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Justice Dept. opens preliminary investigation into Ensign's conduct

What are your thoughts on the Black Panther scandal brewing? You know... the one where some thugs were let off from prosecution by Obama?

Not heard about it. Got a link to a non biased site?

But my overall opinion is that the law should be followed regardless of the political colour of the person or persons under investigation and that is not what has been going on for a long time. And that is my point. I dont care if the politician is right or left wing, but the same standard must be applied too all. I dont care if it is Obama himself or Kennedy (pre death) or McCain or Palin or Bush.. the law must be followed. Without that, then you are no better than a dictatorship based on nobles and other elitists where there is one standard for normal people and one standard for the ruling class.
 
Post all that evidence. Thanks.

LOL you are rich, I know fully well you will dismiss it all because it effects the right wing.

But just as an example.. the AG scandal and Monica Goodling.

But I have no doubt you will dismiss it so why even bother answering you since you are not up for a debate but only are here to derail and cause even more fog of war so that in the end we forget what this is all about..
 
Have no idea what you are talking about.

I am talking about the usage by Bush of the US Justice Department for political reasons. And dont deny that it happened because there is plenty of evidence that it did.
Your first staement is self evident.

As for the second, stand and deliver. We await your documented examples.
 
LOL you are rich, I know fully well you will dismiss it all because it effects the right wing.

But just as an example.. the AG scandal and Monica Goodling.

But I have no doubt you will dismiss it so why even bother answering you since you are not up for a debate but only are here to derail and cause even more fog of war so that in the end we forget what this is all about..

So, you don't have any evidence to back up what you're saying? It's ok to admit it that you're engaging in partisan hackery. I thought you didn't like all that partisan hackery. Haven't we heard you chastise others for that?
 
Not heard about it. Got a link to a non biased site?

But my overall opinion is that the law should be followed regardless of the political colour of the person or persons under investigation and that is not what has been going on for a long time. And that is my point. I dont care if the politician is right or left wing, but the same standard must be applied too all. I dont care if it is Obama himself or Kennedy (pre death) or McCain or Palin or Bush.. the law must be followed. Without that, then you are no better than a dictatorship based on nobles and other elitists where there is one standard for normal people and one standard for the ruling class.

Of course you've never heard of it, Pete.

Charges Against 'New Black Panthers' Dropped by Obama Justice Dept. - Political News - FOXNews.com

I knew you would cry about using FNC as my source, so I included video evidence of the crime. I can't imagine that you didn't know about this. Why not?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- "Security" patrols stationed at polling places in Philly[/ame]
 
Of course you've never heard of it, Pete.

Charges Against 'New Black Panthers' Dropped by Obama Justice Dept. - Political News - FOXNews.com

I knew you would cry about using FNC as my source, so I included video evidence of the crime. I can't imagine that you didn't know about this. Why not?

YouTube- "Security" patrols stationed at polling places in Philly

A bit offtopic. I only see them at one polling place yet it says security patrols stationed at polling places. Looks like two idiots who got removed from a polling place.
 
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A bit offtopic. I only see them at one polling place yet it says security patrols stationed at polling places. Looks like two idiots who got removed from a polling place.

They committed a crime and the charges were dropped. Voter intimidation is a serious crime, or at least it should be in this day-n-age.

Monica Goodling didn't go to jail, so I'm still waiting for Pete to back up his comments. Thanks, Pete.
 
They committed a crime and the charges were dropped. Voter intimidation is a serious crime, or at least it should be in this day-n-age.

Monica Goodling didn't go to jail, so I'm still waiting for Pete to back up his comments. Thanks, Pete.
What does this have to do with the topic?
 
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What does this have to do with the topic?

I purported that the Ensign invesitgation is a witch hunt. Pete says it's not. He says that Bush did worse. I asked for proof. He can't come up with it. Pete claimed that the Black Panther case didn't exist and called for documentation. I provided it. Since when are you a moderator?
 
I purported that the Ensign invesitgation is a witch hunt. Pete says it's not. He says that Bush did worse. I asked for proof. He can't come up with it. Pete claimed that the Black Panther case didn't exist and called for documentation. I provided it. Since when are you a moderator?
There is still an injuction against the armed panther. Ensign tried to bribe the husband of his mistress to cover up the affair. Theres obviously something there.
 
There is still an injuction against the armed panther. Ensign tried to bribe the husband of his mistress to cover up the affair. Theres obviously something there.

I really would love to know how that is some sorta crime. I know I don't have alotta book learnin', but I just don't see it.
 
Not heard about it. Got a link to a non biased site?

But my overall opinion is that the law should be followed regardless of the political colour of the person or persons under investigation and that is not what has been going on for a long time. And that is my point. I dont care if the politician is right or left wing, but the same standard must be applied too all. I dont care if it is Obama himself or Kennedy (pre death) or McCain or Palin or Bush.. the law must be followed. Without that, then you are no better than a dictatorship based on nobles and other elitists where there is one standard for normal people and one standard for the ruling class.

Wall Street Journal work for you?

By JOHN FUND
President Obama's Justice Department continues to stonewall inquiries about why it dropped a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party.

The episode—which Bartle Bull, a former civil rights lawyer and publisher of the left-wing Village Voice, calls "the most blatant form of voter intimidation I've ever seen"—began on Election Day 2008. Mr. Bull and others witnessed two Black Panthers in paramilitary garb at a polling place near downtown Philadelphia. (Some of this behavior is on YouTube.)

