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Obama to call for 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' repeal, adviser says

misterman said:
I'm not surprised that you completely and totally miss the point.

Do you think it would be okay for the Navy to ban Catholics from service? No? Why not?
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So your not making the comparison of gays and catholics...:rofl Why don't you quit while your only losing by a little bit......:rofl
 
Boo Radley said:
I doubt this, but even if true, it's not their call. We all have to deal with things we don't want. Being an adult is dealing with it.
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You calling me a Liar...did you read the rules of the forum before you started running your mouth.......You can be banned........Since your calling names I am done with you now........Save the energy and don't respond to my posts anymore......You won't geet and answer.......Grow up..........
 
Navy Pride said:
You calling me a Liar...did you read the rules of the forum before you started running your mouth.......You can be banned........Since your calling names I am done with you now........Save the energy and don't respond to my posts anymore......You won't geet and answer.......Grow up..........
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I said I doubt it. I do. However, I didn't call you anything. But it doesn't matter. As I said:

. . . even if true, it's not their call. We all have to deal with things we don't want. Being an adult is dealing with it.
 
Redress said:
And if I met you in real life, I would probably call you "chief"...or "senior" or whatever is appropriate. However, that has nothing to do with the attitudes of most people in the military.
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The point is if your a CPO its for life......Every chief in that chief quarters that knew me called me chief..........I will die as a chief and my ashes will be spread on the Pacific Ocean as a Chief, just like I did when I was on active duty for my fellow chiefs who had passed away........

I disagree Redress the opinion of those chiefs are very important.......
 
Redress said:
And again, this does not mean much. Most people in the navy are not chiefs, and in fact are much younger. Younger people have a much more relaxed attitude towards gays. Anecdotal evidence is not worth a whole lot.
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As I did when I was young and inexperienced....I was very liberal......As I grew older and wiser, got married, had children . I put away my childish beliefs and pick up beliefs that were more based on morals and on my creator......You may not but most people change............
 
Boo Radley said:
I said I doubt it. I do. However, I didn't call you anything. But it doesn't matter. As I said:

. . . even if true, it's not their call. We all have to deal with things we don't want. Being an adult is dealing with it.
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OK I will give you another chance.......How do you have to deal with gays serving openly in the navy aboard ship?:confused:
 
Navy Pride said:
As I did when I was young and inexperienced....I was very liberal......As I grew older and wiser, got married, had children . I put away my childish beliefs and pick up beliefs that were more based on morals and on my creator......You may not but most people change............
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Good for you. Why should someone else not be allowed in the military because of your beliefs?
 
Navy Pride said:
I was aboard a carrier this morning and had breakfast in the Chiefs quarters and discussed DADT with several of my fellow chiefs and to a man they said they can not speak for other services but it won't work for the Navy.........
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Did you talk to any blacks or women? It wasn't long ago when the exact same thing was said about them.
 
misterman said:
Good for you. Why should someone else not be allowed in the military because of your beliefs?
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They shouldn't but if it disrupts the mession of our military and I believe that is the case especially in the Navy then DADT should be retained....Don't know what your talking about "allowed in the military" because they are already in.......I know that because 14,500 have been discharged since 1993..........
 
misterman said:
Did you talk to any blacks or women? It wasn't long ago when the exact same thing was said about them.
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Come up with something new for once in your life....those talking points are old and stale and have been addressed many times in this thread........
 
Navy Pride said:
I was aboard a carrier this morning and had breakfast in the Chiefs quarters and discussed DADT with several of my fellow chiefs and to a man they said they can not speak for other services but it won't work for the Navy.........
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And if the law was repealed... would they:
Fight it?
Enforce it?
Resign?
 
Navy Pride said:
But I do use my service experience to back up what its like.....Otherwise I would not know like you.....You have no clue because you haven't experienced it...........Everyone should serve and spend 90 days at sea on a navy destroyer, then I would have more respect for their opinion..........Bring the draft back............
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So the whole issue about gays in the military should only be decided by those who've spent 90 days at sea on a destroyer?
 
ADK_Forever said:
And if the law was repealed... would they:
Fight it?
Enforce it?
Resign?
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That is a tough one...No one committed and I did not ask but I can tell you to the man they were adament against it. There was only 4 or 5 of us shooting the bull...they really said that the Navy has enough distractions now and does not need another.............
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
So the whole issue about gays in the military should only be decided by those who've spent 90 days at sea on a destroyer?
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It might help....I know how horny I was after spending 90 days at sea without even seeing a woman except in the nightly movie on the mess decks...........

I can only imagine what a gay guy would feel like in the same situation and all that meat around him........:lol:
 
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Navy Pride said:
That is a tough one...No one committed and I did not ask but I can tell you to the man they were adament against it. There was only 4 or 5 of us shooting the bull...they really said that the Navy has enough distractions now and does not need another.............
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I can see how that would be a distraction for a bigot. Not knowing when some gay guy is going to sneak up behind them and give them a kiss.

It's the way it is and due to the nature of the military, bigots shouldn't have to deal with their bigotry ..right? ;)
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
I can see how that would be a distraction for a bigot. Not knowing when some gay guy is going to sneak up behind them and give them a kiss.

It's the way it is and due to the nature of the military, bigots shouldn't have to deal with their bigotry ..right? ;)
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It happens I testified at a court martial where I saw a gay guy making sexual advances against a young kid,,,Mine and another E5's testimony helped to get the guy discharged with and undersireable discharge...

You see in those days when you first enlisted you had o sign and swear you had no homosexual tendencies or have never participated in a homosexual act......
 
Navy Pride said:
It happens I testified at a court martial where I saw a gay guy making sexual advances against a young kid,,,Mine and another E5's testimony helped to get the guy discharged with and undersireable discharge...

You see in those days when you first enlisted you had o sign and swear you had no homosexual tendencies or have never participated in a homosexual act......
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So????????
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
I can see how that would be a distraction for a bigot. Not knowing when some gay guy is going to sneak up behind them and give them a kiss.

It's the way it is and due to the nature of the military, bigots shouldn't have to deal with their bigotry ..right? ;)
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It might also be a distraction for a bunch of middleaged guys who love the navy and did not want to see it get ****ed up wise guy and it has nothing to do with being a bigot..........
 
Navy Pride said:
It might also be a distraction for a bunch of middleaged guys who love the navy and did not want to see it get ****ed up wise guy and it has nothing to do with being a bigot..........
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This whole issue revolves around bigotry.
 
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