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Palin Blasts Emanuel for Calling Dem Idea 'Retarded'

jallman said:
Do you have anything to back up that assertion?

Do you have anything to back up that assertion.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl1101

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Last week, the Wall Street Journal reported that Emanuel, exasperated upon learning that liberal special-interest groups were planning to run ads against conservative Democrats not supportive of health care reform, blasted the plan as "f------ retarded" over the summer. Naturally, some outrage ensued after Emanuel's words came to light, with former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin taking to her Facebook page to call on President Obama to fire him for what she saw as the equivalent of a racial slur.


Palin, whose son Trig is afflicted with Down syndrome, said she was informed of Emanuel's comment by a fellow parent of a special-needs child and pleaded with the president to "show decency" to the political process by "eliminating" the Chicago native from his inner circle.
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1. The article was run by the WSJ last week.
2. Palin said she was informed of it by somebody who read the article.

Do you have anything to back up that assertion?
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Timing, circumstance & target. You know, it is one thing for you to be in love with this lady. It is another when you refuse to even admit the possibility that she might not be as golden to the rest of the world as she is to Republicans in Alaska. Just admit it Jallman, she's doing this the same way Al Sharpton uses any reason to be seen in the spotlight.
 
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I didn't hear about it until I saw it here either, but I still complained.
 
misterman said:
I didn't hear about it until I saw it here either, but I still complained.
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Did you go on national television and make a spectacle of yourself over his comments? No? Why not? I know you can't. But if you knew Rahm Emanuel personally. What would you do? Go on national television and complain? Or privately address him? I'd do the second. Doing the first would make me look like I'm trying to achieve something. And Palin sure as hell is. Her target, timing and the circumstance surrounding her outburst are all indicative of her motives.
 
Hatuey said:
Obama chief of staff’s 'retarded' insult brings fallout, Palin criticism - Yahoo! News

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1. The article was run by the WSJ last week.
2. Palin said she was informed of it by somebody who read the article.



Timing, circumstance & target. You know, it is one thing for you to be in love with this lady. It is another when you refuse to even admit the possibility that she might not be as golden to the rest of the world as she is to Republicans in Alaska. Just admit it Jallman, she's doing this the same way Al Sharpton uses any reason to be seen in the spotlight.
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Do you have any evidence of this assertion you are making? Or are you just making conjectures about her motivations; something which you CANNOT prove unless you've developed mind reading powers that the rest of us have not.

Thank you for pointing out the part about her having it brought to light by someone else and how it clarifies what prompted her to speak out about it. Just further proof that she was simply championing a cause that is obviously very close to her.

And there's certainly nothing wrong with that.
 
Hatuey said:
Her target, timing and the circumstance surrounding her outburst are all indicative of her motives.
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Her Target: A man known to be a classless thug in a high public office.
Her Timing: After being made aware of it
The Circumstance: Having a special needs kid of her own and having it brought to her by the parent of a special needs kid
Her Alleged Outburst: A blog posting on facebook. :roll:

Yeah it seems pretty clear her motives are crystal clear...to comment (you know, she is a commentator now) on issues that affect the American public (you know, she was a politician) and from her own experience (because you know, she is a human being).

So...what were your thoughts on her motives...since obviously you can determine them despite what she and all the evidence say they are?
 
Hatuey said:
Did you go on national television and make a spectacle of yourself over his comments?
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Did she go on national TV and make a spectacle of herself over his comments? I was under the impression she made a blog post on facebook. Perhaps you know something else that I don't...
 
jallman said:
Do you have any evidence of this assertion you are making? Or are you just making conjectures about her motivations; something which you CANNOT prove unless you've developed mind reading powers that the rest of us have not.
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What are you talking about? I just provided the evidence.

Thank you for pointing out the part about her having it brought to light by someone else and how it clarifies what prompted her to speak out about it. Just further proof that she was simply championing a cause that is obviously very close to her.

And there's certainly nothing wrong with that.
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The amount of :spin: on this is quite amazing. So what you are saying is that Palin didn't do this for political reasons? Rush Limbaugh is now using the word on his show and not a SINGLE word from Palin over its use. That alone is proof enough that she went after Emanuel for political reasons alone.
 
Hatuey said:
What are you talking about? I just provided the evidence.
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No, you did not. You made conjectures but you provided no evidence.

