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GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

I'm just happy that when I gloated about Obama winning in November 2008, I quietly gloated about it. I find public gloating repulsive.

You ain't seen nothin', yet. Wait until the rest of them, including PBO get their butts sent packin'. Then, you'll see some real gloating...:rofl
 
Not if all those seats had to run today.

This is sending a clear message. Why do you deny it?

Are they running today?

A clear message is when the power shifts; not until then.
 
Are they running today?

A clear message is when the power shifts; not until then.

The clear message has been sent - the question now: Are the Democrats listening? Because if they do not listen, you will be right; it's "WHEN" power shifts and not "IF" power shifts.
 
41 out of 100 is still a minority.

There's six seats expected to switch in November, including Reid, Lincoln, Feingold, and maybe even Evan Bayh if he doesn't start running like crazy from ALL of Obama's agenda items.

Even Barbara Boxer's spot is in jeopardy, which I wouldn't believe could happen in California until what I saw last night.

Last night was AWFUL for the Democrats. This is akin to Japan beating Brazil in the World Cup. Democrats just didn't think something like this was even possible.
 
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The clear message has been sent - the question now: Are the Democrats listening? Because if they do not listen, you will be right; it's "WHEN" power shifts and not "IF" power shifts.

The message sent is not the message that most Republicans think.

The Republicans lost big in 2008 because they were acting like Republicans.

The Democrats are losing the support of America today because THEY are acting like Republicans. Not doing what they were elected to do.

The message sent: The Democrats need to stop acting like Republicans and start doing what they were elected to do. If you are going to act like Republicans, then we might as well elect a Republican.
 
The message sent is not the message that most Republicans think.

The Republicans lost big in 2008 because they were acting like Republicans.

The Democrats are losing the support of America today because THEY are acting like Republicans. Not doing what they were elected to do.

The message sent: The Democrats need to stop acting like Republicans and start doing what they were elected to do. If you are going to act like Republicans, then we might as well elect a Republican.

Jesus Christ you could sell that post to a carnival and have it become the prime attraction with the size of the :spin: you're spitting. The reaking smell of bull**** however may turn some off from the ride.

Republicans lost in 2008 in part due to conservatives being disenfranchised and disenchanted with a party that abandoned much of its conservative principles for the past 8 years.

As far as Democrats acting like republicans....

The Bailouts filled with tons of money for pet welfare-esque projects was acting like republicans, or more, conservatives?

The cap and trade legislation was like republicans?

The health care bill was like republicans?

My god, how are you still standing after that much spinning. I'd be dizzy as hell.
 
The message sent is not the message that most Republicans think.

The Republicans lost big in 2008 because they were acting like Republicans.

The Democrats are losing the support of America today because THEY are acting like Republicans. Not doing what they were elected to do.

The message sent: The Democrats need to stop acting like Republicans and start doing what they were elected to do. If you are going to act like Republicans, then we might as well elect a Republican.

The Republicans lost in '08, because they were trying to hard to act like Liberals.

The real message here is: Americans have rejected the Liberal agenda.

Like Rush, I hoped that the Liberal agenda would be a massive failure and our prayers have been answered. It's time to take our country back.
 
The Republicans lost in '08, because they were trying to hard to act like Liberals.

The real message here is: Americans have rejected the Liberal agenda.

Like Rush, I hoped that the Liberal agenda would be a massive failure and our prayers have been answered. It's time to take our country back.

The real message is democracy and that the US likes a pendulum.
 
The message sent is not the message that most Republicans think.

The Republicans lost big in 2008 because they were acting like Republicans.

The Democrats are losing the support of America today because THEY are acting like Republicans. Not doing what they were elected to do.

The message sent: The Democrats need to stop acting like Republicans and start doing what they were elected to do. If you are going to act like Republicans, then we might as well elect a Republican.

I totally disagree, but your opinion is what's shared with the most liberal of the Democrats - basically saying, we need to push the far leftist agenda of Pelosi and stop playing in the middle. That obviously is not playing well with independent voters. What you're talking about is the Democratic and far left loons. I'm talking about the moderates, independents of both party's as well as Republicans. The polls clearly show that your view point is out of touch with Americans and while they still like Obama personally, the policy's he's pushing with the Congressional leaders are NOT supported. I think the message is, "Stop being reckless with our money, stop playing to the populist notion of evil banks and corporations and help us get jobs, keep jobs, and put more money in our pockets because we're hurting". Heath care was a mistake and now Democrats must pay the piper for going after the wrong issue. It's still salvageable, though it will take a lot of politicians eating crow to do it. This can be turned around by INVOLVING Republicans, showing how Obama and Democrats can put aside hyper partisanship ... if not, the chickens come home to roost in 2010, and Obama will be the best loved 1 term President of modern times.
 
