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Reid apologizes for 'no Negro dialect' comment

Ethereal said:
I just can't believe he'd say something so utterly moronic. That sounds like something a plantation owner would say about his house servant.
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No, it sounds like a Democrat.

Oh, wait, the plantation owners were Democrats, weren't they?

Yes they were.
 
hazlnut said:
A ignorant racist remark from a prominent Democrat. Right-wing pundits will keep this one alive for as long as possible.

Maybe if Harry Reid put it on a CD or a mass email the GOP would be more understanding.
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Shouldn't they?

Explain what happened to Vacant Lott.
 
Glinda said:
If that is true, then they're all just as myopic, biased, and intransigent as you are. Great appeal to populism! :doh
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Or maybe you're just being uptight, self-important, and are incapable of recognizing the manifestly obvious difference between "redneck" and the n-bomb.

Wiki is right. They're all ethnic slurs. Do you disagree?
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I don't disagree that for each of them, there are some people who might perceive them as slights. What you don't seem to understand is that that does not automatically render them all equivalent in terms of offensiveness.

There are thousands of terms that some people might find offensive. Where do you draw the line? Is it only those that are on wiki? Does there have to be a certain percentage of people who think they're offensive? Is it only the ones that you find offensive?

I really don't know what to say, as you're so far out in left field here that it's almost pointless to continue explaining this to you.

"Outrage?" :rofl No. I both pity such people and feel terribly ashamed for them. If I think they're reasonably non-partisan or of moderate intelligence, I try to educate them.
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When you hear someone mention the word "redneck," "paddywagon," or "guido," you take that as an invitation to explain to that person why you think it's wrong because someone could conceivably be offended? If someone is rooting for the Redskins or the Indians, you interject to explain that those terms are outdated and racist and that those fans should feel ashamed of themselves? You sound like the life of the party.
 
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texmaster said:
Oh come on. You can't be serious. There's a negro dialect?
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Sure there is. "Wsup whoadie? Yo, where you cop that bling from? You mad icy right now... stunt on these niggaz, son! Ayo word life... keep it 100... son you seen my shorty creepin 'bout an hour ago? My baby moms be on some otha ****".

I'm fluent.
 
Blackdog said:
Maybe, maybe not. We will never know.

For you to state it matter of factly is wrong.
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I disagree. It was how things were viewed at the time. Of course we can not go back in time, elect a Republican President and find out. However, to claim that it was a Democrat policy is dishonest. It was a reaction to the time period, not to politics.
 
zimmer said:
Did you notice the voting percentages inserted?

It holds water.

Did you notice Republicans have been central to EVERY race measure passed?

It holds water.

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It's irrelevant. You are confusing political party with political ideology. It doesn't hold water in the least.
 
Ethereal said:
He didn't have to say "negro dialect". That's just plain ignorant.

He could have simply said Obama is articulate, or he could've abstained from the presumption that black people all talk with a "negro dialect" and that Obama was an exotic exception to that stereotype.

No matter how you slice it, it's a profoundly idiotic statement.
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Do you speak ebonics? Do you know anybody outside of wiggers who do? :confused:
 
Didn't the entire GOP come out to defend it's party over putting Barrack The Magic Negro on CD? I guess that was alright.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You are confusing political party with political ideology.
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Perhaps, but keep in mind that he was responding in an exchange which started from Kali defining things in terms of party, not ideology.


And one other point. Roosevelt interning Japanese-Americans during WWII was absolutely wrong, but was not Democrat policy.
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How do you separate the policy from the party? The Democrats were entirely in charge.

Also, those same Democrats -- Roosevelt especially -- are icons of the modern party. Most of what they did would be, and are, accepted readily as "Democrat policy." How do you separate the onerous policy you don't like but keep the others?

It was policy of the time.
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If that's the escape clause, then you can say that about any policy by anyone of any party at any time, and no party has any policy at all.


If a Republican had been President, same thing would have happened.
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There's no way to know that. Nor is there any to know that if a Republican had been President instead of Truman, thousands of German-Americans would have remained interned for years after the war.
 
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Hatuey said:
Didn't the entire GOP come out to defend it's party over putting Barrack The Magic Negro on CD? I guess that was alright.
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Got a source?
 
RightinNYC said:
OMG how DARE you say wiggers! You're as bad as Clayton Bigsby!
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Hatuey said:
Didn't the entire GOP come out to defend it's party over putting Barrack The Magic Negro on CD? I guess that was alright.
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If I remember, the reactions were pretty mixed. I remember some members of the party supporting it as harmless parody, while others condemned it.
 
American said:
Got a source?
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Here is just a 4 minute research on Barack the Magic Negro GOP :

'Magic Negro' flap might help Saltsman - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com

Not everyone is so sure, with some RNC members contending that Anuzis and Duncan may have actually hurt their candidacies with their responses.

