• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

I am sorry to report that you are all wrong when it comes to the reasons behind this stunning victory.

It was not because of Obama clearly being a lying anti-American Socialist.

It was not Because Nancy Pelosi is the "Wicked Witch of the West" or that Harry Reid is obviously suffering from reduced mental capacity.

And it's not because of the Socialist over reaching fake health care legislation.

And finally it was not because to the backlash of the progressive movement.

I am please to announce that Mr. Brown won because of Global Warming and because God is punishing Danny Glover for making a deal with the demonic Mel Gibson to make Lethal Weapon Movies which made Glover famous.
Thank God and EXON :rofl
 
And Reagan was in politics for over 20 years before he was elected president ven making the key note speech for Goldwater in 1964.........

Her social conservatism will be even less relevant twenty years from now.
 
Her social conservatism will be even less relevant twenty years from now.

Stop it. Social conservatism is gaining ground. Can't you see? Massachusetts just elected a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, a-religious Republican who happens to be supportive of Obama's military decisions.
 
Hmm, what evidence do you have to suggest that Americans are moving left on social issues?

Electorate demography.

United_States_Population_by_gender_1950-2010.gif


The socially conservative demographics (older people) are thinning out, while the socially liberal ones (younger people) are expanding.

Younger people tend to be less invested in religious values concerning drug use, abortion, and sexuality, which means the electorate as a whole will become less receptive to hard-line social conservatism over time.

I respectfully suggest that you learn a bit more about Palin before you typecast her.

I know she's no Reagan.

Underestimate her at your own peril. I would hazard a guess that most of what guides your opinion has been framed by the same folks who view Scott Brown as a joke (hint - Keith Olbermann).

I want the GOP to win in 2012. That's why I think they should forget about Palin and find a more palatable candidate. One who is fiscally conservative, strong on defense, and socially moderate. Scott Brown fits that mold quite well. Brown and Romney would make quite the handsome ticket.
 
Last edited:
He is a pro life, anti gay marriage, anti health care bill conservative........

He got one right :mrgreen:

I'm pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and anti-healthcare bill libertarian.
 
Stop it. Social conservatism is gaining ground. Can't you see? Massachusetts just elected a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, a-religious Republican who happens to be supportive of Obama's military decisions.


Who's largest platform promise was to be the 41st vote against Obamacare. I think this sends one hell of a signal to DC, question is, are they listening?


j-mac
 
Obama won because people were sick of Bush and his policies. Bush was an inept president. He got us into a stupid war in Iraq that is unpopular. He was perceived as a tool of the oil companies. He was originally elected under shady circumstances.

Obama was perceived as hip, Black, different. He came across well. They could vote for a Black who was 'articulate' and tell their friends they voted for 'change' and were a part of 'history'.

He wasn't elected specifically on healthcare.

This vote is a resounding negative commentary on Obama and his harebrained tax and spend policies of caving into fatcat lobbyists, paying off political cronies, and not delivering on promises made.

Would you provide evidence of what I bolded above? I have no idea what you're talking about. Examples, please.
 
I'm just happy that when I gloated about Obama winning in November 2008, I quietly gloated about it. I find public gloating repulsive.
 
I'm just happy that when I gloated about Obama winning in November 2008, I quietly gloated about it. I find public gloating repulsive.

Oh, this is sweet and worthy of hefty gloating.

Had I been a Democrat... last November, I would have gloated quietly too knowing the elected representative was not only hollow through and through, but had a history contrary to what he proclaimed himself to be.
That would have made for a Shaddup moment... fer sure.
Yeah we won... I hope he doesn't fark it up too badly.

This isn't one of those moments.

It's time to send a message... load and clear.
It's time to thunder gloat for a few days, rub Obama's and the Propagandists (Mainstream media) noses in it.

Then... we must get to work to clean up the crap in our own party and make sure Obama's Socialist scheming fails.

.
 
Last edited:
Stop it. Social conservatism is gaining ground. Can't you see? Massachusetts just elected a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, a-religious Republican who happens to be supportive of Obama's military decisions.
I was just told by ANOTHER liberal here that Brown was a social conservative...a day before the election.

Which is it? or is this a concerted effort by liberals to somehow minimize the significance of this to the public, so as to cast doubt on social conservativism?
 
Actually, Palin is a total idiot. Brown has the kind of charisma Reagan had. He has my vote already.

Not a day goes by that I do not hope for another Reagan. If Brown is it, I welcome him whole-heartedly.
 
How long does he serve? Till the next regular election for the seat or for 6 years?
 
How long does he serve? Till the next regular election for the seat or for 6 years?
he will finish kennedy's term, which is in 2012.

so 4 years.
 
Who's largest platform promise was to be the 41st vote against Obamacare. I think this sends one hell of a signal to DC, question is, are they listening?


j-mac

41 out of 100 is still a minority.
 
Also, let me make another statement: Move over Palin and the rest of the Conservative wannabes. The real deal is here. He should run for president. I bet he would win too.

One day at a time, let's see how he pans out first.

I agree here with both. I'm optomistic about Brown. That said, I want to see what happens. Despite how Navy is trying to paint him he seems to be a rather pragmatic social conservative, which is the kind I can get behind. Doesn't like gay marriage, but also isn't in favor of BIG GOVERNMENT telling the states what they can and can not allow (and yet some of our "conservatives" are all for trampling state rights and going for BIG GOVERNMENT). Doesn't like abortion but would focus more on disallowing late term and keeping government funding from going to it then fighting to overturn roe v. wade. Etc. I don't mind, and actually agree, with some segments of Social Conservatism....it is just to the extremes, specifically the BIG GOVERNMENT extremes, that some take it that turn me off and will keep me from voting for them.

Unlike Navy, I don't criticize politicians for not sticking to their platform when I like it and then commend them/hope for them to change it and essentially lie straight to the face of the people when it helps me. If Brown keeps to what he promised and shown during the campaign, and is a good fiscal conservative and a pragmatic social conservative he'll have a fan for some time. If he lied to the face of the people and becomes just yet another mindless big government Republican (I refuse to call that conservative) then he's worthless to me.
 
Not a day goes by that I do not hope for another Reagan. If Brown is it, I welcome him whole-heartedly.

One thing he has in common with Reagan is that he did some less than stellar entertainment in the past. ;)

PH2009092304893.jpg
 
Despite how Navy is trying to paint him he seems to be a rather pragmatic social conservative, which is the kind I can get behind.

I believe his pragmatism is the key reason he was able to gain the support of a sufficient number of independent voters to win the election. In many ways, the formula he used is not very different from that deployed by now Governors Christie and McDonnell in their electoral victories.
 
Back
Top Bottom