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First Poll after SOTU shows very high approval

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The first poll after the SOTU shows high approval in pretty much all counts, except faith that he can implement his vision.

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_SOTU_012710.pdf

I am curious about the results of the rest of the polls but it looks like they haven't been published yet.
 
just give it a little time for that to get dragged back down again. it'll be spun and the original message will all be lost. every night Fox will broadcast Charles Krauthammer (as well as the rest of the Weakly Standard gang) explaining to us to pay no attention to what Obama is actually saying or doing. they are expert mind readers and that they can actually know what Obama is thinking. and what Obama is thinking about is his Chicago underworld criminal friends, his own vanity, and socialism. and then all the American sheep again will say, "baaaaaaaaaaaa!" ... "baaaaaaaaaaad!"
 
Why wouldn't they be, he said all things to all people. He's going to let businesses create jobs but he's going to tax businesses, he's going to freeze spending but it's not going to be frozen until next year, he supports TARP but the deficit is Bush's fault, blah blah blah. It'll all be exposed in November.
 
A CBS poll showing Obama in good light?

Who'd anticipate that? What did they do, poll their news room?
 
A CBS poll showing Obama in good light?

Who'd anticipate that? What did they do, poll their news room?

CBS is usually pretty accurate. Here is an example. If you look at an aggregate of all polling for Obama's job approval over at pollster.com, you will see an approval of 48.6 and if you look at just CBS polls, his approval is 49.1. This is within the margin of error.
 
CBS is usually pretty accurate. Here is an example. If you look at an aggregate of all polling for Obama's job approval over at pollster.com, you will see an approval of 48.6 and if you look at just CBS polls, his approval is 49.1. This is within the margin of error.

Shhh the right are use to polls adding up to 140+%! Dont confuse the right too much!
 
How can a poll showing approval be accurate when Obama promised to push a bill that 80% of the country is opposed to and lied, saying that there's overwhelming evidence that global warming exists? Accurate my ass!
 
Obama has come to the American people in his Hate of the Union Speech with so much B.S. it would be funny if it were not so blatantly counter to what he has done so far. He makes claims to do things that are clearly at odds with his goals. He will continue to do this if he is not shut down by the truth and what he does not what he claims he is doing.

Obama is without question Anti-American and he uses false claims of patriotism to promote his agenda of Socialism.
I ask you what has this Socialist/Communist done that makes sense and is in the true interests of America.
The answer is nothing.

While watching this propaganda speech I noted that C-Span was careful to show only 99% of the Dems in support of what was said.

No surprise there. The Dems are in decline because Obama and they will do what ever they can to promote this loser who has no track record of accomplishment in his life, other than the promotion of a socialist agenda in his work as a community organizer. He has supported the take over of industries in the same vane as Hugo Chavez.

I have never been a big fan of Glenn Beck but it is clear that he gets it right when he points out that Obama and Chavez are on the same game plan.

There ae some who will claim that Jesus is on the side of the Obama Liberals. But be ware thse people are simply lashing out.

Obama being a member of the cult of Islam is obligated to do or say what ever he has too to make his point and to do what ever he can to make his point regardless of the truth or the facts of his real agenda.
 
How can a poll showing approval be accurate when Obama promised to push a bill that 80% of the country is opposed to and lied, saying that there's overwhelming evidence that global warming exists? Accurate my ass!

If this is true than the multitude of polls that are going to come out over the next week will show that. Right now though, this is the only one that I can find that has been published.
 
He gives a speech, his numbers go up.

Amazing. Forget his earlier speeches are just that...speeches. The American public so TV affected, wanting to believe what they hear.

The false prophet was so tired last night....McDonnell did an excellent job in rebuttal now...there is a potential 2012 candidate from my great state of Virginia.
 
He gives a speech, his numbers go up.

Amazing. Forget his earlier speeches are just that...speeches. The American public so TV affected, wanting to believe what they hear.

The false prophet was so tired last night....McDonnell did an excellent job in rebuttal now...there is a potential 2012 candidate from my great state of Virginia.

Only in your mind;)

Unless the economy has an even worse crash than '08, or we get attacked on our home soil, the man is going to easily win a second term. You have to remember, people vote based on their savings account and wallet. If you have as much or more money in them than before (during the previous term), its almost guaranteed.
 
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Only in your mind;)

Unless the economy has an even worse crash than '08, or we get attacked on our home soil, the man is going to easily win a second term. You have to remember, people vote based on their savings account and wallet. If you have as much or more money in them than before, its almost guaranteed.

Yep. That's pretty much how Reagan won. He asked if you were better off than you were before. We have 3 years to go, as the saying goes, that's forever in political time.
 
Only in your mind;)

Unless the economy has an even worse crash than '08, or we get attacked on our home soil, the man is going to easily win a second term. You have to remember, people vote based on their savings account and wallet. If you have as much or more money in them than before, its almost guaranteed.

PBO has:

Pushed an agenda that is obviously being rejected.

Pushing the lie that is global warming.

Killed jobs.

Further wrecked the economy.

People are worse off now than they were a year ago.

and you think he has a snowball's chance in hell of getting re-elected?...:rofl
 
CBS is usually pretty accurate. Here is an example. If you look at an aggregate of all polling for Obama's job approval over at pollster.com, you will see an approval of 48.6 and if you look at just CBS polls, his approval is 49.1. This is within the margin of error.

