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GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

No, what it has done is opened-up a whole new field of energy jobs that have a more steady stream of income. You may or may not know, most oil rig workers are payed based on the price of oil, so when oil dips so do the checks of the workers. Alternative energy jobs bring in seady incomes, or the same amount every check. Many oil rig workers are flocking to these jobs.

That was the promise. This is the reality.

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Clean tech has seen a boost as the U.S. pours government funding into renewable energy, and China looks set to reap much of the benefits. Latest example: a Chinese wind-turbine company has just become the exclusive supplier for one of the largest wind-farm developments in the U.S.

The Shenyang Power Group has signed on to supply 240 of its massive 2.5-megawatt wind turbines to a 36,000-acre development in West Texas. The Wall Street Journal reports that the wind farm is also slated to receive $1.5 billion in financing from the Export-Import Bank of China.


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This comes as the U.S. has increasingly out-sourced much of its wind turbine development. Less than a quarter of wind turbine components installed in the U.S. came from domestic production, and Europe currently holds the lion's share of turbine manufacturing. A Norwegian firm launched the world's first full-scale floating wind turbine this September.

As a reflection of this, just 15 percent of the 2,800 new jobs from the new wind-turbine development will take the form of U.S. jobs. The U.S. government has tried to help the nation's renewable energy industry with $500 million in grants -- but it will likely take a while for U.S. wind power manufacturers to play catch-up after struggling with an uneven market.....
 
No, what it has done is opened-up a whole new field of energy jobs that have a more steady stream of income. You may or may not know, most oil rig workers are payed based on the price of oil, so when oil dips so do the checks of the workers. Alternative energy jobs bring in seady incomes, or the same amount every check. Many oil rig workers are flocking to these jobs.

And, where are those jobs at? They don't actually exist, do they? Nor are there enough of them to offset the unemployment the Liberals have caused.

Many oil rig workers are flocking to these jobs

Got some evidence of that? I work in the oilfield and haven't heard anything about those jobs, or those flocks.
 
That would be globalization brought on by high taxation and union benefits driving industries overseas and into bankruptcies.

Well it is kind of ironic that we fought a civil war over protectionist tariffs that forced production and distribution of manufactured goods to remain in the US and now we have pretty much handed all that production to overseas entities.
 
I would you rather explain to me how repubs would do it any different. From the economy to healthcare, and actually create positive change.

You don't mean "Republicans", you mean Americans.

The correct thing to do for the economy is to cut taxes. Specifically, cut everyone's marginal tax rate, especially cutting the taxes of those people paying most of the tax. ELIMINATE the capital gains tax and all corporate income taxes. People pay income tax when the income is realized to them, that's good enough.

That will create jobs.

What?!!! You say that will increase the deficit? Not if you demand Congress cut spending to where the Constitution allows it.

Health care? Easy. The Congress has the authority to regulate interstate commerce. It's about time the Congress allowed interstate insurance sales. Duh. And make the patient pay, not the taxpayer. The patient using his own money is a wiser shopper than the morons in Congress.

Yes, unlike socialists and liberals, Americans have the right answers.
 
Don't need one. Conservatives want no change. They will allow the cost of healthcare to spiral out of control in order to maintain their insurance and pharma task masters.

Insurance: Top Recipients | OpenSecrets

7 of the top 10 recipients of insurance company donations are Democrats, including Chuck Schumer, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Blanche Lincoln. In 2008, guess who the second biggest recipient was? Obama, just $100k behind McCain (Hillary was third).

Pharmaceuticals / Health Products: Top Recipients | OpenSecrets

8 of the top 10 recipients of pharmaceutical company donations are Democrats, including Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, and Blanche Lincoln. In 2008, the #1 recipient was Obama, who was $1.5 million ahead of the #2 (Hillary).
 
What happened was globalization. That is it and all.

Except for the fact that the Northeast was crumbling in the 70's, decades before "globalization" stuff.

