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Palin Blasts Emanuel for Calling Dem Idea 'Retarded'

What is the percentages of the women in 20's compared to women in 40's having a child with Down's syndrome?
You seem to know so much about this subject.

So I ask again, what's so magic about 40? Why not 39, 38, etc?

By the way , only a coward punk uses expletives at someone on the computer.
In real life, you would not say that to my face, trust me.

Think whatever you want.
 
You wanted a number, I gave you one. The older a woman gets the greater chance of DS.

So why is your number any better than mine, or Palin's? What's magic about 40?
 
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Let's keep it civil. No need for expletives and whatnot.

Why the focus on expletives though, when there is so much incredibly uncivil talk that doesn't involve them?
 
If USA-1 is such a brave boy, then he should get off his computer and go tell that old couple what retards they were for having that Downs Syndrome kid.
 
No, but the odds are against it. I know a family that had 12 kids and the last one had DS. Instead of looking forward to a peaceful retirement they are still taking care of their child into their 80s. When they are gone, one of their other kids will have to do it. Some times it is best to use a little common sense when it comes to planning a family.

First of all, it was their choice. Do you not get that?

Second, there are plenty of alternatives for people with Down syndrome today, they don't have to live with parents. Many live in group homes or their own apartments.

Third, its not like there are kids without Down syndrome living with their parents. Plenty of them are failures who can't keep a job or off drugs.

You can't control everything in your life. Plenty of parents in their 20s had kids with Down syndrome, and plenty of parents in the 40s have kids without DS. It's easy for you to sit in front of your computer and lecture people, especially when you don't know that much about what you're talking about.
 
Second, there are plenty of alternatives for people with Down syndrome today, they don't have to live with parents. Many live in group homes or their own apartments.
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Taxpayers pay for that? If so, then it is my business.
 
You can't control everything in your life. Plenty of parents in their 20s had kids with Down syndrome, and plenty of parents in the 40s have kids without DS. It's easy for you to sit in front of your computer and lecture people, especially when you don't know that much about what you're talking about.

They had the choice to have another baby even though the odds of having a DS baby were great. They did have control. Sarah had control. Getting pregnant can be controlled.
 
If USA-1 is such a brave boy, then he should get off his computer and go tell that old couple what retards they were for having that Downs Syndrome kid.

They already know.
 
Taxpayers pay for that? If so, then it is my business.

Taxpayers pay for alot of things, for regular kids too. Should we have a limit on how many kids you can have because you send them to public schools, for instance?

And you may have a kid with a disability someday, no matter how hard you try (for the kid's sake I hope not, but it could happen). Or a grandchild. Most disabilities can't be diagnosed before birth, such as autism. If that happens, you will have access to those group homes too. That's the extent to which it is your business.
 
They had the choice to have another baby even though the odds of having a DS baby were great. They did have control. Sarah had control. Getting pregnant can be controlled.

But if she had been 39, you'd be perfectly fine with her getting pregnant, right? Even though the odds are still really high at that age.

Why the magic number 40?
 
They already know.

Go tell them, to their face, tough guy. Better yet, tell some younger parents. I know a Marine in his 20s whose first kid has DS. I'd love to see his reaction.

Then you need to go tell every parent who had a kid when the mom was over 40 that they're idiots too, even if they didn't end up with a kid with Down syndrome, since they took the same risk. Get to work.
 
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One result of, Mental Retardation is the inability to learn. Institutions some time are thought of as, learning organizations .Like in the , "Fifth Discipline". The republican and democratic partys both definetly display , A large degree of," Institutional Retardation". Orginazations- that simply cannot learn.
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Why the focus on expletives though, when there is so much incredibly uncivil talk that doesn't involve them?

I thought it was against forum rules to comment on moderation up here....
Personal attacks using expletives notwithstanding.....;)
 
One result of, Mental Retardation is the inability to learn.

Well, not quite. People with Down syndrome go to college these days, by the way.
 
