Different Taliban claim responsibility

Charles Martel · Jan 2, 2010

Different Taliban Groups Claim Role in Afghanistan Bombing - NYTimes.com

In another stark reminder that we are at war and that we are losing civilians....

KABUL, Afghanistan — Both Afghan and Pakistani Taliban groups claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing this week that killed eight Americans — seven of them C.I.A. officers — suggesting that the attack was viewed as a success and could be used to gain recruits and financial support.

Our enemies fistfight over who gets credit. In another thread, it was being asked who we are at war with, what is the target, who is the enemy, where are they, all of your answers....right there.

And here...

Both the Afghan and Pakistani Taliban rely in part on money from foreign donors. Attacks that kill members of the international coalition make the groups seem successful and prompt donors to believe that their support is buying results and to send more money.

we're at war with 'donors' mentioned here as well.

Are there anymore questions concerning who we're at war with?

texmaster · Jan 2, 2010

Charles Martel said:
Different Taliban Groups Claim Role in Afghanistan Bombing - NYTimes.com

In another stark reminder that we are at war and that we are losing civilians....

Our enemies fistfight over who gets credit. In another thread, it was being asked who we are at war with, what is the target, who is the enemy, where are they, all of your answers....right there.

And here...

we're at war with 'donors' mentioned here as well.

Are there anymore questions concerning who we're at war with?

Nope.

For some all the evidence in the world won't be enough.

Skateguy · Jan 2, 2010

I forget--how we know when we have won this war again??---Will there be a whistle blow or something.

texmaster · Jan 2, 2010

Skateguy said:
I forget--how we know when we have won this war again??---Will there be a whistle blow or something.

You should be more concerned with the threat of loosing it.

RightinNYC · Jan 2, 2010

Charles Martel said:
Different Taliban Groups Claim Role in Afghanistan Bombing - NYTimes.com

In another stark reminder that we are at war and that we are losing civilians....

Our enemies fistfight over who gets credit. In another thread, it was being asked who we are at war with, what is the target, who is the enemy, where are they, all of your answers....right there.

And here...

we're at war with 'donors' mentioned here as well.

Are there anymore questions concerning who we're at war with?

Who is saying that we're not at war with the Taliban and AQ?

texmaster · Jan 2, 2010

RightinNYC said:
Who is saying that we're not at war with the Taliban and AQ?

The Obama administration. By insisting on treating terrorists like criminals instead of terrorists sends a very clear message.

Also his administration's redefinition of war on terrorism.

In a memo e-mailed this week to Pentagon staff members, the Defense Department's office of security review noted that "this administration prefers to avoid using the term 'Long War' or 'Global War on Terror' [GWOT.] Please use 'Overseas Contingency Operation.' "

'Global War On Terror' Is Given New Name - washingtonpost.com

He also has not given one single speech his entire presidency that's main subject was the war on terrorism.

RightinNYC · Jan 2, 2010

texmaster said:
The Obama administration. By insisting on treating terrorists like criminals instead of terrorists sends a very clear message.

http://www.justice.gov/opa/documents/memo-re-det-auth.pdf

Skateguy · Jan 2, 2010

texmaster said:
You should be more concerned with the threat of loosing it.

How would we loose it?? will camel Jockeys get in big dug outs, and row over here?

Charles Martel · Jan 2, 2010

Skateguy said:
How would we loose it?? will camel Jockeys get in big dug outs, and row over here?

They're not camel jockeys. They're trained and intelligent engineers, soldiers, assassins. Many have knowledge of explosives, many specialize in every type of mercenary warfare, nearly all inspired by a religion that has been inspiring men who are heedless of death into killing the infidel for centuries.

And ask this Cat who leaped over two rows of seats and onto our Nigerian undergarment bomber on board a fkight into the US where the potential airlner bomber pays cash for a ticket, a one way ticket, and then hops on a US bound flight without but a small carry on. Ask him if they're 'rowing' over here in dug outs. He might ask you if you've been sound asleep though....just sayin.

American · Jan 2, 2010

Charles Martel said:
Different Taliban Groups Claim Role in Afghanistan Bombing - NYTimes.com

In another stark reminder that we are at war and that we are losing civilians....

