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Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

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Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes

Over the year, the Tea Party grew from dozens to hundreds of loosely linked groups around the country. But as it expanded, the protests became more partisan in nature, and the Tea Party established itself as an uprising to the right of the Republican Party. While independent voters were reacting against the polarization of the two major parties, the Tea Partiers wanted Republicans and Democrats to become more polarized, Avlon said.

"What happened over the course of the summer as the town hall [meetings] got hijacked, you started to see a new kind of activist taking over the Tea Party movement," Avlon said. "As the fringe has blurred with the base, you've seen more unhinged attacks proliferate, and there still hasn't been a transition to a positive agenda."

Some Tea Party members began directing their anger at Obama, calling him a socialist and carrying posters with his face altered to resemble Hitler or The Joker.
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The original notion of protesting overspending by both Republicans and Democrats appealed to me. Expressing my discontent with polarized, partisan politics in D.C., the need for congressional term limits--all things I could get behind...

But the first rally I went to in blue California last April had already been hijacked by far-right partisans and birthers. They didn't want to talk about common ground or bi-partisan efforts.

This morning I heard Dick Armey:

The grassroots activists' movement for small government is the biggest, most diversified and most tolerant expression of commitment to public policy principles in this country. The fact is if those people in Tennessee want to try a different approach, we're perfectly happy to let them try. It will be interesting to see how it succeeds. But it is not our effort, not our concern.

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Diversity -- absolutely, maybe too much so.

Tolerant -- hardly. Go to a Tea Party rally and tell them you're an independent who thinks the real problem is congress and special interests and not really the President.
 
You must really fear the Tea Party movement.
 
I think we should be content with the small minority of wingnuts that have hijacked the Tea Party movement. Let 'em whine. Who cares? I know the GOP is much better off without them.
 
hazlnut said:
Tolerant -- hardly. Go to a Tea Party rally and tell them you're an independent who thinks the real problem is congress and special interests and not really the President.
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Why have you been to one? :roll:
 
hazlnut said:
Fractures emerge as Tea Party convenes



The original notion of protesting overspending by both Republicans and Democrats appealed to me. Expressing my discontent with polarized, partisan politics in D.C., the need for congressional term limits--all things I could get behind...

But the first rally I went to in blue California last April had already been hijacked by far-right partisans and birthers. They didn't want to talk about common ground or bi-partisan efforts.

This morning I heard Dick Armey:



Diversity -- absolutely, maybe too much so.

Tolerant -- hardly. Go to a Tea Party rally and tell them you're an independent who thinks the real problem is congress and special interests and not really the President.
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Were these tea party people meeting and protesting BEFORE Obama won? Did they protest Bush and the GOP spending?

Just wondering...
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
You should read his post.

There's no comma after the first word.
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I'm not following you. This is what I see above:

But the first rally I went to in blue California last April had already been hijacked by far-right partisans and birthers. They didn't want to talk about common ground or bi-partisan efforts.

He's saying he went to a rally. How would you interpret that?
 
Winnb said:
That makes no sense. Do other posters have to notify you of every action they take?
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Lets see, did he mention in any of these?


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...itical-platforms/63109-tempest-tea-party.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/59629-tea-partiers-descend-capitol-hill.html


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...oup-caught-posting-fake-huge-crowd-photo.html





One would think that with all his bashing of the tea party movement, that this would not be the first we heard of him attending one almost a year ago.
 
MrVicchio said:
You must really fear the Tea Party movement.
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How do you get that from anything I said??

The original notion had potential.

The current "movement", hijacked by a mix of far-right fringe and partisan interests is impotent rage, baseless talking points, and Beckian conspiracy theories.

The GOP is not sure what to make of it--they seem to want to embrace it as their anti-Obama base, while distancing themselves from the fringe elements and bigotry.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Lets see, did he mention in any of these?


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...itical-platforms/63109-tempest-tea-party.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/59629-tea-partiers-descend-capitol-hill.html


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...oup-caught-posting-fake-huge-crowd-photo.html





One would think that with all his bashing of the tea party movement, that this would not be the first we heard of him attending one almost a year ago.
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Ah, so other posters DO have to notify you of everything they do. Well good. Now I know.

By the way, my wife and I are going out to dinner tonight. Probably Italian. Unless the weather is bad. If it is I'll PM ya and let you know we changed our plans.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Lets see, did he mention in any of these?


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...itical-platforms/63109-tempest-tea-party.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news/59629-tea-partiers-descend-capitol-hill.html


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...oup-caught-posting-fake-huge-crowd-photo.html




One would think that with all his bashing of the tea party movement, that this would not be the first we heard of him attending one almost a year ago.
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Talk about an empty argument. You really have nothing here.
 
Captain America said:
I think we should be content with the small minority of wingnuts that have hijacked the Tea Party movement. Let 'em whine. Who cares? I know the GOP is much better off without them.
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Tell that to the GOP -- the Tea Party is now like a mistress they're stringing along with promises of divorcing their moderate wife.

"I promise I'll leave her, just stay with me until the midterms."
 
Winnb said:
Ah, so other posters DO have to notify you of everything they do. Well good. Now I know.

By the way, my wife and I are going out to dinner tonight. Probably Italian. Unless the weather is bad. If it is I'll PM ya and let you know we changed our plans.
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I just think an honest argument is a better one. :shrug:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Why have you been to one? :roll:
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I already posted this, Rev -- last April, tax day. It was supposed to be about overspending in congress, fiscal responsibility, and term limits.

I got there and it was all about Obama is a socialist/Marxist from Africa.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
One would think that with all his bashing of the tea party movement, that this would not be the first we heard of him attending one almost a year ago.
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or we might htink he went and knows first hand that the tea baggers are a joke at best. They are trying to portray themselves as some kind of Patriot and are trying to tie their group into being the same as out fore fathers....
 
hazlnut said:
I already posted this, Rev -- last April, tax day. It was supposed to be about overspending in congress, fiscal responsibility, and term limits.

I got there and it was all about Obama is a socialist/Marxist from Africa.
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Man I find it hard to believe that with all your anti-tea party threads, that this is the first we are hearing of it....
 
pugetsoundwa said:
or we might htink he went and knows first hand that the tea baggers are a joke at best. They are trying to portray themselves as some kind of Patriot and are trying to tie their group into being the same as out fore fathers....
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We are patriots. Its the lunatic fringe leftists that have been quite treasonous to this great nation.


:shrug:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
We are patriots. Its the lunatic fringe leftists that have been quite treasonous to this great nation.


:shrug:
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Myself, I consider those on the side of liberty and personal freedoms to be patriots. Those who war monger, pollute and continually try to demonize the majority of the citizens of our great nation and divide from within are the anti-Americans.

Funny how reasonably intelligent people can be so polar in their opinion as to what is and what is not considered "patriotic."
 
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