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New Jersey Senate Defeats Gay Marriage Bill

Navy Pride said:
Even though I usually vote Republican, I am actually voting against the democrat like Gore, Kerry, and Hussein Obama.....I might not be crazy about Bush and McCain but they are a hell of a lot better then the people I have mentioned............I am a rib rocked Conservative who votes for whom I think is the best man regardless of their party.......
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It is not who you vote for that makes you look like a neocon, in fact I don't care. It is the policy's you want to see implemented or not. Your actual posts make you look like a neocon. You are, you sound just like me 5 or 6 years ago.
 
disneydude said:
What is the "gay lifestyle"?

Being Gay is a suitable alternative to being straight. More and more people recognize that every day. You are losing that battle old man.
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As state aafter state defeats gay marriage......31-0 now........Boy do you live in a state of denial............
 
Blackdog said:
To be honest I have not noticed only because I don't care, lol.

You mean like Goldendog being an independent? Yea he mite be, but so what? You never call out any of the more liberal people around here who do exactly the same thing. Rather hypocritical don't you think? Not to mention it has nothing to do with the thread.



Big government social agenda? You mean not wanting more waist of time laws?



Well it would not be the first time your perception was inaccurate.
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I only call out Navy...because he makes such a big deal of calling out others whom he believes don't fit their profiles.
As for the Big Government social agenda, Navy is probably one of the biggest advocates on this board for more government involvement in the social agenda and for more and bigger government involvement in "security issues".
Most "conservatives" I know are against bigger government.
 
Navy Pride said:
You are right, it has nothing to do with marriage, it has to do with accepting the gay lifestyle as a suitable alternative lifestyle............
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Hahaha. And what? Wake up Navy Pride. It is 2010. We have MacBook Pros, 3D movies and black people in high political offices now. 50% divorce rates, single parent households, gay couples living together in plain sight, interracial couples. We no longer live in the 1950s. And how glad am I. In the last 50 years, society has made more cultural jumps than one could count. And you? You've stayed behind. You've closed yourself to the world. And now the world has forgotten about traditions and refuses to allow people to impose their morality on others. Seriously, do you honestly think that a measly 30 states is enough to stop a ball which has been in motion for 80+ years?
 
Navy Pride said:
As state aafter state defeats gay marriage......31-0 now........Boy do you live in a state of denial............
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So what? When you look at the shift in polling and combine it with demographics, its obvious that your side is on the losing side of the war. You might be winning the battles, but each battle you are losing more and more of your arsenal....its only a matter of time and will happen much sooner than I even thought possible.
 
Blackdog said:
It is not who you vote for that makes you look like a neocon, in fact I don't care. It is the policy's you want to see implemented or not. Your actual posts make you look like a neocon. You are, you sound just like me 5 or 6 years ago.
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If you think I am a neocon so be it.......again I am so very proud of my neo conservatism...............

If being a neo con means your for small government, less taxes, anti abortion, anti gay marraige, etc....... then I proudly plead guilty................
 
disneydude said:
I only call out Navy...because he makes such a big deal of calling out others whom he believes don't fit their profiles.
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Again I don't know. So you may be right.

disneydude said:
As for the Big Government social agenda, Navy is probably one of the biggest advocates on this board for more government involvement in the social agenda and for more and bigger government involvement in "security issues".
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What is this "social agenda" I am also against gay marraige, this does not make me a big government socialist.

I do support civil unions as I have said before.

disneydude said:
Most "conservatives" I know are against bigger government.
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Most conservatives have mixed views on the role and size of government. Just like everyone else, one persons program is another's waist. I know conservatives who want private police forces. I would be totally against that.

You are trying to classify all conservatives based on your own biased observations. This is not bad, but it is not accurate.
 
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Navy Pride said:
If you think I am a neocon so be it.......again I am so very proud of my neo conservatism...............

If being a neo con means your for small government, less taxes, anti abortion, anti gay marraige, etc....... then I proudly plead guilty................
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I am not bashing your politics, just calling like I see it.

It's funny you really do sound like I did back in my Protest Warrior Days.

I am so glad I saw the light. Light as in the dangers of both party's and the blind partisans.
 
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Blackdog said:
Again I don't know. So you may be right.



What is this "social agenda" I am also against gay marraige, this does not make me a big government socialist.

I do support civil unions as I have said before.



Most conservatives have mixed views on the role and size of government. Just like everyone else, one persons program is another waist. I know conservatives who want private police forces. I would be totally against that.

You are trying to classify all conservatives based on your own biased observations. This is not bad, but it is not accurate.
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DD is a ambulance chaser (Lawyer) .He thinks he is in a court room.....do you notice how he diverts from the subject of this thread over and over again and trys tto make me the subject........
 
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Navy Pride said:
DD is a ambulance chase (Lawyer) .He thinks he is in a court room.....do you notice how he diverts from the subject of this thread over and over again and trys tto make me the subject........
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It does seem that way.

You on the other hand don't have to make fun of his job.

You both just need to relax a little and get back to the issue of gay marraige, lol.
 
Blackdog said:
I am not bashing your politics, just calling like I see it.

It's funny you really do sound like I did back in my Protest Warrior Days.

I am so glad I saw the light.
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It really does not matter..........I have been a member of this forum since mid 2005 and have been fighting DD radical liberalism and all radical liberalism all that time because if they win it will destroy this country........Hell just in the 10 months Hussein Obama look how far we have fallen........Trillion dollar deficits, bowing down to ever arab country in the world and telling them this is not a Judeo/christian country...........Un believeable............
 
