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DC City Council votes to legalize gay marriage

EpicDude86 said:
What you DO with your left hand makes baby Jesus weep.
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The Jesus I know doesn't sit around crying.

The Jesus I know let's me suffer the consequences of my actions unless I cross a line. At that point he pulls out his bullwhip....
 
Charles Martel said:
And what act you've ever performed or received equals the conception of your Son? What is the most important thing in your life, what will define you and carry your name throughout your life and his?



Take a look at your Son, Chief....that's reality....and not one iota of homosexuality went into creating the good lad. You performed the ultimate heterosexual act, your Son's mother did the same. Call yourselves what you'd like, you're not gay. Sorry. You may feel the desire to sleep with men, it will never be the equal of conceiving a child. Ever. I'm terribly sorry, but you're not even close to correct here. In fact, you're dead wrong.

Furthermore, the absence of homosexuality.....doesn't affect this planet whatsoever. Two men or two women never having whatever version of sex they'd like to call sex, affects nothing. This planet would spin and humankind would prosper....the porn industry may take a hit as many men enjoy seeing two women having sex...other than that....all is well.

In the absence of heterosexuality...well....we're not even here to discuss it now are we.

Homosexual sex isn;t even close to being the equal of human sexuality, it's your specific version. It doesn't rate, sorry
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Are you saying that by our natural engineering, we're all heterosexual regardless of what we do with our equipment?
 
Jerry said:
Did you sign off your rights to that couple? Did the non-biological parent adopt him?
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Yes but only as a matter of expediency. With the state of things for homosexuals today, for the good of the boy, I figured it would be best if they had their relationship to him sealed air tight, legally, in the event something happened to the birth mother. If something happens to both of them, he will come to live with me and Joshua. I financially contribute to his college and we have something of a relationship but he thinks of me as a distant uncle for now. When he's old enough to understand, then I am sure we will all explain to him how loved and special he is to the three of us.

We are all in agreement that he is old enough the day he starts asking the questions.
 
Charles Martel said:
And what act you've ever performed or received equals the conception of your Son? What is the most important thing in your life, what will define you and carry your name throughout your life and his?



Take a look at your Son, Chief....that's reality....and not one iota of homosexuality went into creating the good lad. You performed the ultimate heterosexual act, your Son's mother did the same. Call yourselves what you'd like, you're not gay. Sorry. You may feel the desire to sleep with men, it will never be the equal of conceiving a child. Ever. I'm terribly sorry, but you're not even close to correct here. In fact, you're dead wrong.

Furthermore, the absence of homosexuality.....doesn't affect this planet whatsoever. Two men or two women never having whatever version of sex they'd like to call sex, affects nothing. This planet would spin and humankind would prosper....the porn industry may take a hit as many men enjoy seeing two women having sex...other than that....all is well.

In the absence of heterosexuality...well....we're not even here to discuss it now are we.

Homosexual sex isn;t even close to being the equal of human sexuality, it's your specific version. It doesn't rate, sorry
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For all you know Jallman and his hubby had some cosplay with a turkey baster, put it in a lunch cooler and dropped it off with some "congratulations" balloons at the woman's office ;)
 
Charles Martel said:
And what act you've ever performed or received equals the conception of your Son? What is the most important thing in your life, what will define you and carry your name throughout your life and his?
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I imagine the sum of my deeds will define my life.

Take a look at your Son, Chief....that's reality....
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And so is my partner when I look at him. You are being extremely myopic and one dimensional about this.

and not one iota of homosexuality went into creating the good lad.
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I think the hot guy on page 27 of the September issue of Jocks that year that I looked at while jerking off into the specimen cup was probably homosexual.

You performed the ultimate heterosexual act, your Son's mother did the same.
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I think the doctor with the turkey baster type thing actually performed the act...

Call yourselves what you'd like, you're not gay. Sorry. You may feel the desire to sleep with men, it will never be the equal of conceiving a child. Ever. I'm terribly sorry, but you're not even close to correct here. In fact, you're dead wrong.
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I'm not sure what else you would call it then...

Furthermore, the absence of homosexuality.....doesn't affect this planet whatsoever. Two men or two women never having whatever version of sex they'd like to call sex, affects nothing. This planet would spin and humankind would prosper....the porn industry may take a hit as many men enjoy seeing two women having sex...other than that....all is well.
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The same could be said for the absence of faith, you, me, any human being, emotion, friendship, anything that is not a necessity of biological function. But that's not the issue here.

In the absence of heterosexuality...well....we're not even here to discuss it now are we.
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No, we aren't and it's good we're on the same page.

Homosexual sex isn;t even close to being the equal of human sexuality, it's your specific version. It doesn't rate, sorry
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Well if we were in a pissing contest about who's sex is better, then you may have made a point. But that's not what we're discussing here either.
 
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Charles Martel said:
Homosexual sex isn;t even close to being the equal of human sexuality, it's your specific version. It doesn't rate, sorry
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I'm just curious but how do you feel about oral sex?
 
winston53660 said:
I'm just curious but how do you feel about oral sex?
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You're trying to confuse the issue by white-washing his argument with every other sexual act and irrelevant comparisons.

It's easy enough to defeat his argument by addressing his points. There's no need for additional games.
 
Jerry said:
You're trying to confuse the issue by white-washing his argument with every other sexual act and irrelevant comparisons.

It's easy enough to defeat his argument by addressing his points. There's no need for additional games.
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Jerry I stated I was just curious. But any how's if a man or a woman is munching carpet what is the diff?
 
winston53660 said:
Jerry I stated I was just curious. But any how's if a man or a woman is munching carpet what is the diff?
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It's a different relationship. That relationship is no more a simple variation than my left-handedness is a simple variation.
 