Our enemies fistfight over who gets credit. In another thread, it was being asked who we are at war with, what is the target, who is the enemy, where are they, all of your answers....right there.

And here...

we're at war with 'donors' mentioned here as well.

Are there anymore questions concerning who we're at war with?

What if we sneak a nuke over to Tora-Bora and then fire it at Iran. Then they retaliate by firing theirs at Tora-Bora. :mrgreen:

Charles Martel · Jan 2, 2010

American said:
What if we sneak a nuke over to Tora-Bora and then fire it at Iran. Then they retaliate by firing theirs at Tora-Bora. :mrgreen:

That would be profiling.:mrgreen:

MKULTRABOY · Jan 3, 2010

texmaster said:
You should be more concerned with the threat of loosing it.

:rofl

Yes, every champion fighter imagines his loss to win.

Yes, lets just take the most barbaric imagery we can think of and apply it to them. Let us repeat mantras. They want to nuke our cities and kill our babies. This way we can 'take the gloves off' and get the job done for real.

They're not camel jockeys. They're trained and intelligent engineers, soldiers, assassins. Many have knowledge of explosives, many specialize in every type of mercenary warfare, nearly all inspired by a religion that has been inspiring men who are heedless of death into killing the infidel for centuries.

:rofl You read comic books? Most of them are uneducated ignorant hill people that are religiously inspired and join for the cash, with 33% vacation time, better pay than they could ever get doing anything in their hometowns. Sure there are a few 'elite' terrorists and certain peoples would be extremely valuable to them. I dont know where you get this hardened mercenary concept, or elite assassin crap from. Most of them fire with their goddamned eyes closed 'god willing' the bullets land on the target. Gimme a break.

And ask this Cat who leaped over two rows of seats and onto our Nigerian undergarment bomber on board a fkight into the US where the potential airlner bomber pays cash for a ticket, a one way ticket, and then hops on a US bound flight without but a small carry on. Ask him if they're 'rowing' over here in dug outs. He might ask you if you've been sound asleep though....just sayin.

Yeah lets stop every brown person with no carryon and a one way ticket. Thats sounds like its gonna stop alot of people. Solution for the terrorists: fake luggage. Gimme a break.

Feel free to bitch and whine how I love terrorists and don't really want to win the war. If people like you were in charge wed be carrying out a losing genocide against a whole segment of the earth's population.

:rofl

The terrorist is a deadly assassin - a trained mercenary - he has been killing infidels for centuries and we must destroy him
:rofl

Seriously, what other disney caricatures do you have in your minds? Let's talk about Mexicans.

Gawd...:roll:

Charles Martel · Jan 4, 2010

SE102 said:
Yeah lets stop every brown person with no carryon and a one way ticket. Thats sounds like its gonna stop alot of people. Solution for the terrorists: fake luggage. Gimme a break.

No, let's not stop a 23 year old who is recently traveling from Yemen, paying over $2,000 in cash for a one way ticket and carrying no luggage because he's brown and we're afriad to offend anyone. Because...in this country...regardless of color of skin or ethnicity....a one way ticket paid for in cash is a immediate red flag. So, I'll give you a break...it's your argument here that's broken..and hand it back to you in pieces. Gladly.

Feel free to bitch and whine how I love terrorists and don't really want to win the war. If people like you were in charge wed be carrying out a losing genocide against a whole segment of the earth's population.

I love this argument. Feel free to carry on about how you love terrorist, but we need to realize genocide is the ramifications of any alternative argument. What poppycock.

The terrorist is a deadly assassin - a trained mercenary - he has been killing infidels for centuries and we must destroy him

This terrorist was an assassin. And did receive training, even Obama has come back off his "isolated extremist" mentality. Or so he says.

Seriously, what other disney caricatures do you have in your minds? Let's talk about Mexicans.

I'd rather talk about liberals. The Left leaning members of our forum who are in a solid and clear misunderstanding of the threats facing our nation today.

