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Bernard Madoff beat up in USA Prison

He stole that money from a buncha people whose greed kept them from seeing that his promised rates of return were probably too good to be true.

So, you're saying it's ok to steal from, "greedy", people? What were saying about your, "society of law", just a few minutes ago?



No. If you don't want to go to prison, you shouldn't break the law. Breaking the law and ending up in prison isn't a justification for being physically abused while you're there.

Prison isn't supposed to be a cake walk. That's why it's called punishment. When you're in prison, you already know before you et there that you're going to be housed with a bunch of animals. Because you'r being housed with a bunch of animals, you have to expect them to exhibit this kind of behavior. Don't want to deal with that? Don't break the law. It ain't rocket science.
 
Why not?...

They invested in a hedge fund, not only that but many of them invested their life savings in a hedge fund, one of the riskiest investment vehicles in existence.

#1 rule of investing, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

#2 rule of investing, don't invest what you can't afford to loose.
 
They invested in a hedge fund, not only that but many of them invested their life savings in a hedge fund, one of the riskiest investment vehicles in existence.

#1 rule of investing, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

#2 rule of investing, don't invest what you can't afford to loose.


While my heart doesn't exactly bleed for them, I don't think they're bad people for entering in to a proposition that they had no idea was a scam.

It doesn't justify being ripped off, just because they made a risky investment.
 
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While my heart doesn't exactly bleed for them, I don't think they're bad people for entering in to a proposition that they had no idea was a scam.

It doesn't justify being ripped off, just because they made a risky investment.

Nothing justifies them being ripped off but their own reckless behavior has consequences.

Investing, potentially, millions of dollars with little research behind what your investing in is gigantically stupid.
A $20 book or a free visit to an investing website would have saved them their heart ache.
 
Nothing justifies them being ripped off but their own reckless behavior has consequences.

Investing, potentially, millions of dollars with little research behind what your investing in is gigantically stupid.
A $20 book or a free visit to an investing website would have saved them their heart ache.

Okay, his investors were stupid. So what? Does that change the fact that Bernie Madoff is a lying, cheating crook who lived an absurdly lavish lifestyle by bilking thousands of people out of their money?

Bernie Madoff is the worst kind of person, in my opinion. A meglomaniacal greedy bastard who doesn't give a damn about anybody but himself. If he gets beat in prison, so be it. I could give a **** less about that asshole.
 
Okay, his investors were stupid. So what? Does that change the fact that Bernie Madoff is a lying, cheating crook who lived an absurdly lavish lifestyle by bilking thousands of people out of their money?

Bernie Madoff is the worst kind of person, in my opinion. A meglomaniacal greedy bastard who doesn't give a damn about anybody but himself. If he gets beat in prison, so be it. I could give a **** less about that asshole.

He's still a jack ass but no more than your average criminal.

I just can't bring myself to cry for those that were screwed by him, they were mostly screwed by themselves, they had the majority of the power in that scenario and they chose to believe fanciful crap instead of making wiser choices.
 
Nothing justifies them being ripped off but their own reckless behavior has consequences.

Investing, potentially, millions of dollars with little research behind what your investing in is gigantically stupid.
A $20 book or a free visit to an investing website would have saved them their heart ache.

That's very true. People who invested their life savings in a risky investment scheme, without doing research, were foolish, and probably greedy. There are, after all, working stiffs who have slaved a lifetime at menial jobs, and never had a life savings to foolishly blow.
 
Nothing justifies them being ripped off but their own reckless behavior has consequences.

Investing, potentially, millions of dollars with little research behind what your investing in is gigantically stupid.
A $20 book or a free visit to an investing website would have saved them their heart ache.

That's right and that's why Bernie is in the joint and that's why I hav zero sympathy for him.
 
That's very true. People who invested their life savings in a risky investment scheme, without doing research, were foolish, and probably greedy. There are, after all, working stiffs who have slaved a lifetime at menial jobs, and never had a life savings to foolishly blow.

I have other opinions about those who can supposedly never save but yes they lost mostly to their own stupidity.

A fool and his money are easily separated and this proves it.
 
That's very true. People who invested their life savings in a risky investment scheme, without doing research, were foolish, and probably greedy. There are, after all, working stiffs who have slaved a lifetime at menial jobs, and never had a life savings to foolishly blow.


And, that's because of the decisions they made.
 