“Those are two guys who just eliminated themselves from this race for jumping all over Chip on this,” one committee member told Politico. “Mike Duncan is a nice guy, but he screwed up big time by pandering to the national press on this.”
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The song, written shortly after the publication of the Times column, was first played on the Rush Limbaugh radio show. On Monday, Limbaugh prominently re-posted the song on the top left corner of his website above the headline, “Drive-by media misreporting of ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ song.”
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“I don’t think he intended it as any kind of racial slur. I think he intended it as a humor gift,” Oklahoma GOP Committeewoman Carolyn McClarty added. “I think it was innocently done by Chip.”
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Alabama Republican Committeeman Paul Reynolds said the fact the Saltsman sent him a CD with the song on it “didn’t bother me one bit.”

“Chip probably could have thought it through a bit more, but he was doing everyone a favor by giving us a gift,” he said. “This is just people looking for something to make an issue of.”
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“When I heard about the story, I had to figure out what was going on for myself,” said Mark Ellis, the chairman of the Maine Republican Party. “When I found out what this was about I had to ask, ‘Boy, what’s the big deal here?’ because there wasn’t any.”
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Even the negros in your party came out to defend it.

"Unfortunately, there is hypersensitivity in the press regarding matters of race. This is in large measure due to President-Elect Obama being the first African-American elected president," said Blackwell, who would be the first black RNC Chairman, in a statement forwarded to Politico by an aide. "I don't think any of the concerns that have been expressed in the media about any of the other candidates for RNC chairman should disqualify them. When looked at in the proper context, these concerns are minimal. All of my competitors for this leadership post are fine people
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Some of our own right wing posters:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-controversial-obama-song.html#post1057861370

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ontroversial-obama-song-2.html#post1057861595

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ontroversial-obama-song-3.html#post1057861893

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...ontroversial-obama-song-4.html#post1057862281

Want to keep going? Cause I got a gang of that ****.
 
 
Reid is a scum bag..............He is supposed to be a devout mormon but he violates every mormon law..........He will be history in November............He trails by a big margin in every poll......
 
Unfortunately, Harry is just a product of an older generation of people who thought it was okay to negatively steryotype specific people. Appologizing for using an offensive term certainly doesn't desensitize the fact that he just offended millions and millions of people. It doesn't suddenly make everything okay again. Basically what I'm saying is that he's a dumb***.
 
Harshaw said:
OK, what's your point here? I couldn't tell from the context.
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The right that is calling for Reid's resignation over this is the same who had no problem with so many of it's members supporting Barack the Magic Negro songs. I guess it's okay now because Red said Obama didn't speak Ebonics i.e Negro Dialect.
 
Hatuey said:
The right that is calling for Reid's resignation over this is the same who had no problem with so many of it's members supporting Barack the Magic Negro songs. I guess it's okay now because Red said Obama didn't speak Ebonics i.e Negro Dialect.
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The originator of those songs was Limbaugh not the Republican members of congress.....try again...........
 
Hey Cap'n... you don't see too many Dixiecrats that went to the R-side.
Look how many Lefty's became senators.

I, I, I, I, done say you bettah take a bettah look at yo fakks young maihn.

Try, try ag'in.

* Harry F. Byrd (D-VA), 1933–1965
* A. Willis Robertson (D-VA), 1946–1966
* John C. Stennis (D-MS), 1947–1989
* James O. Eastland (D-MS), 1941–1941, 1943–1978
* Allen J. Ellender (D-LA), 1937–1972
* Russell B. Long (D-LA), 1948–1987
* Thomas Pryor Gore (D-OK), 1906–1921, 1931–1937
* J. Lister Hill (D-AL), 1938–1969
* John J. Sparkman (D-AL), 1946–1979
* Spessard Holland (D-FL), 1946–1971
* George Smathers (D-FL), 1951–1969
* Olin D. Johnston (D-SC), 1945–1965
* Strom Thurmond (D,R-SC), 1954–1956, 1956–2003
* John McClellan (D-AR), 1943–1977
* Richard B. Russell, Jr. (D-GA), 1933–1971
* Herman E. Talmadge (D-GA), 1957–1981
* Herbert S. Walters (D-TN), 1963–1964
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and Jesse Helms.... in the switcheroo to an R

Benjamin Travis Laney- D- 33rd Governor of Arkansas from 1945-1949.

Fielding Lewis Wright D Lieutenant Governor of Mississippi from 1944 to 1946

Frank Murray Dixon D 40th Governor of Alabama from 1939 to 1943

William Henry Davis D He was the first Speaker of the Oklahoma House of Representatives, U.S. Representative, and Governor.

Mills Edwin Godwin, Jr. D Governor of Virginia for two non-consecutive terms, from 1966 to 1970 and from 1974 until 1978.

Let's not forget Bill Clinton's Segregationist mentor: Sen J. William Fulbright.

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It's kind of bizarre how things come out months later. Remember Obama saying something like, " The typical white woman"? That came and went. Reid saying this in light of Obama was just as bad. What is alarming to me is that he mentioned dialect. He knew better. It's time for Harry to retire. I think he's old school and has that mindset.
 
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