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Person of the year 2009- Ben Bernanke

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What does this chart mean to you?


I think it means that when the market saw Obama elected it sold off big time.


j-mac
 
_tyx


What does this chart mean to you?

It means that there was a helluva lot of uncertainty in the market because a crazy Leftist Democrat had been elected president.
 
I think it means that when the market saw Obama elected it sold off big time.


j-mac

Sorry, those are reflective of 30 year treasury yields. From a technical standpoint, in order for yields to reach such levels, the bidding price of the respective security has to be rising. Meaning the market value on those bonds were off the charts, and the world was pouring its money into US debt.
 
_tyx


What does this chart mean to you?

It means absolutely nothing, if your government and their friends screw things up badly enough, we just print more magic money, right?:confused:
 
It means that there was a helluva lot of uncertainty in the market because a crazy Leftist Democrat had been elected president.

The democrats have nothing to do with it. You are seeing the beginning of a run on world financial systems. Luckily such a scenario was prevented.
 
It means absolutely nothing, if your government and their friends screw things up badly enough, we just print more magic money, right?:confused:

Come on now, try a bit harder. Otherwise don't even bother to reply. :shrug:
 
Come on now, try a bit harder. Otherwise don't even bother to reply. :shrug:

LOL, I would ask you to do the same, start by answering this simple question, what will be the consequences of this action, if any?
 
LOL, I would ask you to do the same, start by answering this simple question, what will be the consequences of this action, if any?

By not acting... A Dow @ 4000 and going lower. IMHO of course.

You might see some aspects of inflation years down the road, although i do not believe you are in the position to accuratly critique the Feds exit strategy.
 
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The democrats have nothing to do with it. You are seeing the beginning of a run on world financial systems. Luckily such a scenario was prevented.

The Democrats created the housing bubble. They had everything to do with it. They also threatened the private sector with punitive taxes, an over-reaching health care bill, card check and cap-n-tax. Yes, the Democrats have everything to do with it.
 
By not acting... A Dow @ 4000 and going lower. IMHO of course.

No.....what is are the consequences of printing money out of thin air? Is the Dow really at 10,000 today, or is it still at 4000?
 
The Democrats created the housing bubble. They had everything to do with it. They also threatened the private sector with punitive taxes, an over-reaching health care bill, card check and cap-n-tax. Yes, the Democrats have everything to do with it.

More partisan hackery. Here is why people seriously question your intelligence. Under your logic.... The democrats "threatened the private sector with punitive taxes, an over-reaching health care bill, card check and cap-n-tax." And yet, as the chart indicates... the worlds economies where pouring money into financing it?:rofl At record low yields.

Now you want to talk about a serious case of either ignorance or denial.... Wow:wow:
 
It's not? The stock market has been growing since March. The number of jobs lost has decreased every month since May, and will probably actually start growing this month (or maybe even last month, once the adjusted numbers come in).

I think this is a very bad time to be a bear on the US economy. We endured a major crisis last fall, and all things considered I think we recovered reasonably well.

When Bush was president and the stock market was at record levels,Liberals insisted that the stockmarket was a false indicator ;)
 
More partisan hackery. Here is why people seriously question your intelligence. Under your logic.... The democrats "threatened the private sector with punitive taxes, an over-reaching health care bill, card check and cap-n-tax." And yet, as the chart indicates... the worlds economies where pouring money into financing it?:rofl At record low yields.

Now you want to talk about a serious case of either ignorance or denial.... Wow:wow:

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j-mac
 
No.....what is are the consequences of printing money out of thin air? Is the Dow really at 10,000 today, or is it still at 4000?

Slow down and read.

Me said:
You might see some aspects of inflation years down the road, although i do not believe you are in the position to accuratly critique the Feds exit strategy.
 
Not a ****ing word

Care to address my post? I can post a Ron Paul youtube if i am losing an argument..... But that doesn't mean i would.:rofl
 
More partisan hackery. Here is why people seriously question your intelligence. Under your logic.... The democrats "threatened the private sector with punitive taxes, an over-reaching health care bill, card check and cap-n-tax." And yet, as the chart indicates... the worlds economies where pouring money into financing it?:rofl At record low yields.