MKULTRABOY · Jan 5, 2010

Charles Martel said:
No, let's not stop a 23 year old who is recently traveling from Yemen, paying over $2,000 in cash for a one way ticket and carrying no luggage because he's brown and we're afriad to offend anyone. Because...in this country...regardless of color of skin or ethnicity....a one way ticket paid for in cash is a immediate red flag. So, I'll give you a break...it's your argument here that's broken..and hand it back to you in pieces. Gladly.

Yes, the system is so infected by liberalism that the cause of this attack is literally a fear of stopping suspected terrorists because they are brown and we dont want to offend them. Show me a study that says that their is an implicit fear of offending brown people literally affecting the nature of security protocol. I'm sorry, you're a racist trying to argue that people are making consolations to blacks. Nice one. You would try to take away something they never had in the first place and effectively oppress them.

A ticket paid in cash by anyone is not a red flag to you UNLESS THEY ARE BLACK. The only folks who are afraid to stop a black person for a security matter would be folks like you. Stop being afraid of black people.

I'm not afraid of offending blacks, your culture subconsciously needs roundabout arguments to take their rights and terrorism is your ticket.

Charles Martel · Jan 5, 2010

SE102 said:
A ticket paid in cash by anyone is not a red flag to you UNLESS THEY ARE BLACK.

It's a red flag regardless of ethnicity or skin color is this true. A one way ticket, paid for in cash..gets you scrutinized more heavily no matter what here in America, am I right...or not?

The only folks who are afraid to stop a black person for a security matter would be folks like you.

I think I would have stopped this man and upon finding his passport says he comes recently from Yemen on a temp visa....I'd ask him to step behind a curtain and do a body cavity search, again, regardless of skin color.

Stop being afraid of black people.

:roll:

I'm not afraid of offending blacks,

Who cares, were the airlines here afraid..is the legit question, no one cares what your fears are.

your culture subconsciously needs roundabout arguments to take their rights and terrorism is your ticket.

Ensuring the right for Americans to fly safely is responsible and appropriate.

Remember. You believe hauling 23 year old men out of line with either no passport or one stamped with recent travel to Yemen, with his one way ticket, paid for in cash..at age 23...and then gets on his international flight absent luggage is taking his rights. I think it's looking out for everyone else's.

Khayembii Communique · Jan 5, 2010

Charles Martel said:
we're at war with 'donors' mentioned here as well.

And who do you think those donors are?

I'll give you a hint: The US is allied with many of them.

Charles Martel · Jan 5, 2010

Khayembii Communique said:
And who do you think those donors are?

I'll give you a hint: The US is allied with many of them.

Private citizens in Saudi Arabia such as Osama Bin Laden himself who was a terrorist financier and engineer. Saddam Hussein's Iraq that was clearly supporting international terror. The Mullahs in Iran who today funnel cash to Hezbollah. Bashar in Syria who supports Hamas...amongst others. Why?

And the US isn't allied with any of them.

Khayembii Communique · Jan 5, 2010

Charles Martel said:
Private citizens in Saudi Arabia such as Osama Bin Laden himself who was a terrorist financier and engineer.

...who the US is allied with. :roll:

Charles Martel · Jan 5, 2010

Khayembii Communique said:
...who the US is allied with. :roll:

Soviets were once allied with us, Iraq once our ally against Iran. Germany once our enemy, Japan as well.

Osama declared and has been engaged in war with us for more than a decade, you're...denying this.

Arch Enemy · Jan 5, 2010

Charles Martel said:
Soviets were once allied with us, Iraq once our ally against Iran. Germany once our enemy, Japan as well.

Osama declared and has been engaged in war with us for more than a decade, you're...denying this.

No,

He is saying that the United States is allied with a country that resides over financiers Usama and his al-Qa'ida organization .

Khayembii Communique · Jan 5, 2010

Osama declared and has been engaged in war with us for more than a decade, you're...denying this.

When the hell did I deny this?

You're apparently supporting your country's own self-defeating policies. Do you think allying with a country that harbors financiers of terrorist organizations whom it is trying to wipe out is smart in any way at all?