The real message is democracy and that the US likes a pendulum.

I'm sorry, but I believe you are very, very wrong.

The Liberal spin is awesome! I can't wait to hear the cries of racism when PBO is voted out.
 
The Republicans lost in '08, because they were trying to hard to act like Liberals.

The real message here is: Americans have rejected the Liberal agenda.

Like Rush, I hoped that the Liberal agenda would be a massive failure and our prayers have been answered. It's time to take our country back.

Not without a serious shake up of the Republican party. Until they can put forth a more responsible policy for America, simply changing Democrats for Republicans will do nothing. Republicans have to consciously assert a more conservative method: smaller government, reduce the nanny state, cut expenditures and lower taxes. Include Democrats in the process and do what Obama has not - make it transparent. Lastly - be honest with the American people and stop some of the typical Washington porkfest of the taxpayers dollars. It's not the Government's money, it's the people's money. Treat it that way and not like a personal bank account where everyone gets a piece of the pie to spend on bull****. THAT would be the start of REAL change but Republicans or possibly (dare I say) a third party has to have the conviction and intestinal fortitude to actually do it. Until then... it's all a waste of time.
 
The clear message has been sent - the question now: Are the Democrats listening? Because if they do not listen, you will be right; it's "WHEN" power shifts and not "IF" power shifts.

I really don't care if they're listening or not. I prefer a very divisive government where little gets done due to petty partisan bickering.

..and I love filibusters. Nothing like watching minority obstructionists halting legislation dead in its tracks. The beauty of it is that both sides are fated to forever engage in this hypocritical behavior.

:mrgreen:
 
Not without a serious shake up of the Republican party. Until they can put forth a more responsible policy for America, simply changing Democrats for Republicans will do nothing. Republicans have to consciously assert a more conservative method: smaller government, reduce the nanny state, cut expenditures and lower taxes. Include Democrats in the process and do what Obama has not - make it transparent. Lastly - be honest with the American people and stop some of the typical Washington porkfest of the taxpayers dollars. It's not the Government's money, it's the people's money. Treat it that way and not like a personal bank account where everyone gets a piece of the pie to spend on bull****. THAT would be the start of REAL change but Republicans or possibly (dare I say) a third party has to have the conviction and intestinal fortitude to actually do it. Until then... it's all a waste of time.

I think that as much as the Liberals have overreached, that my dog could run against them and win.

I mean, it's incredible how the Liberals saw a mandate from the people to destroy this country.
 
I really don't care if they're listening or not. I prefer a very divisive government where little gets done due to petty partisan bickering.

..and I love filibusters. Nothing like watching minority obstructionists halting legislation dead in its tracks. The beauty of it is that both sides are fated to forever engage in this hypocritical behavior.

:mrgreen:

I get ya ... but they're not bickering enough to make them totally useless yet. We have to stoke the fires a bit more so the fist fights start on the House floor and then we'll have a government that get's little to nothing done. How awesome would it be to see Bayner and Grayson in a hockey stance, pulling their suit jackets over each others heads and pounding each other? I'd watch C-Span for that - hell, I'd buy tickets if they sold em.
 
I think that as much as the Liberals have overreached, that my dog could run against them and win.

I mean, it's incredible how the Liberals saw a mandate from the people to destroy this country.

To me it's just typical elitism at the leadership levels and just goes to show, they have the wrong people leading.
 
The message sent is not the message that most Republicans think.

The Republicans lost big in 2008 because they were acting like Republicans.

The Democrats are losing the support of America today because THEY are acting like Republicans. Not doing what they were elected to do.

The message sent: The Democrats need to stop acting like Republicans and start doing what they were elected to do. If you are going to act like Republicans, then we might as well elect a Republican.

LOL. Now that's denial in its grandest form.

No, last night was the bluest state in the country completely throwing Obama's agenda in his face and saying, "get that **** outta here!!"

It's over. This is a center-right country, and Obama's ideology is being rejected entirely, even in Massachusetts!! :rofl
 
The Republicans lost in '08, because they were trying to hard to act like Liberals.

The real message here is: Americans have rejected the Liberal agenda.

Like Rush, I hoped that the Liberal agenda would be a massive failure and our prayers have been answered. It's time to take our country back.

Are you trying to compete with the ride at Disney, cause you've got some great :spin: going on as well.

You realize that Brown ran as a relatively moderate social conservative comparitive to the type of conservative you are, and what was in office for the past few years. He wasn't running on over turning Roe v. Wade, he wasn't running on a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

The only part of the liberal platform this really points to is the Health Care platform, and even then to say that it shows "Americans" have rejected it when only a single state has, even if that state is definitely a blue one, is questionable.