The amount of :spin: on this is quite amazing. So what you are saying is that Palin didn't do this for political reasons? Rush Limbaugh is now using the word on his show and not a SINGLE word from Palin over its use. That alone is proof enough that she went after Emanuel for political reasons alone.
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No it isn't. It may be proof that she finds Rush Limbaugh irrelevant.

You're shallow and self serving analysis is retarded.

ZOMGWTF if the next post isn't Palin condeming my use of the word retarded, then she's just political and hypocritical. :roll:
 
jallman said:
Her Target: A man known to be a classless thug in a high public office.
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And what does that have to do with the issue?

Her Timing: After being made aware of it
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One week late and word of mouth. People regularly use the word retarded on television and I've never seen Palin show public outrage at it.

The Circumstance: Having a special needs kid of her own and having it brought to her by the parent of a special needs kid
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A week late, heard from 2nd hand and nearly 8-9 months after it happened.

Her Alleged Outburst: A blog posting on facebook. :roll:
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Which has now made its way to FOX News. The company that Palin just happens to be working for. Coincidence I guess.

Yeah it seems pretty clear her motives are crystal clear...to comment (you know, she is a commentator now) on issues that affect the American public (you know, she was a politician) and from her own experience (because you know, she is a human being).

So...what were your thoughts on her motives...since obviously you can determine them despite what she and all the evidence say they are?
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No. I think the fact that she got so insulted by it that she now demands Rahm Emanuel to be fired is quite indicative of her motives. She is asking the people she lost to to fire one of their own because she wants to pretend she truly is insulted by something she heard from somebody who read an article a week ago on something that happened 8 months ago.
 
Hatuey said:
The amount of :spin: on this is quite amazing. So what you are saying is that Palin didn't do this for political reasons? Rush Limbaugh is now using the word on his show and not a SINGLE word from Palin over its use. That alone is proof enough that she went after Emanuel for political reasons alone.
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It would be more accurate to say she's laying off Limbaugh for political reasons. She has every right to criticize Emanuel, though she went way overboard in calling for him to resign. Emanuel was being a massive, immature, asshole, just like anyone who would use innocent helpless people to represent an insult, not to mention mock them openly. Don't you think?
 
jallman said:
No, you did not. You made conjectures but you provided no evidence.
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You're trying very hard to ignore it aren't you?

No it isn't. It may be proof that she finds Rush Limbaugh irrelevant.
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Rush Interviews Governor Sarah Palin

RUSH: We are going to open this hour with a rare personal interview, a rare guest. It doesn't happen much on this program, but we are happy to have with us former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, whose book, Going Rogue, hits the shelves today and it's already headed for I think a record in sales. Governor Palin, thanks for making time. It's great to talk to you again. We spoke last Thursday in an interview for the Limbaugh Letter, but it's great to have you here on the radio.
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You know that is not true.
 
misterman said:
It would be more accurate to say she's laying off Limbaugh for political reasons. She has every right to criticize Emanuel, though she went way overboard in calling for him to resign. Emanuel was being a massive, immature, asshole, just like anyone who would use innocent helpless people to represent an insult, not to mention mock them openly. Don't you think?
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He didn't openly mock anybody. He called a few people retarded behind closed doors. That you are trying to lie about the circumstance surrounding the use of the word is quite telling. More phony outrage I guess.
 
Hatuey said:
He didn't openly mock anybody. He called a few people retarded behind closed doors. That you are trying to lie about the circumstance surrounding the use of the word is quite telling. More phony outrage I guess.
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I wasn't talking about him.
 
Hatuey said:
And what does that have to do with the issue?
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That there may have already been some previous motivation there? I dunno, it was worth pointing out that he already had a reputation for inciting controversy.

One week late and word of mouth.
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Exactly. After she was made aware of it. Thank you for conceding that.

People regularly use the word retarded on television and I've never seen Palin show public outrage at it.
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Hold up!!! Stop the presses!!!! Politician takes exception to the words of a rival faction's politician before going after the South Park kids. Who knew?