What was happening in the Northeast was Democrats. Democrats means taxes and taxes means businesses moving out.

Perhaps if the Democrats didn't tax businesses to death they wouldn't die or move out.
 
Insurance: Top Recipients | OpenSecrets

7 of the top 10 recipients of insurance company donations are Democrats, including Chuck Schumer, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Blanche Lincoln. In 2008, guess who the second biggest recipient was? Obama, just $100k behind McCain (Hillary was third).

Pharmaceuticals / Health Products: Top Recipients | OpenSecrets

8 of the top 10 recipients of pharmaceutical company donations are Democrats, including Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, and Blanche Lincoln. In 2008, the #1 recipient was Obama, who was $1.5 million ahead of the #2 (Hillary).

That's because the Dems are in charge now. Go back to 2006 and beyond and see what you get. Take a look at campaign donations for Bush and GOP Senators back then. The numbers are flipped.

Trust me, they ALL take every penny they can get.
 
That's because the Dems are in charge now. Go back to 2006 and beyond and see what you get. Take a look at campaign donations for Bush and GOP Senators back then. The numbers are flipped.

Trust me, they ALL take every penny they can get.

I see it... and that's the problem isn't it? The lobbyists are simply pandering to whomever is in charge and the politicians- no matter the party - takes the money. That has to stop.
 
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I think that as much as the Liberals have overreached, that my dog could run against them and win.

I mean, it's incredible how the Liberals saw a mandate from the people to destroy this country.

This is because Obama is inexperienced as a leader. I believe he was always a follower, and baby-fied. He's kinda like, "I'm doing it my way, or else". He needed to go slow, but instead he went all over the world belittling the US and making all those unnecessary comments. Trying to be buddy-buddy with our enemies. You don't do that with people who want to see you dead.

Then he started wanting to make the terrorists not terrorists, and calling 9/11 a man-made catastrophe. He's a silly, silly man, really. Not at all worthy of his position. The older, established Democrats should be advising him, but maybe they can't.

He should have left the banks alone after the first bailout. The auto-makers, no deal, no bailout. So people will lose jobs? They'll have to find other jobs like everybody else that has had this happen. My husband had this happen to him 28 yrs ago and he found another job. It paid a lot less, but had potential. We had to move and leave family. He nows makes way more than he ever did, and has better benefits. Who says we need 3 auto-makers? They should have restructured and merged long ago, and worked towards making the unions less powerful. The unions have ruined our auto-industry, plain and simple. Obama should have flat out told the unions you have to concede on wages and benefits.

I could go on, but oh my, the time does fly. Obama, I hope, will be the big-one who gets the boot. He's too Socialistic for my tastes. I like owning a nice house, having a couple cars, savings, etc. too much. I want to keep the money I work for. People who are unlucky or don't have the hutspah to take chances, well I'm sorry, but you need to take care of yourself. We can help you, but you have to help yourself at some point if you are able-bodied.
 
Insurance: Top Recipients | OpenSecrets

7 of the top 10 recipients of insurance company donations are Democrats, including Chuck Schumer, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Blanche Lincoln. In 2008, guess who the second biggest recipient was? Obama, just $100k behind McCain (Hillary was third).

Pharmaceuticals / Health Products: Top Recipients | OpenSecrets

8 of the top 10 recipients of pharmaceutical company donations are Democrats, including Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, and Blanche Lincoln. In 2008, the #1 recipient was Obama, who was $1.5 million ahead of the #2 (Hillary).

Yet Democrats are working against them and Republicans to protect them.
 
Except for the fact that the Northeast was crumbling in the 70's, decades before "globalization" stuff.

What was happening in the Northeast was Democrats. Democrats means taxes and taxes means businesses moving out.

Perhaps if the Democrats didn't tax businesses to death they wouldn't die or move out.

Can you provide stats for this?
 
yes.

They're making "more" money than when they don't have a job.