I thought it was against forum rules to comment on moderation up here....
Personal attacks using expletives notwithstanding.....;)

He has a mentally handicapped child, why not give him a little leeway okay? It's a personal and emotion issue, obviously.

I don't like the turn this thread has taken. It's gone from arguing the semantics of speech and the whole Palin angle on it, to posting pictures of Downs kids and saying that they shouldn't have been born.
 
Doctors do it all the time.


No they don't. They may offer genetic counseling, the choice to accept counseling or not is up to the parents. Ask the Duggars.



There are many couples who have family history of genetic defects that decide to adopt to avoid a "possibility" of having a child with a disability.
Would they be retarded in thinking that way too?

And it is not at all about having a "normal" child that can someday be in a beauty contest like Sarah it is about not putting a child through possible multi medical procedures and shorten lifespan.

But you know what, it is a free country and you can decide how much of a chance you want to take with your offspring. Have at it.


And many families are so grateful for the Downs Syndrome children that have come into their lives. Not every parent is strong enough to accept this, but many welcome such children. Such as that couple in Florida who were murdered this year. They adopted many Down Syndrome children. They WANTED these people in their lives.
 
Go tell them, to their face, tough guy. Better yet, tell some younger parents. I know a Marine in his 20s whose first kid has DS. I'd love to see his reaction.

Then you need to go tell every parent who had a kid when the mom was over 40 that they're idiots too, even if they didn't end up with a kid with Down syndrome, since they took the same risk. Get to work.

Life is full of risks. I think the modern tendency to try to eliminate all risk is a bad development that has wussified our culture, squelched creativity, and taken away our human freedoms.
 
No they don't. They may offer genetic counseling, the choice to accept counseling or not is up to the parents. Ask the Duggars.






And many families are so grateful for the Downs Syndrome children that have come into their lives. Not every parent is strong enough to accept this, but many welcome such children. Such as that couple in Florida who were murdered this year. They adopted many Down Syndrome children. They WANTED these people in their lives.

The Downs Syndrome 'defect' usually produces very sweet people. It's one of the traits of these people.
 
He has a mentally handicapped child, why not give him a little leeway okay? It's a personal and emotion issue, obviously.

Thanks. I'd say let the kids have a break, regardless of whether someone like me is around to shame them into it.

And it's not just an emotional issue. I know there's alot of really bad information that people throw around about it.
 
No they don't. They may offer genetic counseling, the choice to accept counseling or not is up to the parents. Ask the Duggars.

And genetic counselors usually don't say "you're retarded if you have a kid" like USA-1 did.

And many families are so grateful for the Downs Syndrome children that have come into their lives. Not every parent is strong enough to accept this, but many welcome such children. Such as that couple in Florida who were murdered this year. They adopted many Down Syndrome children. They WANTED these people in their lives.

There is a waiting list for adopting them.

I know one thing, the world would be a better place with more people with DS and fewer people like certain members of this thread. Perhaps someday we'll have a genetic test for that kind too though.
 
Life is full of risks. I think the modern tendency to try to eliminate all risk is a bad development that has wussified our culture, squelched creativity, and taken away our human freedoms.

Yep. Having a kid is an enormous risk, at any age. Anything can happen to them. They can become drug addicts, get autism, mental illness, a severe disease, brain injury, become a child molester or mass murderer, whatever. Down syndrome is hardly the worst thing that can occur, it just happens to occur early.
 
And genetic counselors usually don't say "you're retarded if you have a kid" like USA-1 did.

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Nothing like putting words in my mouth.
All I said was the risk of having a DS child increases greatly with age of the mother. Education should be the goal so people can make informed, rational decisions about having another baby. Palin is in a great position to further that education, instead she is using it to further her own career. She was supposed to be educated enough to realize having another baby at her age could very well lead to a baby with downs syndrome.
 
Nothing like putting words in my mouth.

I apologize. Crosscheck said that, not you.

All I said was the risk of having a DS child increases greatly with age of the mother. Education should be the goal so people can make informed, rational decisions about having another baby.

I agree with that.
 
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