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winston53660 said:
Every relationship is different no matter what. And that IMO is the only constant.
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Every car is different no matter what, that doesn't mean a Corvette is a Catalytic.

See you're still trying to confuse the issue.

Marriage has always been about and for monogamous couples raising children. If you can isolate all the venerable and show that the typical gay couple reflects the typical hetero monogamous couple raising children, where the single and only difference is sexual orientation, then you have an argument.

Until then, you're comparing apples to oranges.
 
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texmaster said:
Really. Prove it.

List the studies you are claiming support this theory of yours.

If your goal is to equate the sexual desire of homosexuals with the millions of years of heterosexual procreation and attraction, not to mention the compatibility of sexual organs for procreation between males and females, then you will need more than your pompous attitude and holier than thou rhetoric to convince others.
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For some one who has never once proved one of his points and never sources his comments, you sure ask for proof alot. Are you denying that there is evidence that genetics may play a role in orientation? That nothing found so far disproves the theory that genetics affects orientation, and it does in fact account for the way homosexuals usually follow the maternal line? It's not proven, as no "gay gene"(which would in fact be many gay genes) has been found, but it is likely. Do you know that physical differences have been found between gays and strait people? Did you know this suggests that it is not a choice, but biology?


Of course. How could I possibly think nature would make the opposite sexes attracted to each other. LOL

So, for all the species of the world that populate with one male one female reproduction, please explain how we are not genetically inclined to be attracted to the opposite sex. :rofl

This is the dumbest argument you have made yet. You want to cast aside millions of years of evolution and procreation based on nothing but your own self satisfying theory.
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Did you know that is not his argument? Did you know you are putting words in his mouth. He pointed out a flaw in your argument, and correctly. There are any number of traits that are passed down genetically that are not survival orientated.
 
Jerry said:
Every car is different no matter what, that doesn't mean a Corvette is a Catalytic.

See you're still trying to confuse the issue.

Marriage has always been about and for monogamous couples raising children. If you can isolate all the venerable and show that the typical gay couple reflects the typical hetero monogamous couple raising children, where the single and only difference is sexual orientation, then you have an argument.

Until then, you're comparing apples to oranges.
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I guess in fantasy world marriage has always been about monogamous couples raising children. In reality and historically through out many different cultures it has encompassed many different issues from polygamy to women and children being treated as property to gay martriage. The only constant is that each relationship is different.
 
winston53660 said:
I guess in fantasy world marriage has always been about monogamous couples raising children.

In reality....
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That's a dismissal tactic.

winston53660 said:
In reality and historically through out many different cultures it has encompassed many different issues from polygamy to women and children being treated as property to gay martriage. The only constant is that each relationship is different.
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Not even in mid evil Japan or ancient Greece where same-sex relationships were an accepted norm were same-sex relationships presented as being the same as opposite-sex relationships.

I would never suggest that my left-handedness is the same as right-handedness, being nothing more than a variation. Also, just because I was born left-handed doesn't mean I get to drive on the other side of the road.
 
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EpicDude86 said:
Kinky. ;) meeeooww. Though we should probably start a basement thread for this kind of conversation...
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Well I haven't had an infraction in while and I'm feeling kinky these days.
 
winston53660 said:
Well I haven't had an infraction in while and I'm feeling kinky these days.
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You knew it was coming.
 
Redress said:
For some one who has never once proved one of his points and never sources his comments,
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Which is a bald faced lie but go ahead. Go ahead and deny it and I'll quote your article to you...again.

you sure ask for proof alot. Are you denying that there is evidence that genetics may play a role in orientation?
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May possibly, theoricial? Of course not.

And Tom Cruise may not be gay.

The idiocy of that statement alone you made shows how weak your argument is.

That nothing found so far disproves the theory that genetics affects orientation,
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Exacept for all the failed studies that tried to prove it :rofl

and it does in fact account for the way homosexuals usually follow the maternal line? It's not proven, as no "gay gene"(which would in fact be many gay genes) has been found, but it is likely. Do you know that physical differences have been found between gays and strait people? Did you know this suggests that it is not a choice, but biology?
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You are hopless you truly are. You have no proof and your only argument is there "may" be a link.

I got news for you. "maybe, possibly" isn't an argument.

Is an unsupported theory which is no argument for changing existing laws or establishing new ones based on "maybe, possibly"

Did you know that is not his argument? Did you know you are putting words in his mouth. He pointed out a flaw in your argument, and correctly. There are any number of traits that are passed down genetically that are not survival orientated.
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Which is a gross distortion of my argument since we are talking sexual orientation not survival.
 
hazlnut said:
Strawman. That's not what I said.
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Lie. yes it was.

It's not inherited. Hard-wired personality traits are a function of brain development, prenatal issues, genetics. Sexual orientation is not a choice. Left-handed is not a choice. Low-impulse control, left-brained personalities, right-brained personalities, creativity, gifted, etc. are not a choice.
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Again, prove it. Do you honestly think your own personal opinion is enough to prove your claim?

Foot fetish. Are your familiar with the term? A person who reaches orgasm but having his foot fondled. Seem like 'deviant' behavior? Not if you understand that the genitalia nerves are right next to the foot nerves in the brain, and, to the extent those nerve bunldes may overlap in a person's brain...
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And what pray tell does that have to do with gay marriage in any way shape or form?

Are you starting to understand? You can't control the way your brain is wired. A homosexual can not be rewired for opposite sex attraction. That's the way God made them. And God doesn't make mistakes. So who are we to make their lives miserable just because we don't understand them. Just because they're different.
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For the third time, before you can make this claim it is "hardwired" you must be able to PROVE IT.

You are no different than an atheist arguing with a religious person.

We don't change laws based on FAITH we change them based on FACTS.

You have none to support your claims which is the entire point.
 
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