The republicans also didn't lose in 08 because they were trying to "act like liberals". McCain was actually trying to act more like the archtype conservative during the campaign than he had anytime in the 8 years prior. Palin was far from attmepting to act like a liberal.

People throwing out this ignorant hyper partisan hack spin on both sides about why Republicans lost are at best delusional and at worst purposefully decieving and manipulating information because they don't give a damn about this country but simply scoring their own political points.

Republicans lost because.......

They had an extremely unpopular president from their party leaving the White House.

The economy was doing poorly under the Republican President just prior to it.

A segment of the republican base had became disengaged and disinterested in the party starting in 2006.

A large segment of the base was unenthusiastic and unhappy about a John McCain candidacy.

A extremely botched campaign by McCain that couldn't grab independents, and horrible political strategy after bringing Palin on making it even harder to get independents.

The pop icon status of Obama, becoming not just a political pick but a "trendy" pick for people. It was suddenly "fashionable" to vote and be political interested for the first time in years upon years.

The historical significance of an Obama election.

The striking charismatic difference between Obama and McCain

Etc

People stupidly saying it was done largely because people "rejected the republican agenda" or because "Republicans acted like liberals" are just being intellectually dishonest or lazy in their examining of that situation.
 
I think the biggest thing that surprises me is how little I care. Even when the dems have 58(60) seats, nothing good got done. So what does it matter really? Why should I, as a liberal, support a party that does not represent me even when given a great opportunity to do so. So, really, I simply do not care because I don't think this election is really going to change all that much.
 
The message sent is not the message that most Republicans think.

The Republicans lost big in 2008 because they were acting like Republicans.

The Democrats are losing the support of America today because THEY are acting like Republicans. Not doing what they were elected to do.

The message sent: The Democrats need to stop acting like Republicans and start doing what they were elected to do. If you are going to act like Republicans, then we might as well elect a Republican.

disneydude: "Ignore everything but NY 23. NY 23 shows where the country is."
 
Are you trying to compete with the ride at Disney, cause you've got some great :spin: going on as well.

You realize that Brown ran as a relatively moderate social conservative comparitive to the type of conservative you are, and what was in office for the past few years. He wasn't running on over turning Roe v. Wade, he wasn't running on a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

The only part of the liberal platform this really points to is the Health Care platform, and even then to say that it shows "Americans" have rejected it when only a single state has, even if that state is definitely a blue one, is questionable.

The republicans also didn't lose in 08 because they were trying to "act like liberals". McCain was actually trying to act more like the archtype conservative during the campaign than he had anytime in the 8 years prior. Palin was far from attmepting to act like a liberal.

People throwing out this ignorant hyper partisan hack spin on both sides about why Republicans lost are at best delusional and at worst purposefully decieving and manipulating information because they don't give a damn about this country but simply scoring their own political points.

Republicans lost because.......

They had an extremely unpopular president from their party leaving the White House.

The economy was doing poorly under the Republican President just prior to it.

A segment of the republican base had became disengaged and disinterested in the party starting in 2006.

A large segment of the base was unenthusiastic and unhappy about a John McCain candidacy.

A extremely botched campaign by McCain that couldn't grab independents, and horrible political strategy after bringing Palin on making it even harder to get independents.

The pop icon status of Obama, becoming not just a political pick but a "trendy" pick for people. It was suddenly "fashionable" to vote and be political interested for the first time in years upon years.

The historical significance of an Obama election.

The striking charismatic difference between Obama and McCain

Etc

People stupidly saying it was done largely because people "rejected the republican agenda" or because "Republicans acted like liberals" are just being intellectually dishonest or lazy in their examining of that situation.


My kid coulda beat out Coakley and her defeat is, IMO, directly related to rejection of the far Left swing by our government.

Coakley went into this race up, what? 30 points over Brown? This is a classic case of agenda rejection.

48% of Mass. voters said that health care was their main issue. If that ain't agenda rejection, then I don't know what is.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31708.html
 
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It is a good day for insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies, congrats and may they bleed the working class dry!
 
It is a good day for insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies, congrats and may they bleed the working class dry!

No one's making money, mostly because of the Liberal agenda. The same agenda that wants to force people to buy insurance, or be fined if they don't, all the while taxing healthcare plans of the working class, who aren't union members.

Whose doing the bleeding?
 
He was after votes.....Lets see what he says now that he has won.........

So wait...you are totally ok with it if the guy lied during the election to pander to groups you don't agree with and then turns around and does the opposite? Isn't being fed up with that kind of behavior what led to the dems losing the seat to start with?

You might want to rethink that position just for the sake of that morality you seem to be so proud of.
 
:shock:

Wholesale panic set in yet, Dems?
 
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