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Alaska: Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support

Vader said:
Also ... $1,750.00 per month for one child is excessive and an outright abuse of the system.
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According to Alaska law, a non-custodial parent must pay 20% of income, and based on his income in 2009, that is only supposed to be 20% of his income. So how is that excessive and abusing the system, when it is exactly within the law?
 
Vader said:
The riche-wing opinion is irrelevent here.

If he is not in the childs live and Bristol has full legal custody ... SHE IS NOT ENTITLED TO SUPPORT.

If you do not believe me, look it up.
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I'm not looking up ****. Provide the source or retract your statement.
 
Partisan said:
When one parent has sole custody it does not relieve the non custodial parent of his financial obligation nor abridge his rights to visitation....
Only a court order can do that.....;)
I don't see how this is a right/left opinion, it has a basis in law....;)
As far as the ad hom attack, maybe, but you brought it first....
I apologize.......:3oops:
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All is forgiven. I have enjoyed debating this with you.

Bristol Palin is partially responsible for the child. Levi has a given right to see his child. Bristol Palin can get with the program and cease her behavior or she can pay the price.

If I were Levi's lawyer, I would be suing over her repeated failures to allow him to spend time with his son. Also, I would get a court order that requires visitation. The first time it gets broken FOR ANY REASON; Bristol goes to jail.

If Sarah Palin gets involved and is responsible even for suggesting a breach of the order, she too can spend time in jail.

Since Levi isn't allowed to see his son and has to take the matter to court, I would say the Palins are not entitled to support.

It's a two way street.
 
Vader said:
Given the rampant dishonesty of Palin during her tenure as governor of Alaska; I would say that Bristol, who is not allowing Levi to see his son, is simply trying to extort money.

When Levi gets 50/50 custody.... then Palin has a chance of succeeding in court. Until she becomes honest, which is rather unlikely, she isn't entitled to ask for support.
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This statement is based on what? :confused:
 
Porchev said:
According to Alaska law, a non-custodial parent must pay 20% of income, and based on his income in 2009, that is only supposed to be 20% of his income. So how is that excessive and abusing the system, when it is exactly within the law?
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At this time, Levi isn't allowed to parent. Bristol has sole custody; therefore, the issue is a matter of Bristol allowing Levi enough access to his son to be consider a "non-custodial" parent.

Clearly, she has not done that. Therefore, she has SOLE custody and she bears FULL responsibility.
 
Vader said:
At this time, Levi isn't allowed to parent. Bristol has sole custody; therefore, the issue is a matter of Bristol allowing Levi enough access to his son to be consider a "non-custodial" parent.

Clearly, she has not done that. Therefore, she has SOLE custody and she bears FULL responsibility.
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Dis is miz favorites pics of her moms. Luvs her much. Checks outs da boys in da front rows from Bob Jones U. Hehe.

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Vader said:
It's based on his income. She is NOT going to get $1750.00 per month unless his income allows for it.

She can pull her head out of her ass and get reasonable or she can get laughed out of court.
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As a single mom, I know it's based on his income. Hence why I asked what this kid did for a living. :?

My ex makes good money and I get nowhere near that for TWO children - this is why I asked.
 
Vader said:
1. When Levi went to do his shoot for Playgirl; He got call from Bristol stating that if he went through with the shoot, her mom would make it difficult for him to see his son.
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Proof?

Vader said:
That alone is sufficent to hall her ass into a courtroom and get a judge to order her to shut up her hole, and stay out of the child's relationship with his father.
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And this has something to do with my post?

Vader said:
Since you know NOTHING about the law and I have two college degrees in the subject, I think I have an idea of what makes sense here and what does not.
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Well I think you need to get your money back. :lol:

Again this has nothing to do with your having no proof this had anything at all to do with Sarah Palin.

Vader said:
It's clear to me that you have never been through a custody battle ... IN ANY WAY. Be it a party, a lawyer, or support staff. Therefore, it can be concluded that you are ill-informed as to the workings of the law.
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This has nothing to do with your unsupported accusation.

Vader said:
Your attitude is typical of the reiche-wing. It doesn't fly. Accept it and move on.
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:roll:
 
Blackdog said:
Proof?
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You can't argue with people who are always right in their own minds. Especially those who have studied law for 6 years. :roll:
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
As a single mom, I know it's based on his income. Hence why I asked what this kid did for a living. :?