Now you want to talk about a serious case of either ignorance or denial.... Wow:wow:

Which mortgage companies own half the bad mortgages in the country and who was overseeing them? Give you a hint: they weren't Republicans.

Who has been undermining consumer confidence for the past several years and is still doing it? Again, they're not Republicans.
 
Slow down and read.

So you edit your post, then have the nerve not only to tell me to slow down, but suggest I have no right to question the fed, amazing!

Do you work for the fed, you would make a wonderful PR guy/gal.....well, if only to the ignorant masses.

So again, back up your absurd suggestion that we should be 'kissing the ground this man walks on". I am still confused, as I am sure many others are, as to why we should be applauding this man?
 
Which mortgage companies own half the bad mortgages in the country and who was overseeing them? Give you a hint: they weren't Republicans.

Who has been undermining consumer confidence for the past several years and is still doing it? Again, they're not Republicans.

Can you address my post? Why would the world economies dump money into treasury debt if they truly felt frightened by future US spending? Why do they continue to do so (although this week china has sat out possibly due to early yields being seasonally low) buy our debt at cheap prices?
 
Can you address my post? Why would the world economies dump money into treasury debt if they truly felt frightened by future US spending? Why do they continue to do so (although this week china has sat out possibly due to early yields being seasonally low) buy our debt at cheap prices?

I did address your post. You claimed I engaged in partisan hackery, along with a couple personal attacks and I showed you how I wasn't engaging in partisan hackery, by simply stating the facts.

BTW, de-regulation isn't what caused the reession.
 
So you edit your post, then have the nerve not only to tell me to slow down, but suggest I have no right to question the fed, amazing!

Do you work for the fed, you would make a wonderful PR guy/gal.....well, if only to the ignorant masses.

So again, back up your absurd suggestion that we should be 'kissing the ground this man walks on". I am still confused, as I am sure many others are, as to why we should be applauding this man?

I told you... Dow 4000 and going lower. If you do not agree, what is the technical analysis you are using as evidence of the markets trajectory?
 
I did address your post. You claimed I engaged in partisan hackery, along with a couple personal attacks and I showed you how I wasn't engaging in partisan hackery, by simply stating the facts.

BTW, de-regulation isn't what caused the reession.

Why did the world pour its money, and continue to do so... into our debt if it truly frightened private markets that we were going to be spending more? Again you failed to answer the question, care for another try?

BTW, what were the personal attacks? You and your whole clan argue about things in which you know absolutely nothing about.:2wave:
 
And last year many of capitialist lost their asses.

Which is a perfect reason to get back into the market. When corporations enter bad periods, they tend all to state expenses and losses in excess of what they actually are. In accounting it's called the "Big Bath." So when the economy starts to pick up again, they show artificially high gains which for most people, don't realize are artificially high. Thus, for the person in the know, it an excellent opportunity.
 
I don't know if I can quite agree with the position that Uncle Ben saved the world.

However, unlike many of the untrained here, he did do his part in saving it. When liquidity and money velocity drop to all time lows, there really is only one viable reaction: expand M0 to epic proportions. If you read the reports from investment houses and money managers, it's virtually unanimous that Uncle Ben did the right thing there. If money only gets turned two times rather than the average five, you expand M0 so that the same net amount of dollars are flowing through the economy along with extremely low rates that promote borrowing.

The question is when do you cut the spigot off to stop inflation. That will be the real problem in the next couple years.

I do think that the global stimulus that the world in unison did was in many ways just as important. According to Ken Fisher, the global stimulus was the largest in world history even when accounting for inflation. That alone likely boosted confidence and global stock markets show it.
 
I told you... Dow 4000 and going lower. If you do not agree, what is the technical analysis you are using as evidence of the markets trajectory?

You continue to ignore a weak dollar, of course the dow is rising, people are being raped in this country. So again, is the dow really at 10,000, or is this just an illusion?
 
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