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Italian premier Berlusconi bloodied by protester

And it has begun.

BBC News - Attack on Berlusconi 'premeditated'

Since the incident, pages on social networking sites praising the attacker have been joined by thousands of people.

Mr Maroni accused them of "inciting hostility" towards Mr Berlusconi and said the government was considering taking legal action against them.

In October, Italian officials opened an inquiry into a Facebook group called "Let's kill Berlusconi", which had more than 16,000 members.
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The interior minister stood up in parliament and blamed the internet.. I see a clampdown on free speech in Italy coming the next few months. Funny how Berlosuconi has been threatening for months to do something like this because people on the internet dare post pictures of him and his buddies having sex with hookers.
 
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Gibberish said:
I'm not sure what types of examples you are looking for. Show me examples of the left doing these things you are talking about so I can get a better idea.
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Speaking of general activity during protests and such, Left wing groups tend to be much more violent.

Anti-G20 protesters rampaged through the city centre of Pittsburgh tonight, smashing up shops and throwing rocks at police, as officers used tear gas and baton-charges in an attempt to bring them under control.

In riots which continued through evening rush hour, about 300 protesters were reported to have remained from an initial crowd of 2,000 in Bloomfield, Pittsburgh’s Little Italy.

Frustrated in their attempts to reach the venue where world leaders are meeting the crowd, many of whom wore face-masks and armed themselves with rocks, broke windows at fast-food restaurants, a BMW dealership and a bank in the area, about a mile from the fenced-off convention centre.

Police embroiled in violent battles with G20 protesters - Times Online
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Now juxt oppose that with the 'tea party' in DC over the summer. And you tell me which one was more violent?


j-mac
 
This all started with the shoe thrower.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I dont support violence. I said Berlusconi deserved what happened. And violence is repulsive. :)
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It's like me saying that the Jews deserved what they got in the holocaust, and that killing Jews is repulsive.

To spell it out, it's dumb.
 
The two ideas can be mutually exclusive.

I don't see what the point of attacking a neo-con was. He'll just use it as a pretext to remove more freedoms.
 
Orius said:
The two ideas can be mutually exclusive.
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And then it only means that you admit being a repulsive person.

It's like stealing from a person and admitting that what you're doing is repulsive.
So is supporting violence while admitting that supporting violence is repulsive.
 
Apocalypse said:
It's like me saying that the Jews deserved what they got in the holocaust, and that killing Jews is repulsive.

To spell it out, it's dumb.
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Nah. Thats a wrong comparison. Saying Berlusconi got what he did, while violcence is wrong is more like saying Mussolini got what he deserved, while killing is wrong.
 
Orius said:
The two ideas can be mutually exclusive.

I don't see what the point of attacking a neo-con was. He'll just use it as a pretext to remove more freedoms.
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True also.

The Italian parliament and senate has tried all in their power to remove the dictator Berlusconi, they just cannot do it. He owns the media and he manipulates the people and election results.
 
American said:
Not that I wish this on Obama, but it would be interesting to see the reaction on the left if it occurred.
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Stupid statements like that aren't any less stupid just because you preface them with the obligatory "Not that I wish this on Obama," when that's obviously EXACTLY what you intended to convey with this post.
 
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He had a lifetime of ducking responsibility to fall back on.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Nah. Thats a wrong comparison. Saying Berlusconi got what he did, while violcence is wrong is more like saying Mussolini got what he deserved, while killing is wrong.
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Only if Silvia deserves a beating as much as Mussolini deserves a killing.





Clue: He doesn't.
 
Apocalypse said:
Only if Silvia deserves a beating as much as Mussolini deserves a killing.





Clue: He doesn't.
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Surely that is wrong. Both deserved what they got. Perhaps you dont understand what a man Berlusconi is then? He is a "democratic" dictator. He exploited the system and now rules it.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
Surely that is wrong. Both deserved what they got. Perhaps you dont understand what a man Berlusconi is then? He is a "democratic" dictator. He exploited the system and now rules it.
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Are you suggesting that Silvia is by any chance equal to Mussolini?
Seriously?
 
Apocalypse said:
Seen it yesterday.
Assaulting a prime minister should earn one a life in prison in my opinion.
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Since when does assault land anyone in jail for life?
 
Ikari said:
Since when does assault land anyone in jail for life?
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Please point out to where I used the legal term "assault" in my post.
As far as I'm concerned, my used legal term was "Assaulting a prime minister".
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
No. But the punishment of a statue in the face and execution are not equal either.
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So where's the comparison here?
Are you saying that Mussolini is to Silvia like execution is to a statue to the face?
What would be your own suiting punishment level, in your eyes, if you were found deserving by a parallel dimension Maximus Zeebra?
 
Apocalypse said:
Please point out to where I used the legal term "assault" in my post.
As far as I'm concerned, my used legal term was "Assaulting a prime minister".
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yes, and I asked "since when does assault get someone life in prison". You're saying that assaulting the prime minister should get life in prison, I asked when does assault get life sentences. That's it. Answer the question or run away.
 
Ikari said:
yes, and I asked "since when does assault get someone life in prison". You're saying that assaulting the prime minister should get life in prison, I asked when does assault get life sentences. That's it. Answer the question or run away.
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By 'when', do you wish me to point out to a point at the past when assaulting got someone a life in prison, or do you want me to explain how, morally, should an assault on a prime minister get one a life in prison?

Answer the question or piss off. :2razz:
 
I wanted to know when assault of an individual nets someone a life sentence.
 
Ikari said:
The run away option eh? K, so you can't point out where assault leads of an individual leads to life sentencing. Noted.
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I just asked you to which of the two 'when's do you want me to give my answer on, and you've chosen to present it as if I do not wish to give an answer.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Your options are still there, I still wish to give you an answer, so pick the meaning of 'when' that you want me to answer on, or run away.
 
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