My ex makes good money and I get nowhere near that for TWO children - this is why I asked.
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Then the father should give what the mothers request is without question, or at least to the best of his ability. To hide behind the law either for or against the amount requested is sleazy to me and shows to me that the father has no moral compass. That said, the mother should also be reasonable and honest in the amounts requested and not to use the child has a bargaining chip or pawn. This to is sleazy and lacks good moral judgment. As father, I would comply without question what my wife would be requesting to the best of my ability, perhaps old fashion but, I was raised this way. A man can pick and succeed, adjust much more easily than a woman with a child. As far as I am concerned if anything happened to my wife and I, she would get everything, all I would request is personal belongings. This would be done both for my wife and child's welfare.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
As a single mom, I know it's based on his income. Hence why I asked what this kid did for a living. :?

My ex makes good money and I get nowhere near that for TWO children - this is why I asked.
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Yeah ... I found the amount to be quite curious myself.

In Alaska, the non-custodial parent is supposed to cough up 20% of his income.

Since Levi isn't even allowed to be a "non-custodial" parent, I cannot see Bristol Palin being entitled to anything more than she is currently getting.

It's a two way street. She can meet him half way or she can pipe down.
 
Blackdog said:
Proof?



And this has something to do with my post?



Well I think you need to get your money back. :lol:

Again this has nothing to do with your having no proof this had anything at all to do with Sarah Palin.



This has nothing to do with your unsupported accusation.



:roll:
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Reich-wing avoidence tactics do not change the validity of my statements.
 
Vader said:
Reich-wing avoidence tactics do not change the validity of my statements.
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Hahahahahahaha! "Reich-wing avoidence tactics" Hahahahahahahaha!

Dude, that is rich!

So I can add hypocrite to the list?

Next time, instead of making false unsubstantiated claims, make certain you know what you are talking about. You could at least have some of what "lawyers" call EVIDENCE. 6 years my black ass. :mrgreen:
 
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Oftencold said:
National Briefing - Northwest - Alaska - Palin Daughter Seeks Child Support - NYTimes.com


I guess nude modeling and advertising nuts just doesn't pay what it should.

I propose legislation authorizing fathers of teenage daughters to shoot Levi Johnston on sight, should he be found on their property, or within 500 feet of their girls.

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There is a part of me that wants to agree with you on the shooting thing because he pretty much sold this family out and is a big backstabber. But.. That baby needs his Daddy and Daddy needs to step up.
 
Blackdog said:
Hahahahahahaha! "Reich-wing avoidence tactics" Hahahahahahahaha!

Dude, that is rich!

So I can add hypocrite to the list?

Next time, instead of making false unsubstantiated claims, make certain you know what you are talking about, or at least have some of what lawyers call EVIDENCE. 6 years my black ass. :mrgreen:
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There is NOTHING unsubstantiated about it. You can live on planet denial all you want. You are wrong. Deal with it.

Bristol Palin expressed the desire to keep the news of their lawsuit secret and requested for close proceedings. However, her boyfriend has objected to the requests as he feared that Sarah Palin would interfere in the case and make it worse for him. After hearing the plea of both sides, the judge decided to make the case public and so people would be able to get the updated reports. As per the last reports, Bristol Palin does not consider her boyfriend to be fit to claim the joint custody of their son. She had cited several facts to support her plea but it is speculated none of them are strong enough to bar Levi Johnston from his rights.

More at : Bristol Palin Claims Sole Custody Of Son Bristol Palin Claims Sole Custody Of Son
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Since she is claimin SOLE CUSTODY ... she is NOT ENTITLED TO SUPPORT.

About Ava "Sarah Palin Brawn" and her interference in Levi's visits with his son:


London, Oct 31 (THAINDIAN NEWS) Levi Johnston is the father of Sarah Palin’s 10 month old grandson Tripp, has decided to go to the court alleging that the former US Vice President candidate is preventing him from meeting his son.

The 19-year-old Levi Johnson, who fathered son Tripp with Palin’s eldest daughter Bristol, said that the step has become “inevitable,” since the politician is putting strong restrictions, against his visits. Levi Johnson is a hockey player and is also going to pose nude in Playgirl soon.

More at : Levi Johnson may sue Sarah Palin over child custody http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...er-child-custody_100268306.html#ixzz3pZst0nZa
 
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Vader said:
There is NOTHING unsubstantiated about it. You can live on planet denial all you want. You are wrong. Deal with it.

Bristol Palin expressed the desire to keep the news of their lawsuit secret and requested for close proceedings. However, her boyfriend has objected to the requests as he feared that Sarah Palin would interfere in the case and make it worse for him. After hearing the plea of both sides, the judge decided to make the case public and so people would be able to get the updated reports. As per the last reports, Bristol Palin does not consider her boyfriend to be fit to claim the joint custody of their son. She had cited several facts to support her plea but it is speculated none of them are strong enough to bar Levi Johnston from his rights.

