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Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

If every politician who ever made a stupid comment were to resign over it, there wouldn't be anyone left in Washington.

Come to think of it, that might not be so bad. It would give us a chance to start over with new blood.
 
RightinNYC said:
Right out of the playbook:



Democrats launch counterattack to save Harry Reid's career - Mike Allen and Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

All that aside, the voting records of the Republicans who criticized him are simply a distraction from the point. The issue is not whether Republicans vote in a way that the NAACP likes, it's whether Harry Reid said some racist ****.

I don't know that he should resign over this, but that's primarily because I don't think people should resign for much of anything. What I do know is that if that exact quote had been uttered by Mitch McConnell or Jon Kyl, 80% of the Democrats defending Reid would have been:

1) Calling him a racist,
2) Calling for him to resign, and
3) Using this to paint the entire Republican party as racist
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And yet we get this exactly in reverse. At least I am consistent. I condemn politics like this on both sides. But I am sick and tired of the "well they did it(or would do it), so we should be able to too" argument. It's juvenile and petty. We need to back off and let politicians make the occasional stupid comment(and this was only stupid in presentation, not in content), and stop using every little thing for partisan gains.
 
Dittohead not! said:
If every politician who ever made a stupid comment were to resign over it, there wouldn't be anyone left in Washington.

Come to think of it, that might not be so bad. It would give us a chance to start over with new blood.
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WAY TO GO with the double standard.

The Democrats INSIST and DEMAND and THREATEN RIOTS when a Republican has a slip of the tongue. Time for them to start living up to the standards they impose, isn't it?
 
Hatuey said:
Ebonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Dialect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



I think it is very much a dialect. I don't see white people speaking ebonics. I don't see chinese kids speaking ebonics. I don't see Mexicans speaking ebonics. It is used by blacks in this country. A particular group of the US English speakers. But if you don't want to look at the details. I mean you can say it's not a proper way to speak French. But neither is Cajun French. They speak French. But it is not proper and you'd fail a french test if you tried to get by with it. I seriously do not see why people are so angry over this. Obama speaks Ebonics when he wants to? So the **** what?
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Ebonics is a joke term referring to the patois the uneducated/undereducated descendants of former slaves exercise. Descendants of former slaves taught to speak English correctly without sharecropper/ghetto accent cannot be identified as "black" on the telephone.

And Reid is a racist POS, as we can all tell by his choice of party affiliation.
 
Hatuey said:
I stated that outside of black people the only ones who speak ebonics in my experience are wiggers. People trying to be black and act black.
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You're wrong.

"Ebonics" is nothing more than trash talk, and I've known many white trailer trash emigrees from South Carolina that would be confused for black people on the telephone, if they could afford one.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
WAY TO GO with the double standard.

The Democrats INSIST and DEMAND and THREATEN RIOTS when a Republican has a slip of the tongue. Time for them to start living up to the standards they impose, isn't it?
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Exactly Scarecrow, have the dems forgot about what they did with Trent Lott? The double standard and PC crap has to stop. The politicians are the true scumbags of the earth. Personally I don't care what Sen. Reid has to say about Obama or any one else, but our elected leaders should be held to a higher standard than others. Our elected officials are how we are seen all over the world. It is sad that our politicians Dems and Repubs are a national embarrasment.
 
rhinefire said:
Can someone give me the date, time and place in history when it became a crime against the state to use the word "negro"? Irregardless, I don't recall any "dark skinned" "Afro Americans" in any of Americas' glamour magazines. Can someone name me ONE television show or commercial where the character is a very dark negro/black/African American/whatever??? Anyone? Someone? Anyone have a local news station with very dake skinned personnel? Do they sound "morelike" white people or ghetto blacks when they speak?
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Homicide: Life in the Streets, a Dick Wolfe production.

The chief detective was black, and in one show he had the hots for some other black chick, but she dumped him because he was "too black". That show also had another black man who played one of the more important detectives.

Ain't gonna give names because that show is ten years off my radar, and hell, all those black people look alike nohow, so who can keep track of them?

(And I wonder how many terrorists....er Democrats are going to pretend they don't see the joke in that last sentence?)
 
HILLBILLY said:
Exactly Scarecrow, have the dems forgot about what they did with Trent Lott? The double standard and PC crap has to stop. The politicians are the true scumbags of the earth. Personally I don't care what Sen. Reid has to say about Obama or any one else, but our elected leaders should be held to a higher standard than others. Our elected officials are how we are seen all over the world. It is sad that our politicians Dems and Repubs are a national embarrasment.
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Vacant Lott?

Forget him!

They themselves used this "standard" to stop Rush Limbaugh from buying a share in a football team, just last month or so.

So their lack of standars is evident. If it's a white talk show host promoting positive American values, they're allowed to take everything out of context, smear him, and deny him his free exercise of his rights, but if a Democrat makes a clearly racist remark, understood to be so in it's proper context, well, that's just fine, he's "apologized" and everything is right with the universe again.
 
aps said:
But we are not going to stand idly by while hypocritical Republicans take swipes at Senator Reid, distorting his record of achievement and their own record of failure.
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The hypocrites are the Democrats.


As usual.
 
Harshaw said:
No, Kali, in fact, I am not kidding you, nor anyone else. It's quite possible indeed for something to be tasteless without being racist.
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Yes.