Charles Martel · Jan 5, 2010

Khayembii Communique said:
Do you think allying with a country that harbors financiers of terrorist organizations whom it is trying to wipe out is smart in any way at all?

I think it smart in several ways, let me use this link to demonstate:

New GAO Report Commends Saudi Arabia’s Efforts to Fight Terrorism and Terror Financing

New GAO Report Commends Saudi Arabia’s Efforts to Fight Terrorism and Terror Financing
September 30, 2009

* “U.S. and Saudi officials also report progress on efforts to prevent financial support to extremists, citing, for example, the Saudi government’s regulations on sending charitable contributions overseas, and the arrest and prosecution of individuals providing support to terrorism.”

* “Al Qaeda’s attacks against Saudi and U.S. citizens in Saudi Arabia in 2003 and 2004 marked a turning point in the Saudi government’s efforts to combat terrorism and terrorism financing….” and that “…Between 2003 and 2005, the Saudi government reported that it took a number of actions to combat terrorism and terrorism financing within the Kingdom, some with U.S. assistance, such as increasing the size, training, and professionalism of Saudi security forces.

More importantly:

“Between 2003 and 2008, U.S. and Saudi officials report the Saudi government arrested or killed thousands of terrorism suspects, including those suspected of planning attacks on Saudi oil fields and other vital installations. Further, the Saudi government has published three “most wanted” lists, and U.S. and Saudi sources report Saudi Arabia has captured or killed a number of suspects on these lists. In 2008, the Saudi government announced terrorism trials for approximately 1,000 individuals indicted on various terrorism-related charges. In July 2009, the Saudi government announced that 330 suspects had court trials, of whom seven were acquitted and the rest received jail terms ranging from a few months to 30 years.”

Finally:

“According to State reporting and Saudi officials, the Saudi government continues to monitor the preaching and writings of religious leaders, and to reeducate those who advocate extremist messages. Saudi officials from the Ministry of Islamic Affairs told us their monitoring has covered approximately 20,000 of Saudi Arabia’s estimated 70,000 mosques, including all of the large mosques that hold Friday prayers.”

MKULTRABOY · Jan 5, 2010

It's a red flag regardless of ethnicity or skin color is this true. A one way ticket, paid for in cash..gets you scrutinized more heavily no matter what here in America, am I right...or not?

Why would it? Cash is legal is it not. What are you trying to say?

I think I would have stopped this man and upon finding his passport says he comes recently from Yemen on a temp visa....I'd ask him to step behind a curtain and do a body cavity search, again, regardless of skin color.

The contention is that you would profile him... for being from yemen, legally. You would not be authorized to do that, if you could do that we would have all sorts of security folks like 'you' cavity searching legal passengers. It would not be tolerated. If you want to fix it you can be the one to check the backgrounds of the people entering the country thats where you would have to start. Not by cavity searching every negro that walks through. But you could dig through negro butts instead of being smart if you want.

:roll:

Yeah I know.

Who cares, were the airlines here afraid..is the legit question, no one cares what your fears are.

I didn't state a fear of mine, way to dodge your desire to institutionalize fear of the brownies. The 'airline' is not an 'entity' that has 'fear'... the 'airline' cannot be 'afraid'. Your contention is that there was a fear on the part of some 'entity' which has been infected by a political ideology you carry in your psyche and refer to as 'liberalism'.

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The core of the issue in this discussion is that someone was afraid to stop a terrorist because they were liberal. To caricature-ize it there would have to be some poor 'liberal' security guard who had a magical sixth sense knowing that this guy had slipped through the visa process and not been caught, saw no luggage and a one way ticket and assumed he was a bomber. But then he was black so he didn't say anything. Seriously? Did I actually have to spell out how absurd that is for you?
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OMG a bLaCk TerroRist we Cant StOp hIm!?:doh

You, sir, flabbergast me.

B L Zeebub · Jan 5, 2010

Why don't you all read about the IRA, after all its financial supporters made strange bedfellows, Gaddafi and Noraid to mention two

Khayembii Communique · Jan 5, 2010

Charles Marcel said:
I think it smart in several ways, let me use this link to demonstate:

Ah, you are one of those people. Carry on.

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