More at : Bristol Palin Claims Sole Custody Of Son Bristol Palin Claims Sole Custody Of Son
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Since she is claimin SOLE CUSTODY ... she is NOT ENTITLED TO SUPPORT.
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Again this has nothing to do with anything I said.

You said...

"The problem with that is that Sarah Palin is not the child's mother and her daughter is 18. Therefore, it's not Sarah Palin's business and she needs to be told to shut her hole and stay the hell out of it." - Vader

I called bull**** and said Sarah, has nothing to do with it. I am still correct and you have no proof other than Levi saying "She could" make things difficult for him. In other words she has done nothing up to this point. Even the judge in the article you linked to thought it was bull**** and denied to have the proceedings closed.

So again, what proof do you have it is even remotely related to the grandparents in any way shape or form?

Ill tell you, NOTHING!

PS I know at least half a dozen mothers and one dad who have sole custody that are getting child support. It has nothing to do with it.
 
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Oftencold said:
Tell, me seriously, do you think that Levi Johnston could write anything resembling a coherent book? I mean, really. . .

somebody would have to be dumb enough to believe in Obama to . . . hey, who did you vote for?
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I voted for Obama.. Anyways.. Levi Sucks! :2razz:
 
Blackdog said:
Again this has nothing to do with anything I said.

You said...

"The problem with that is that Sarah Palin is not the child's mother and her daughter is 18. Therefore, it's not Sarah Palin's business and she needs to be told to shut her hole and stay the hell out of it." - Vader

I called bull**** and said Sarah, has nothing to do with it. I am still correct and you have no proof other than Levi saying "She could" make things difficult for him. In other words she has done nothing up to this point. Even the judge in the article you linked to thought it was bull**** and denied to have the proceedings closed.

So again, what proof do you have it is even remotely related to the grandparents in any way shape or form?

Ill tell you, NOTHING!

PS I know at least half a dozen mothers and one dad who have sole custody that are getting child support. It has nothing to do with it.
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And again, YOU ARE WRONG.

Bristol Palin's lawyer is ALSO Sarah Palins lawyer. That ties her to it. Also ... Levi fought the Palin's request for a closed hearing because Sarah Palin CLEARLY would have tried to stack the deck.

THE JUDGE IN THE CASE AGREED AND DENIED THEIR REQUEST FOR A CLOSED HEARING.

The reich-wing is defeated here. You are wrong. Try having the courage to admit it.
 
Vader said:
And again, YOU ARE WRONG.

Bristol Palin's lawyer is ALSO Sarah Palins lawyer. That ties her to it. Also ... Levi fought the Palin's request for a closed hearing because Sarah Palin CLEARLY would have tried to stack the deck.
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Because they have the same lawyer has nothing to do with anything. It is proof that mommy is footing the bill, that's about it.

Again this has nothing to do with your comment or what I said.

Your statement is uninformed and a guess at best. You would be laughed out of a court of law with that as evidence of anything.

Vader said:
THE JUDGE IN THE CASE AGREED AND DENIED THEIR REQUEST FOR A CLOSED HEARING.

The reich-wing is defeated here. You are wrong. Try having the courage to admit it.
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Oops! I was wrong on that point. And it changes nothing about your "guessing" and making hypocritical accusations.

Your argument is just to stupid for words.
 
Blackdog said:
Because they have the same lawyer has nothing to do with anything. It is proof that mommy is footing the bill, that's about it.

Again this has nothing to do with your comment or what I said.

Your statement is uninformed and a guess at best. You would be laughed out of a court of law with that as evidence of anything.



Oops! I was wrong on that point. And it changes nothing about your "guessing" and making hypocritical accusations.

Your argument is just to stupid for words.
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You were wrong on ALL points.

Sarah Palin needs to be removed from the equation and told to shut her hole.

If Bristol doesn't want Levi to have parental rights, she cannot ask him to take responsibility either. She cannot have both ways.

Levi is suing the Palin's ass off and is going to win his case. The Palins are arguing that Levi Johnson is unfit based on activities he has done that violate THEIR moral code. Nothing more.

It's a bull**** argument that will fail miserably in court. Levi has done nothing illegal and cannot legally be judged as "unfit"; therefore, he will get 50/50 custody and the first time the Palin's fail to adhere they (Bristol) and propbly Sarah Palin will be serving time for contempt of court.

Don't like it? Too damn bad. That is how the law works. Levi's rights where Tripp is concerned trump Sarah Palin's.
 
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