One of them, they say, brandished a nightstick at the entrance and pointed it at voters and both made racial threats. Mr. Bull says he heard one yell "You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!"

In the first week of January, the Justice Department filed a civil lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party and three of its members, saying they violated the 1965 Voting Rights Act by scaring voters with the weapon, uniforms and racial slurs. In March, Mr. Bull submitted an affidavit at Justice's request to support its lawsuit.

When none of the defendants filed any response to the complaint or appeared in federal district court in Philadelphia to answer the suit, it appeared almost certain Justice would have prevailed by default. Instead, the department in May suddenly allowed the party and two of the three defendants to walk away. Against the third defendant, Minister King Samir Shabazz, it sought only an injunction barring him from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years—action that's already illegal under existing law.

John Fund: Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped - WSJ.com

It's called "taking care of your Brother"
 
There is still an injuction against the armed panther. Ensign tried to bribe the husband of his mistress to cover up the affair. Theres obviously something there.

An injunction that precludes him from doing what is already on the books as illegal? Boy, that really shows law and order.... and he only has to obey that law for 3 years, I'm impressed.
 
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An injunction that precludes him from doing what is already on the books as illegal? Boy, that really shows law and order.... and he only has to obey that law for 3 years, I'm impressed.
Well you guys were saying everything was dropped. From the video I saw two idiots who got removed by the cops. Didnt see them telling people how to vote, keeping people out, assaulting people. I'm still waiting for those to be prosecuted for jamming phone banks, throwing out voter registrations, or robo calling certain people telling them election day has changed. They were removed.
 
Well you guys were saying everything was dropped. From the video I saw two idiots who got removed by the cops. Didnt see them telling people how to vote, keeping people out, assaulting people. I'm still waiting for those to be prosecuted for jamming phone banks, throwing out voter registrations, or robo calling certain people telling them election day has changed. They were removed.

When none of the defendants filed any response to the complaint or appeared in federal district court in Philadelphia to answer the suit, it appeared almost certain Justice would have prevailed by default. Instead, the department in May suddenly allowed the party and two of the three defendants to walk away. Against the third defendant, Minister King Samir Shabazz, it sought only an injunction barring him from displaying a weapon within 100 feet of a Philadelphia polling place for the next three years—action that's already illegal under existing law.

John Fund: Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped - WSJ.com

I'll have to remember that defense if I'm ever charged with a felony..... just don't show up.

They are Black, Barry is Black (well, 1/2 Black), Holder is 1/2 Black..... and you don't see a pattern here? :roll:
 
John Fund: Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped - WSJ.com

I'll have to remember that defense if I'm ever charged with a felony..... just don't show up.

They are Black, Barry is Black (well, 1/2 Black), Holder is 1/2 Black..... and you don't see a pattern here? :roll:
Ah I get it another conspiracy. Obama and Holder sent a few black guys to loiter around at one polling place out of millions in a place he was never going to lose to not intimidate voters and then he 'pardoned' them. Makes a lot of sense or just a few idiots hanging out at a polling place before being removed by the police. They never threatened anyone just stood there. Voter intimidation is a fickle thing that judges dont agree on. In one case it was ruled that it was voter intimidation for republican poll watchers to follow native americans to their cars and taking down their license plate numbers while in another case it wasnt when Ohio poll watchers checked names against a list of registered voters.
 
Oh unlike the many "non stupid investigations" into Democrats during the Bush years?

Are you saying that the FBI and Justice Department are political now but were not under Bush?

Also the Conservatives on these boards have set a standard of sort, demanding every Democrat that is under investigation to resign.. Barney Frank and what not.

That has to go both ways..

So when is he going to resign and when are conservatives on these boards going to start demanding the same of their own people as they demand of the opposition?

Are you really going to hide behind, the other guys do it to! Pretty weak
 
This is just the first in many stupid invesitgations launched by Democrats against Republicans. They'll be giving the Republicans the, "Ted Williams Treatment", from now 'till 2012.

You really can't call this politically motivated. The Justice Department is still loaded with Bush appointees, which Obama kept on after taking office. Rather than a political hatchet job, this is focused on criminal activity, specifically the payment of hush money in violation of the law. But political hacks aren't going to see that. They are just going to whine about how Communists are taking down an honest man. Sheesh!!
 
Ah I get it another conspiracy. Obama and Holder sent a few black guys to loiter around at one polling place out of millions in a place he was never going to lose to not intimidate voters and then he 'pardoned' them. Makes a lot of sense or just a few idiots hanging out at a polling place before being removed by the police. They never threatened anyone just stood there. Voter intimidation is a fickle thing that judges dont agree on. In one case it was ruled that it was voter intimidation for republican poll watchers to follow native americans to their cars and taking down their license plate numbers while in another case it wasnt when Ohio poll watchers checked names against a list of registered voters.

You either have a reading comprehention problem, or you are a lib hack.... try reading this again....

When none of the defendants filed any response to the complaint or appeared in federal district court in Philadelphia to answer the suit,

Any part of that you don't understand? Would you say that is a normal defense on a felony charge? Would you say it would then be normal to just drop the charges after the defendants neglected to show up at their trial?

If you answer yes to any of the above, you are a hack.
 
You really can't call this politically motivated. The Justice Department is still loaded with Bush appointees, which Obama kept on after taking office. Rather than a political hatchet job, this is focused on criminal activity, specifically the payment of hush money in violation of the law. But political hacks aren't going to see that. They are just going to whine about how Communists are taking down an honest man. Sheesh!!

Eric Holder isn't a Bush appointee. He calls the shots.
 
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