A week late, heard from 2nd hand and nearly 8-9 months after it happened.
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The first week day after the story was brought to her attention after it making the news for the first time. I don't see anything odd about that. But of course, I'm not creating issues to smear someone with, either, so....:shrug:


Which has now made its way to FOX News. The company that Palin just happens to be working for. Coincidence I guess.
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Wait!!! Stop the presses again!!!! FNC makes story out of pundit's comments. Who knew?

No. I think the fact that she got so insulted by it that she now demands Rahm Emanuel to be fired is quite indicative of her motives. She is asking the people she lost to to fire one of their own because she wants to pretend she truly is insulted by something she heard from somebody who read an article a week ago on something that happened 8 months ago.
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OK, I just fail to see how she was made aware of it has any bearing on her motives. If she heard it, read it, saw it, signed it, got it through a medium...that doesn't change the fact that she is responding to something that did happen and made the news.

Red herring much?
 
jallman said:
Hold up!!! Stop the presses!!!! Politician takes exception to the words of a rival faction's politician before going after the South Park kids. Who knew?
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She is going to campaign with the Perry campaign THIS weekend. An aide to Perry has used RETARDED repeatedly, and Ted Nugent, who will also be campaigning for Perry this weekend used the word RETARDED as well. She has not called for Perry to fire the aide, and she has not called for Ted Nugent to be cast out from the campaign.


You just *admitted* that she selectively calls out the other side. EXACTLY what she is is being mocked for in this thread.


Oh yea, and *your* use of the (horrors!) epithet 'RETARDED' gives lie to your outrage over Emanueal using it.

*Palin and Palinstas* .....
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Palin hypocrisy entry number seventy-eleven-hundred-and-five.


Addresses Rush's 'retard' tirade, but fails both to a.) call for Rush to be fired, and b.) mention Rush by name. :rolleyes:


Limbaugh 'Retard' Rant 'Crude And Demeaning': Palin
... but doesn't call for firing, as with Rahm Emanuel
By Will McCahill| Posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
Updated 2 hours, 40 minutes ago


(Newser) – Sarah Palin proved today to be a defender of political correctness no matter which side of aisle the assault comes from, ripping Rush Limbaugh for his use of “retard.” However, while the former Alaska governor, and mother of a special-needs child, “believes crude and demeaning name calling at the expense of others is disrespectful,” a staffer tells Greg Sargent, she doesn’t want Limbaugh fired—unlike White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, who first provoked her ire.

Via Twitter, Jonathan Martin of Politico noted the fact that the Palin flak didn’t actually mention Limbaugh by name. “Perhaps,” adds Matt Corley at ThinkProgress, “the Palin camp avoided naming Limbaugh because they are like the other Republicans who are fearful of criticizing and offending the conservative talker.”

Sarah Palin Calls Limbaugh's 'Retard' Rant 'Crude and Demeaning,' But Doesn't Call for His Firing (as With Rahm Emanuel)
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misterman said:
This will interest some on this thread and enlighten others:

washingtonpost.com
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My local news just this evening had a story about a 'borderline mentally retarded' man who was a danger in the community.

(snip ... )

During his last time in court, Ricci told officials he would quote "kill a woman after he rapes her in order to get the treatment he needs."
Ricci is not a registered sex offender... but Police say he is a danger to the public.

That's why Portland Police handed out four hundred fliers in his neighborhood letting them know about his criminal history and his mental state.
http://www.wgme.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wgme_vid_2333.shtml
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They do not use the word 'retarded' in this written story, and instead only refer to his 'mental state'. On air, they referred to him as mildly mentally retarded.
 
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Just like clockwork. As soon as you catch the other camp making a blunder and you run it up the flagpole then one of your own pit crew members comes out and does the same thing.......

This reminds me of the hysteria over one's side having a sexual tryst and soon after some numbskull on your team gets caught with his pants down.

It is interesting but I can't ever remember a female politician in the US getting caught with her dress down.
 
Crosscheck said:
Just like clockwork. As soon as you catch the other camp making a blunder and you run it up the flagpole then one of your own pit crew members comes out and does the same thing.......

This reminds me of the hysteria over one's side having a sexual tryst and soon after some numbskull on your team gets caught with his pants down.

It is interesting but I can't ever remember a female politician in the US getting caught with her dress down.
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I think women obsessed with power become more frigid. Men obsessed with power instinctively seek to spread their seed with multiple partners in their position as an alpha male.
 
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