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US to deploy 10,000 troops in Haiti

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Up to 10,000 US troops will be on the ground or off the coast of Haiti by Monday to help deal with the earthquake aid effort, US defence officials say.

Tuesday's earthquake has left as many as 50,000-100,000 people dead.

Haitian Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive said more than 15,000 bodies had already been recovered and buried, French news agency AFP reported.

This is a strong and substantial response by the US. How do you feel about the deployement of another 10,000 US troops in a foriegn country?


BBC News - US sending 10,000 troops to earthquake-hit Haiti
 
I fully support all humanitarian and such needed actions and involvement.

It's far different than things such as the Wars in the Middle East and being stationed at foreign, permanent bases and so on.

However, I'd prefer that our responses to foreign-land disasters be more equal and NOT pending on what else we have going on in our country as well as our political leanings in DC, etc. I think thta we should provide sufficient and balanced aid to all countries in need no matter what.
 
I think it's BS. The rest of the world will just forget about our good will, like they've always done.
 
I think it's BS. The rest of the world will just forget about our good will, like they've always done.

That's not hte point of providing humanitarian aide.

It might be related to it - but that's not the sole reason. People should always be willing to help people when they need help. I would want help if I was in a similar situation - sometimes your country just can't do everything for you.

I think too many people IN the US are spoiled by our efficiency and simply don't know what it's like to really be **** up a creek.
 
That's not hte point of providing humanitarian aide.

That's why our politicians do it.

It might be related to it - but that's not the sole reason. People should always be willing to help people when they need help. I would want help if I was in a similar situation - sometimes your country just can't do everything for you.

I agree. I'm just sick of the United States getting **** on by spineless Europhiles even though we're the main stabilizing force on the planet.

I think too many people IN the US are spoiled by our efficiency and simply don't know what it's like to really be **** up a creek.

Definitely agree.
 
I think it's BS. The rest of the world will just forget about our good will, like they've always done.

As long as Haiti remembers who showed up, that's all that matters. **** the haters.
 
As long as Haiti remembers who showed up, that's all that matters. **** the haters.

I definitely think we should help them as much as we are able, regardless if they remember or not. I just wish our government would do it for the right reasons. I'm sick of trying to impress some elitist cabal of European cunts.
 
I fully support all humanitarian and such needed actions and involvement.

It's far different than things such as the Wars in the Middle East and being stationed at foreign, permanent bases and so on.

However, I'd prefer that our responses to foreign-land disasters be more equal and NOT pending on what else we have going on in our country as well as our political leanings in DC, etc. I think thta we should provide sufficient and balanced aid to all countries in need no matter what.

Why should we provide aid to nations that hate us?

If Iran gets a big bumpy like Haiti just did, why should the US help them at all? it's not going to get us anything, it will only aid them in their persistent quest for WMD's.

If they don't like us when they're healthy, to hell with them when they're down.

They'll only bite us again when they're back on their feet.

Let some other nation be the world's patsy.
 
Why should we provide aid to nations that hate us?

If Iran gets a big bumpy like Haiti just did, why should the US help them at all? it's not going to get us anything, it will only aid them in their persistent quest for WMD's.

If they don't like us when they're healthy, to hell with them when they're down.

They'll only bite us again when they're back on their feet.

Let some other nation be the world's patsy.

Well, I could see providing aid to Iran as a method of improving our relations with it's people, if not it's leaders.

In addition to the general moral positive of helping people in need.
 
I definitely think we should help them as much as we are able, regardless if they remember or not.

I was watching ABC news, and they were talking about how supplies were sitting on an airstrip, waiting for the haiti government, UN, some other world food agency, and US military to coordinate drop off points for the water and other supplies.

I'm sorry, but if I am a military commander put in charge of the operation, I would say **** my commision and just set the **** up myself and get the supplies to the people. If we are on the scene, we don't need to wait for permission from some bueracrats to save ****ing lives. When I saw the US army general talking about how they had to wait, I wanted to strangle the ****er myself. Get your **** together and do something now. A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.
 
That's not hte point of providing humanitarian aide.

It might be related to it - but that's not the sole reason. People should always be willing to help people when they need help. I would want help if I was in a similar situation - sometimes your country just can't do everything for you.

I think too many people IN the US are spoiled by our efficiency and simply don't know what it's like to really be **** up a creek.


Very true
This is not about getting recognition or political points for helping. Its about helping t
 
Well, I could see providing aid to Iran as a method of improving our relations with it's people, if not it's leaders.

In addition to the general moral positive of helping people in need.

On the one hand I agree with you, but on the other, I ask...

Why should we try to improve out relations with them? What do we have to prove to them? The United States is a free nation. We're a nation of rights and liberty. Iran is an oppressive theocracy. Why in God's name should we try to convince anyone of our virtues!? They should know. They should understand that we're not the bad guys. Americans are the most charitable, caring people on the planet. I'm sick of trying to get all these assholes to like us. They have no reason to hate us...and if they do hate us, then let's settle it.
 
Laudable, but what are we using for money?
 
Why should we provide aid to nations that hate us?

If Iran gets a big bumpy like Haiti just did, why should the US help them at all? it's not going to get us anything, it will only aid them in their persistent quest for WMD's.

If they don't like us when they're healthy, to hell with them when they're down.

They'll only bite us again when they're back on their feet.

Let some other nation be the world's patsy.

I'll put it this way.

I'm white, and being white there are quite a few black people who don't like me - but, if they are in need due to some natural disaster and I am capable of helping - I will help regardless of their feelings towards me and I won't expect them to kiss my ass for it.