Overall, 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President's performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove. These updates are based upon nightly telephone interviews and reported on a three-day rolling average basis. The overwhelming majority of interviews for today’s update were completed before the President’s speech last night.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports
 
Further wrecked the economy.

Given your lack of knowledge on the subject, ill take this opinion with a grain of salt. ;)

People are worse off now than they were a year ago.

Consumer sentiment is at a 16 month high.

The banking system has been stabilized.

There have been no tax increases.

I can line simple sentences too! The fact of the matter is, your opinion is grounded in ideology (and nothing more).:2wave:
 
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Given your lack of knowledge on the subject, ill take this opinion with a grain of salt. ;)

Consumer sentiment is at a 16 month high.

The banking system has been stabilized.

There have been no tax increases.

I can line simple sentences too! The fact of the matter is, your opinion is grounded in ideology (and nothing more).:2wave:

What's the unemployment rate doing now? What about that 17% dump in house sales? Yeah, your boy's doing a fiiiine job at fixing the economy. Now, he wants a jobs bill? How many billions will that cost, with no return?

What's the reaction to Obamacare?

And all you have are insults and an undocumented stat that doesn't mean **** anyway?
 
What's the unemployment rate doing now? What about that 17% dump in house sales? Yeah, your boy's doing a fiiiine job at fixing the economy. Now, he wants a jobs bill? How many billions will that cost, with no return?

What's the reaction to Obamacare?

And all you have are insults and an undocumented stat that doesn't mean **** anyway?

Well the last one worked perfectly. $800B of political patronage was a dream come true for Obama. Forget about the unemployment rate, it doesn't mean anything, even though 7 million jobs were lost, we actually created 2 million. Why wouldn't we do that again?
 
The first poll after the SOTU shows high approval in pretty much all counts, except faith that he can implement his vision.

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_SOTU_012710.pdf

I am curious about the results of the rest of the polls but it looks like they haven't been published yet.

Polls taken after SOTU speeches don't count. Even Bush had great approval ratings after his SOTU speeches.

NOTE: Why do presidents' approval ratings go up after SOTU speeches? Because the nation really does want to come together, and this is the best time to show that. In actual practice, though, it never really happens, so Obama's ratings will come back down to earth very soon, just as Bush's did.
 
What's the unemployment rate doing now?

Lagging indicator....

What about that 17% dump in house sales?

What about it?

Yeah, your boy's doing a fiiiine job at fixing the economy. Now, he wants a jobs bill? How many billions will that cost, with no return?

First off he is not "my boy". Secondly, the alternative of which you propose did not work during a past recession. This was prior to the implosion of the the consumer debt bubble (negative savings rates). Therefore supply side economics will not fix a demand orientated dilemma.

What's the reaction to Obamacare?

Nothing compared to the cost of health care inflation. This is a fact APDST.

And all you have are insults and an undocumented stat that doesn't mean **** anyway?

What insult have i given you? Consumer confidence means nothing? Than why is it reported?
 
Well the last one worked perfectly. $800B of political patronage was a dream come true for Obama.

How much of the $800 billion has been appropriated? Secondly, what does a weaker dollar achieve in regards to imports?

Forget about the unemployment rate, it doesn't mean anything, even though 7 million jobs were lost, we actually created 2 million. Why wouldn't we do that again?

You cannot deny the psychological effect of the worlds biggest economies rushing to offer stimulus packages.
 
Lagging indicator....

Why is going up?...lol



What about it?

Oh, so in Liberal-land, negative numbers don't count. Right?



First off he is not "my boy". Secondly, the alternative of which you propose did not work during a past recession. This was prior to the implosion of the the consumer debt bubble (negative savings rates). Therefore supply side economics will not fix a demand orientated dilemma.

The government can't create jobs. Any attempt to do so will be a debacle.



Nothing compared to the cost of health care inflation. This is a fact APDST.

Obamacare isn't going to fix that problem and most of the country knows it.



What insult have i given you? Consumer confidence means nothing? Than why is it reported?

Let's see a link.
 
How much of the $800 billion has been appropriated? Secondly, what does a weaker dollar achieve in regards to imports?

The dollar statement is odd and cryptic. There was a decline in dollar value as foreign investors exited from treasuries they had rushed into during the panic days of the recession. I don't know what that has to do with Obama's policy.

You cannot deny the psychological effect of the worlds biggest economies rushing to offer stimulus packages.[/QUOTE]

Psychological effects like long term interest rates floating up until the fed started buying longer dated treasuries instead of just acting in the repo market like they normally do? No I don't deny those.
 
Why is it going up?...lol

Cyclical unemployment tends to lag overall market sentiment. After firms shore up their balance sheets, they will tend to invest in capital first, and labor second (unless they can get a steal of a deal:2razz: ). Once capital investment plateaus, unemployment will go down.

Oh, so in Liberal-land, negative numbers don't count. Right?

Now im a liberal? I swear every day i get called a "righty" or a "lefty" by both sides of the spectrum. Usually it is by those on the extreme ends of the field. Housing slumped this month, i can agree. I do not believe it will continue to fall.

But what is the end result of higher prices?

The government can't create jobs. Any attempt to do so will be a debacle.

What did the government do during WWII? Did it create jobs?

Obamacare isn't going to fix that problem and most of the country knows it.

Opinionated :spin:

Let's see a link.

I made a thread yesterday, you must not have been reading to closely....

Here is a nice link here ya go
 
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