Harry's comment does not fall into that category. It was clearly racist, clearly bigoted, and clearly demonstrates the true feelings of the liberal elitist Democrat.

If they didn't hate black people and look down on them, how could they presume to run their lives for them?
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
The hypocrites are the Democrats.


As usual.
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Ya, the little twirp Reid just spoke and said that the LA Times and the Huffington Post wrote nice things about him today - LOL - if that doesn't tell all.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Vacant Lott?

Forget him!

They themselves used this "standard" to stop Rush Limbaugh from buying a share in a football team, just last month or so.

So their lack of standars is evident. If it's a white talk show host promoting positive American values, they're allowed to take everything out of context, smear him, and deny him his free exercise of his rights, but if a Democrat makes a clearly racist remark, understood to be so in it's proper context, well, that's just fine, he's "apologized" and everything is right with the universe again.
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Just making a point Scarecrow. Yeah Rush was blackballed by the libs.
 
Kali said:
And yet some one here refuse Rush is a Racist! :shock:
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He is not but even if he was its not the same as the leader in the senate......Limbaugh is a private citizen...
 
Speaking of Limbaugh...he made a great point today...

Why is everyone up in arms over Reid but not for Pres Clinton's remark to Sen Kennedy saying "a few years ago this guy (Obama) would be serving us coffee".
 
texmaster said:
I'd demand his resignation but the election will beat me to it.
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I'd demand his resignation, but liberals/Dems dont hold their people to the same standard that they hold Republicans, so it would never happen, and said demand would be a waste of time.
 
Telecaster said:
Speaking of Limbaugh...he made a great point today...

Why is everyone up in arms over Reid but not for Pres Clinton's remark to Sen Kennedy saying "a few years ago this guy (Obama) would be serving us coffee".
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Because Reid's comment was a derogatory that it suggests that a black man that doesn't meet his description is a rarity.

Comment about serving coffee is actually true though he should have said decades and not years.
 
Partisan said:
Since when is it wrong to speak the truth?....:confused:
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I for one agree. I do not feel he said anything wrong. And yes some black people speak very differently then your typical white person. I felt he was saying that america (probably talking more about the white population) could be ready to elect a black man that presents himself as an educated black man. I feel he was correct. I do not believe we would have (white population) elected a "geto" sounding black man. They simply would have been to alienated from what the white population veiw themselves as.
 
Baralis said:
I for one agree. I do not feel he said anything wrong. And yes some black people speak very differently then your typical white person. I felt he was saying that america (probably talking more about the white population) could be ready to elect a black man that presents himself as an educated black man. I feel he was correct. I do not believe we would have (white population) elected a "geto" sounding black man. They simply would have been to alienated from what the white population veiw themselves as.
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That's a ridiculous assumption - White people voted for Obama knowing that he is a Muslim - a Black Muslim at that - according to your assumption, if he had spoken like a "geto" Black he would have had more of a chance - they still voted for him, even after 9/11, so color and religion had no play in the game - White people vote for who they think would be OK in the job.

What the twirp Reid said was racist - he will be removed come November.
 
Tom Jones said:
That's a ridiculous assumption - White people voted for Obama knowing that he is a Muslim - a Black Muslim at that - according to your assumption, if he had spoken like a "geto" Black he would have had more of a chance - they still voted for him, even after 9/11, so color and religion had no play in the game - White people vote for who they think would be OK in the job.

What the twirp Reid said was racist - he will be removed come November.
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:confused:

Obama is not a Muslim.
 
Tom Jones said:
That's a ridiculous assumption - White people voted for Obama knowing that he is a Muslim - a Black Muslim at that - according to your assumption, if he had spoken like a "geto" Black he would have had more of a chance - they still voted for him, even after 9/11, so color and religion had no play in the game - White people vote for who they think would be OK in the job.

What the twirp Reid said was racist - he will be removed come November.
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I think you misread part of my post. I believe if Obama spoke like a "geto" black man he would have had very little chance to be elected by white america.
 
Baralis said:
I think you misread part of my post. I believe if Obama spoke like a "geto" black man he would have had very little chance to be elected by white america.
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Which is a legit point. Reid was making a entirely relevant point, which is that Obama, in appearance and speech, is close enough to "white" that people could think of him as "one of us". He expressed it poorly, but the point was legit.
 
Baralis said:
I think you misread part of my post. I believe if Obama spoke like a "geto" black man he would have had very little chance to be elected by white america.
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That's wrong to think like that about White people. White people listened to his Reverend Wright speak worse than a ghetto boy ever could, yet they still voted for him.
 
Redress said:
Which is a legit point. Reid was making a entirely relevant point, which is that Obama, in appearance and speech, is close enough to "white" that people could think of him as "one of us". He expressed it poorly, but the point was legit.
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So, you are saying that there is something wrong with a Black man who speaks like a Black man? And what exactly does a Black man really sound like?
 
Tom Jones said:
So, you are saying that there is something wrong with a Black man who speaks like a Black man? And what exactly does a Black man really sound like?
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Did I say that? Funny, I don't remember saying that. I spent six years in the navy, trust me when I say there is no uniform "black dialect". However, the point that some one who talks and looks mainstream is more electable stands.
 
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