to be the one to decide upon.
 
The announcement today comes just days after the most powerful leader of shia islam Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the following.

"the will of God is set for an end to the oppression in the region and the defeat of the hegemonic powers. Israel is going downhill toward decline and fall and God willing its obliteration is certain"

World Shia Leader: Destruction of Zionist Terrorist Regime, imminent

Is there anyone left who believes that Islam is a religion of peace when we have the religious leader of shia Islam making threats of obliteration towards Israel?
 
That kinda of thinking lead to WWII...

As if the US of the 30's had the ability to crush either Germany or Japan before they started their invasions. All we would've done would be to precipitate an earlier start for WWII.
 
As if the US of the 30's had the ability to crush either Germany or Japan before they started their invasions. All we would've done would be to precipitate an earlier start for WWII.
As if you are able to tell the result of a non-existing historic event.
 
As if you are able to tell the result of a non-existing historic event.

Since we're playing the hindsight game, why didn't President Cleveland send a hit team to Austria to kill Hitler's father before Hitler was conceived?
 
Since we're playing the hindsight game, why didn't President Cleveland send a hit team to Austria to kill Hitler's father before Hitler was conceived?
Because it's not like it was the 30's and Hitler was the great fuhrer of the third Reich, speaking of world dominance.


Bwue. :2razz:
 
better yet to let those who are subject to the yoke of the dictator rise up on their own to bring about needed internal change

Exactly like what happened in Germany around 1937? How did that work out for the rest of the world?
 
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