Funny how that works, isn't it?

Take a look at energy companies, they are still making money. Are you serious? Or just nuts? And save your "American," wrap myself in the flag bs for the ignorant masses that fall for that ****.
 
That's because the Dems are in charge now. Go back to 2006 and beyond and see what you get. Take a look at campaign donations for Bush and GOP Senators back then. The numbers are flipped.

Trust me, they ALL take every penny they can get.

Yet Democrats are working against them and Republicans to protect them.

So your theory is that the Republicans are acting the way they do in spite of the fact that these industries have drastically curtailed their donations and have shifted to giving to their opponents?

It's almost as if they actually believe in their positions!
 
So your theory is that the Republicans are acting the way they do in spite of the fact that these industries have drastically curtailed their donations and have shifted to giving to their opponents?

It's almost as if they actually believe in their positions!

Let's see if you can get this. They give money to whoever is in power in order to try to gain influence. If the GOP has no influence then why waste the money any longer. They know Dems will still work against them, but try to soften it will their donations.
 
I see it... and that's the problem isn't it? The lobbyists are simply pandering to whomever is in charge and the politicians- no matter the party - takes the money. That has to stop.

Then certain people...can I call them socialists....have to not only stop insisting that the government get more power, but they actually have to start demanding the government get smaller, with less power.

Power is what politicians sell.

Duh! That we have to explain something this simple to supposedly educated people!
 
Let's see if you can get this. They give money to whoever is in power in order to try to gain influence. If the GOP has no influence then why waste the money any longer. They know Dems will still work against them, but try to soften it will their donations.

My point is that it's asinine to claim that Republicans are operating at the beck and call of the insurance and pharmaceutical companies when those same companies have shunned the Republicans for the past 2 elections and have been donating most of their money to the Democrats. As you note, the reason those industries do that is because they donate to whoever is in charge, which is exactly why it's dumb to rely on the fact that they donated to the Republicans when they were in charge as proof that the Republicans are beholden to those industries.

If you want to claim that by virtue of their political and economic philosophies, Republicans are naturally more friendly to insurance or pharmaceutical companies, that would be a more logical position. However, your claim that they are acting this way because they're in the pay of those industries is absurd.
 
My point is that it's asinine to claim that Republicans are operating at the beck and call of the insurance and pharmaceutical companies when those same companies have shunned the Republicans for the past 2 elections and have been donating most of their money to the Democrats. As you note, the reason those industries do that is because they donate to whoever is in charge, which is exactly why it's dumb to rely on the fact that they donated to the Republicans when they were in charge as proof that the Republicans are beholden to those industries.

If you want to claim that by virtue of their political and economic philosophies, Republicans are naturally more friendly to insurance or pharmaceutical companies, that would be a more logical position. However, your claim that they are acting this way because they're in the pay of those industries is absurd.

I agree that the money fluctuates, but it would be interesting to see who supported Brown wouldn't it.
 
Take a look at energy companies, they are still making money. Are you serious? Or just nuts? And save your "American," wrap myself in the flag bs for the ignorant masses that fall for that ****.

I'd never wrap you in the flag.

Nor myself.

You want to be considered an American? You have to stop urging unamerican scams on the country.

Socialism is as unamerican as it gets.

Of course energy companies are making money. That's what they're in business for.
 
I'd never wrap you in the flag.

Nor myself.

You want to be considered an American? You have to stop urging unamerican scams on the country.

Socialism is as unamerican as it gets.

Of course energy companies are making money. That's what they're in business for.

Then why are you asserting they are shedding jobs if you admit they are still quite profitable?
 
I'd never wrap you in the flag.

Nor myself.

You want to be considered an American? You have to stop urging unamerican scams on the country.

Socialism is as unamerican as it gets.

Of course energy companies are making money. That's what they're in business for.

And no one is urging socialism, just a fair market free from the scams insurance and pharma have on the country.
 
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