Navy Pride said:
It really does not matter..........I have been a member of this forum since mid 2005 and have been fighting DD radical liberalism and all radical liberalism all that time because if they win it will destroy this country........Hell just in the 10 months Hussein Obama look how far we have fallen........Trillion dollar deficits, bowing down to ever arab country in the world and telling them this is not a Judeo/christian country...........Un believeable............
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Ummmm....

Why do you use his middle name?

Liberalism will not destroy the country. Apathy is what will bring us down.

His deficits are bad, no worse than what Bush started.

We are a country with a Christan majority, but we are not a Judeo-Christian country. Never have been and we never will be. Freedom of religion is to important.
 
Navy Pride said:
It really does not matter..........I have been a member of this forum since mid 2005 and have been fighting DD radical liberalism and all radical liberalism all that time because if they win it will destroy this country........Hell just in the 10 months Hussein Obama look how far we have fallen........Trillion dollar deficits, bowing down to ever arab country in the world and telling them this is not a Judeo/christian country...........Un believeable............
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Haha. By the looks of the last 40 years, your losing the fight. Give up. Go with the flow.
 
Hatuey said:
Go to SCOTUS. Have fun fighting for what you want like everybody else and while you're at it? Stop diluting this ****ing issue with slippery slope arguments.
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You're very confused. I have no problem with gay marriage or polygamy. My statement was purposely meant to be silly...
 
bicycleman said:
God made man with a penis. God made woman with a vagina. They fit together in the natural cycle of life, opposites. Electrical cables are built the same way, male to female. Two males don't normally fit together. Two females don't normally fit together. The penis was not made for the anus. One male donating sperm to the anal cavity of another male does not create a baby. It is against the natural order of things and impossible to create a baby.
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God located vagina and anus very close to each other.
Penis and anus fit well together.
I think God is giving us a hint there to use our cognizance to explore and make choices.
 
roderic said:
God located vagina and anus very close to each other.
Penis and anus fit well together.
I think God is giving us a hint there to use our cognizance to explore and make choices.
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:shock:

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roderic said:
God located vagina and anus very close to each other.
Penis and anus fit well together.
I think God is giving us a hint there to use our cognizance to explore and make choices.
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:rofl

That's awesome.
 
Blackdog said:
Ummmm....

Why do you use his middle name?

Liberalism will not destroy the country. Apathy is what will bring us down.

His deficits are bad, no worse than what Bush started.

We are a country with a Christan majority, but we are not a Judeo-Christian country. Never have been and we never will be. Freedom of religion is to important.
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Because that is his given name.......

Guess you have not been around for the last 10 months...Do you have any idea how much a trillion dollars is?

They are just the biggest deficits in the history of this country............Hussein Obama has spent more money then the combined spending of all the presidents since the American revolution........Your kids (if you have kids) are going to pay for it my friend.........

Hmmm 85 percent of this country are jewish or christian....To me that makes it a judeo christian country..........

I wonder do you call Iraq or Saudi Arabia a Muslim country? Why do you have a problem callin the U.S. a Judeo Christian country?
 
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roderic said:
God located vagina and anus very close to each other.
Penis and anus fit well together.
I think God is giving us a hint there to use our cognizance to explore and make choices.
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I have a flash for you my left wing friend..........The anus primary mission is and out take not and in take.........
 
Navy Pride said:
And you of course are willing to pay all the taxes needed to provide the benefits for all these marriages.......:rofl
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But it's alright to pay those taxes for a privileged class? Why do straights demand extra rights?

This is why government has no business being involved - it discriminates.

I don't want my taxes going to anyone's marriage.
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
But it's alright to pay those taxes for a privileged class? Why do straights demand extra rights?

This is why government has no business being involved - it discriminates.

I don't want my taxes going to anyone's marriage.
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What extra rights?:confused:Gays have the same rights I have...they can marry anyone of the opposite sex.......They want a special right that a lot of people like Polygamysts and othe groups defines by their sexual preference don't have........
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
But it's alright to pay those taxes for a privileged class? Why do straights demand extra rights?

This is why government has no business being involved - it discriminates.

I don't want my taxes going to anyone's marriage.
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Then vote it out..........we live in a republic..........tht is the way we do things here...........
 
Navy Pride said:
Then vote it out..........we live in a republic..........tht is the way we do things here...........
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You're very confused. Remember, states are bound by the provisions of the 14th amendment and can't vote in discriminatory laws and expect them to last. At some point the courts will step in, apply the Constitution and shoot these anti-GM laws down. It'll happen soon enough.
 
Well it looks like this thread has pooped out....Let me sumarize by saying that I think its great that a very liberal state like NJ rejects gay marriage........So far its 31-0 rejecting it...........That means that there is a groundswell for traditional marriage.....The silent majority is speaking and will continue to do so in every state that allows a vote of the people to take place..........That would happen even in Mass. where activist judges violated the constitution with their ruling......God help the people of Mass get a chance to express their constitutional right some day and I would love to see a 50-0 vote banning gay marriage...

God bless the USA
 
CrusaderRabbit08 said:
You're very confused. Remember, states are bound by the provisions of the 14th amendment and can't vote in discriminatory laws and expect them to last. At some point the courts will step in, apply the Constitution and shoot these anti-GM laws down. It'll happen soon enough.
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I am not the one confused my left wing friend.........That is how we do it here....We voted our politicians in and if they do something we don't like we vote the subject by a referendum...........That is exactly what happened in liberal Caifornia........
 
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