You guys are being dense and stubborn - advance. Sometimes how people feel about you shouldn't determine what you do for them.

I hate my bank but still expect them to provide fair service.
I hate Walmart but still expect to be able to shop htere.

And you're drawing huge, vast and incorrect assumptions between the PEOPLE of Haiti who don't care about us - or who actually like us - and politicians.

Not everyone has issues with us. What are we suppose to do? Give out questionaires and ask each person "do you like us" before we give aid?

Or I guess you support just letting children die and rot. . . sounds barbaric and invasive, to me.
 
Very true
This is not about getting recognition or political points for helping. Its about helping t

What about the United States? What about our debt? What about our grandchildren? What has Haiti ever done for the US? What has Haiti ever done for themselves?

Honestly, I could care less. We didn't do anything about Darfur, why do anything about this?

Private charity is fine. The government should just take this opportunity to tell the rest of the world...

Go to hell you ungrateful bastards. We're done bailing you out.
 
On the one hand I agree with you, but on the other, I ask...

Why should we try to improve out relations with them? What do we have to prove to them? The United States is a free nation. We're a nation of rights and liberty. Iran is an oppressive theocracy. Why in God's name should we try to convince anyone of our virtues!? They should know. They should understand that we're not the bad guys. Americans are the most charitable, caring people on the planet. I'm sick of trying to get all these assholes to like us. They have no reason to hate us...and if they do hate us, then let's settle it.

We don't have anything to prove.

But, it couldn't hurt to have a population who likes us for helping them resisting being led against us by their leaders.

And just think.

If we suddenly stopped helping in the various disasters...then it would seem those who don't like us would point and say "SEE!!!, we told you!"
 
That's not hte point of providing humanitarian aide.

It might be related to it - but that's not the sole reason. People should always be willing to help people when they need help. I would want help if I was in a similar situation - sometimes your country just can't do everything for you.

I think too many people IN the US are spoiled by our efficiency and simply don't know what it's like to really be **** up a creek.


Very true
This is not about getting recognition or political points for helping. Its about helping those clearly suffering from a horrible disaster and stopping it from turning into an even greater humanitarian disaster than it already is. If Europe or any other place in the world ****s on us then **** em its their problem. I am sure the Haitian man in the street appreciates any help from anyone and could care less about the politics.
 
I'll put it this way.

I'm white, and being white there are quite a few black people who don't like me - but, if they are in need due to some natural disaster and I am capable of helping - I will help regardless of their feelings towards me and I won't expect them to kiss my ass for it.

You guys are being dense and stubborn - advance. Sometimes how people feel about you shouldn't determine what you do for them.

I hate my bank but still expect them to provide fair service.
I hate Walmart but still expect to be able to shop htere.

And you're drawing huge, vast and incorrect assumptions between the PEOPLE of Haiti who don't care about us - or who actually like us - and politicians.

Not everyone has issues with us. What are we suppose to do? Give out questionaires and ask each person "do you like us" before we give aid?

Or I guess you support just letting children die and rot. . . sounds barbaric and invasive, to me.

The United States has its own problems, and that's the government's responsibility. If people want to donate privately then I commend them, but our government should concern itself with its job, i.e., the American people.
 
We don't have anything to prove.

Yea right. Why isn't anyone looking to China to sort this mess out?

But, it couldn't hurt to have a population who likes us for helping them resisting being led against us by their leaders.

They "like" us, so what? Who gives a crap?

And just think.

If we suddenly stopped helping in the various disasters...then it would seem those who don't like us would point and say "SEE!!!, we told you!"

They do that anyway, hence my bitterness.
 
I didn't say no one thought we had something to prove. I said we didn't have anything to prove.

As soon as our politicians agree with you I'll be content.

So, they are less likely to gleefully oppose us.

Oppose us in what regard? Like they can stop us?

Well, yeah. But they would have pseudo-proof.

And?
 
I was watching ABC news, and they were talking about how supplies were sitting on an airstrip, waiting for the haiti government, UN, some other world food agency, and US military to coordinate drop off points for the water and other supplies.

I'm sorry, but if I am a military commander put in charge of the operation, I would say **** my commision and just set the **** up myself and get the supplies to the people. If we are on the scene, we don't need to wait for permission from some bueracrats to save ****ing lives. When I saw the US army general talking about how they had to wait, I wanted to strangle the ****er myself. Get your **** together and do something now. A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.

I can't blame the commander. He knows his expertise is worth something in the long run, even if the Haitian people suffer in the short term. It's the government, the bureaucrats who are stopping him from doing what he would have done in their absence. Spineless, gutless little paper-pushers who live off of tax-dollars...
 
As soon as our politicians agree with you I'll be content.
Ain't gonna happen. Or at least HIGHLY unlikely.

Oppose us in what regard? Like they can stop us?
Well, no, but it would make any military attempt more difficult. And, now that I think about it, the tensions between us and Iran might lead the leadership of Iran to bar us from assisting in any disaster. They might think we intended to stay.


Just say’ in
 
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I can't blame the commander. He knows his expertise is worth something in the long run, even if the Haitian people suffer in the short term. It's the government, the bureaucrats who are stopping him from doing what he would have done in their absence. Spineless, gutless little paper-pushers who live off of tax-dollars...

Well if I am in his position, I have control of the guys on the ground with the guns, and I say deliver the aid as quickly as possible without regard to what the UN or any other organization says. Their lives aren't the ones in the balance.
 
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