So, you're saying it's ok to steal from, "greedy", people? What were saying about your, "society of law", just a few minutes ago?

I never once said it was okay. I was clarifying your generalization.

Prison isn't supposed to be a cake walk. That's why it's called punishment. When you're in prison, you already know before you et there that you're going to be housed with a bunch of animals. Because you'r being housed with a bunch of animals, you have to expect them to exhibit this kind of behavior. Don't want to deal with that? Don't break the law. It ain't rocket science.

Of course prison isn't supposed to be a cake walk.

That aside, the idea that going to prison means being housed with a bunch of animals is a broad generalization which is demonstrably untrue in a variety of facilities across the country.

That said, if we lock up someone with "a bunch of animals" as a punishment instead of just, you know, locking them up, then we're little better than animals ourselves.
 
He's still a jack ass but no more than your average criminal.

I just can't bring myself to cry for those that were screwed by him, they were mostly screwed by themselves, they had the majority of the power in that scenario and they chose to believe fanciful crap instead of making wiser choices.

I don't cry for them. They took a risk and they lost; happens all the time.

I'm just saying that if Bernie Madoff should suffer every day for the rest of his then I'm perfectly okay with that. I despise people like him. They are what's wrong with the world. He's the type of person who wouldn't lift a finger unless it benefited himself personally; a selfish, rotten asshole who deserves everything he has coming to him.
 
I don't cry for them. They took a risk and they lost; happens all the time.

I'm just saying that if Bernie Madoff should suffer every day for the rest of his then I'm perfectly okay with that. I despise people like him. They are what's wrong with the world. He's the type of person who wouldn't lift a finger unless it benefited himself personally; a selfish, rotten asshole who deserves everything he has coming to him.

Just pointing it out, but laissez-faire depends on people like him...
 
I never once said it was okay. I was clarifying your generalization.

Your comment, along with the comments of others, is obviously intended to make the victims in this case look like the bad guys. I dont know if it's because you hate people with money, or what.





That aside, the idea that going to prison means being housed with a bunch of animals is a broad generalization which is demonstrably untrue in a variety of facilities across the country.

I doubt seriously that there are very many prison populations that aren't made up of a majority of animals.

That said, if we lock up someone with "a bunch of animals" as a punishment instead of just, you know, locking them up, then we're little better than animals ourselves.

"Locking them up with a bunch of animals", is just the nature of the beast. It's inevitable for prison populations to be made up of mostly animals.

Don't like it? Don't break the law.
 
I don't cry for them. They took a risk and they lost; happens all the time.

I'm just saying that if Bernie Madoff should suffer every day for the rest of his then I'm perfectly okay with that. I despise people like him. They are what's wrong with the world. He's the type of person who wouldn't lift a finger unless it benefited himself personally; a selfish, rotten asshole who deserves everything he has coming to him.

I just don't see it that way, as TED has pointed out you go to prison to be removed from society and not to be beaten by other inmates.

If that can happen to the guilty in prison, it can happen to the innocent in prison.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm a firm believer in vigilantly justice when the government fails to prosecute crimes but once they have, you should not be subject to beatings because a lot of people don't like you.
 
Who cares if he's an evil piece of ****?

He's still a human being and deserves to be treated like one.


If he's concerned about being treated like a human, he shouldn't have stolen people's life savings.
 
I just don't see it that way, as TED has pointed out you go to prison to be removed from society and not to be beaten by other inmates.

But, it will happen. It's prison. It's an unhappy dangerous place as well it should be.
 
Just pointing it out, but laissez-faire depends on people like him...

Laissez-faire depends on people who wantonly disregard the law? What a strange idea you have there...
 
But, it will happen. It's prison. It's an unhappy dangerous place as well it should be.

Of course it will because, we in this country believe it's ok to treat animals with non rehabilitative punishment.

It doesn't do anything to stop crime, either rehabilitate them or kill them but don't torture them if you plan to release them.
 
Of course it will because, we in this country believe it's ok to treat animals with non rehabilitative punishment.
The tougher we make it prison, the less people will won't to go and they will think twice before breaking the law.

It doesn't do anything to stop crime, either rehabilitate them or kill them but don't torture them if you plan to release them.

personally, I think prison isn't hard enough. I think we need to create an even more dangerous and scary environment that there already is.

Don't like it? Don't break the law. It's that simple.
 
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