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GOP's Brown wins Mass. Senate seat in epic upset

Worse would be if they pull obvious shenanigans with seating him. The blowback would be torrential, perhaps even fatal.
 
Navy Pride said:
Speak for yourself........There are social and fiscal issues....Social issues may not be important to you but they are important to a hell of a lot of us..........
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Scott Brown did not win because he is socially conservative.
 
Ethereal said:
He won because he campaigned against Obamacare and the people of Massachusetts already have government insurance; a lot of them are very disappointed with it, as they should be, and the ones who do like it don't want national health insurance either. That's not to say his fiscal conservatism wasn't crucial in his victory, because it underpinned his entire message, but you seem to be overplaying the significance of his socially conservative stances, like abortion and gay marriage.

Moreover, his stance on the aforementioned issues can't really be encapsulated by simplistic terms like, "pro-life" and "anti-gay marriage". They're a little more nuanced than that.
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I listened to a focus group of dems tonight and they love their health care and don't want Obama to touch it......that is why they voted for him......
 
U.S. Army Retired said:
Watching the local Mass news affiliate and they are saying almost 2.3 million total voters got out and voted and thats half of Mass registered voters. Half stayed home.
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For a special election, that is an incredibly high turnout rate.
 
Well heyro there Mr. Fillibuster!
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Have you spent your moment wisely?
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You partly lost me with your first post about Pat Robertson and Haiti, then you completely lost me with your post about "spending my moment wisely."

I'm just trying to understand what it is you are saying. Are you just trying to annoy me or do you have a point?
 
Ethereal said:
Okay, it's possible, but the margin is razor thin now. The House Democrats are crapping their pants at the thought of 2010, so I don't see the Senate version making it through.
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I don't either, but I've seen basketball games lost by balls thrown just before the buzzer goes off, too.

And those poisonous vipers aren't going to let this one die quietly.

Ethereal said:
As to reconciliation, Americans wouldn't sit down for that one. They clearly do not want the Democrat's version of health care reform. The Dems would defy the people at their own peril.
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They HAVE been doing that for this bill. Dodd's quit, Reid's not going to win re-election, they're dropping like flies. The stakes are that high, this is the last grasp of the "Progressives" to screw us with our own health care system, and they're not going to give up.
 
Hey Dav. Post some links of Democrats lamenting Brown's victory. I want to relish the moment...:twisted:
 
I want a recount :rofl
 
Cilogy said:
You partly lost me with your first post about Pat Robertson and Haiti, then you completely lost me with your post about "spending my moment wisely."

I'm just trying to understand what it is you are saying. Are you just trying to annoy me or do you have a point?
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You used the phrase "too conservative".

Roberston is the archetypal "too" conservative.

Otherwise, if the guy is merely an anti-big government, anti-tax, pro-capitalism, pro-freedom Senator, he'll be better than 99% of his colleagues.
 
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Zyphlin said:
You know what really probably did it?

I bet Mr. V said that "Brown is going to Bust in Mass, he can't win there, its mass".

As seen in the avatar thread, anything Mr. V predicts will happen 100% opposite. So that must've been what caused this :)

Woo, the past few elections...its nice to be excited about results again
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Hear, Hear I am listening to his acceptance speech...This guy is a true Conservative and a rising star...........
 
My favorite response from DU-

"We can stop counting Lieberman now, right?"
 
Another feather in the cap of yours truly. I called this one days ago. :)
 
Ethereal said:
Hey Dav. Post some links of Democrats lamenting Brown's victory. I want to relish the moment...:twisted:
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I got the first impression from here:

FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Defying Odds, Republican Brown Becomes Next Senator from Massachusetts

But just look around the Kos and the like, it's all the same. When they're not crying they're eyes out they're 1. crediting the loss to Obama and Congress not being liberal enough (*snark*) or 2. talking about how stupid the electorate is.
 
Also, let me make another statement: Move over Palin and the rest of the Conservative wannabes. The real deal is here. He should run for president. I bet he would win too.
 
U.S. Army Retired said:
Watching the local Mass news affiliate and they are saying almost 2.3 million total voters got out and voted and thats half of Mass registered voters. Half stayed home.
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They thought a good turn out would be 40%
 
danarhea said:
Also, let me make another statement: Move over Palin and the rest of the Conservative wannabes. The real deal is here. He should run for president. I bet he would win too.
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He's a Massachusetts conservative, whereas Palin is an Alaska conservative. Both of them are reasonable candidates when their electorate is considered. As for the entire nation being the electorate... we'll have to see.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
You used the phrase "too conservative".

Roberston is the archetypal "too" conservative.

Otherwise, if the guy is merely an anti-big government, anti-tax, pro-capitalism, pro-freedom Senator, he'll be better than 99% of his colleagues.
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Anti-big government, even though he is being elected into an office under that title.

Anti-tax, even though taxes ... uuuh ... kinda make this country work.

He's anti-gay marriage, which pulls him down a lot. He's okay with concealed carry of weapons :shock:

Of course he has some good policies, but the bad ones pull him down a lot.
 
Dav said:
He's a Massachusetts conservative, whereas Palin is an Alaska conservative. Both of them are reasonable candidates when their electorate is considered. As for the entire nation being the electorate... we'll have to see.
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Actually, Palin is a total idiot. Brown has the kind of charisma Reagan had. He has my vote already.
 
danarhea said:
Also, let me make another statement: Move over Palin and the rest of the Conservative wannabes. The real deal is here. He should run for president. I bet he would win too.
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Lets at least get him seated in the senate first.....
 
danarhea said:
Also, let me make another statement: Move over Palin and the rest of the Conservative wannabes. The real deal is here. He should run for president. I bet he would win too.
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One day at a time, let's see how he pans out first.
 
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