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Obama Told Me To Stop Demeaning Him: Conyers

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President Obama told me to stop ?demeaning? him, says Rep. Conyers - TheHill.com

President Barack Obama recently called Rep. John Conyers Jr. to express his frustrations with the Judiciary Committee chairman’s criticism.

In an interview with The Hill, Conyers said his opinions of Obama’s policies on healthcare reform and the war in Afghanistan have not sat well with the president.

According to the lawmaker, the president picked up the phone several weeks ago to find out why Conyers was “demeaning” him.

Obama’s decision to challenge Conyers highlights a sensitivity to criticism the president has taken on the left. Conyers’s critical remarks, many of which have been reported on the liberal-leaning Huffington Post, appear to have irritated the president, known for his calm demeanor.

Conyers, the second-longest-serving member of the House, said, “[Obama] called me and told me that he heard that I was demeaning him and I had to explain to him that it wasn’t anything personal, it was an honest difference on the issues. And he said, ‘Well, let’s talk about it.’”

Sitting in the Judiciary Committee’s conference room two days after Obama delivered his speech on Afghanistan, the 23-term lawmaker said he wasn’t in the mood to “chat.”

Obama’s move to send in 30,000 troops to Afghanistan by the summer of 2010 has clearly disappointed Conyers.

He said he intends to press his case in writing soon.

I want something so serious that he has to respond in writing, like I am responding in writing to him,” he said.

“Calling in generals and admirals to discuss troop strength is like me taking my youngest to McDonald’s to ask if he likes french fries,” Conyers said.

Many on the left have argued that military leaders routinely respond to crises by calling for more troops.

“I’ve been saying I don’t agree with him on Afghanistan, I think he screwed up on healthcare reform, on Guantánamo and kicking Greg off,” Conyers said, referring to the departure of former White House counsel Greg Craig.

Craig was a leading proponent in the White House of closing the terrorist detention center at Guantánamo Bay and releasing photos of detainees undergoing torture. Closing the military prison has proven to be politically difficult, and Obama reversed field on the photos, opting not to make them publicly available.

The White House did not respond to requests for comment for this article.

The liberal Conyers has been an outspoken proponent of a single-payer healthcare system and a critic of U.S. involvement in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

He has also been at odds with White House policy on extending expiring provisions of the Patriot Act, crafting legislation that is to the left of the Senate’s version.

Obama and Conyers have a complicated and nuanced relationship.

Conyers was the first member of the Congressional Black Caucus to endorse Obama over then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) for the 2008 Democratic nomination for president.

Conyers earlier this year noted that he spent most weekends in 2007 and 2008 on the campaign trail trying to get Obama elected.

I did whatever was necessary to be done to win. I met with ministers, I met with unions, I met with lawyers, I met with community activists, I met with healthcare people,” Conyers explained in early April.

The 80-year-old lawmaker, who participated in the civil rights movement alongside Martin Luther King Jr., does not shy away from saying what is on his mind.

In mid-November, Conyers said on the Bill Press radio show that Obama and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel have been “bowing down” to “nutty right-wing” healthcare proposals in a desperate effort to get legislation passed.

The Michigan Democrat, a friend of liberal filmmaker Michael Moore, said he was “getting tired of saving Obama’s can in the White House,” after progressive Democrats were forced to vote for a healthcare bill that did not call for a “robust public option” and includes language opposed by abortion-rights supporters.

Since the House narrowly passed its healthcare bill, Conyers has grown increasingly frustrated with what he sees as the White House’s willingness to weaken the role of the government in administering the proposed new benefits.

Conyers also said last month that Obama was “getting bad advice from … clowns” on Afghanistan, according to a report in the Detroit Free Press.

Some notes:

1. What a baby Obama is.

2. Add "thin skinned" to his lengthening list of publicly perceivable pathologies: narcissistic, naive, arrogant, overexposed, inexperienced, extremist, indecisive, incompetent, improvisational...

3. Obama actually calls up Congressman Conyers and cries---stop deprecating me!

4. LOL!

5. So the front bencher can then blab to the public what a big crybaby Barry is!

6. Conyers, Chair of House Judiciary, first opposed Obama over the stifling of his investigation into Acorn.

7. "Powers that be" called him off the case, complained the venerated leader of the CBC, Congressional Black Caucus.

8. That was about the same day Mrs Conyers, Detroit city councilwoman, was found GUILTY of a FELONY, imbibing bribes.

9. The most cutting criticism charged by Conyers was the time he told Bill Press, "I'm getting tired of saving Obama's can in the White House."

10. The second longest serving member of the House is furious over Afghanistan.

11. "He screwed up on health care reform," accused Conyers specifically.

12. "On Guantanamo."

13. Conyers challenges his chief exec on photos of detainees, the Patriot Act, the letting go of Greg Craig.

14. Disputing with your president is one thing.

15. But putting it out there for public perusal is, well, personal.

16. "Obama called me and told me that he heard that I was demeaning him and I had to explain to him that it wasn't anything personal."

17. There's no real reason to go there, Congressman.

18. As if Barry is 8 years old.

19. "Let's talk about it," proffered the prepubescent president.

20. I'm not in "the mood to chat," grumbled Gramps.

21. Instead, the grumpy octogenarian wants all gabbing in writing.

22. "I want something so serious that he has to respond in writing, like I am responding in writing to him."

23. Even tho Conyers claims to be the first CBC'er to back the boyish Barack.

24. "I did whatever was necessary to be done to win," vouched the venerable one.

25. It's THAT bad---the president has no pride and his own people are happy to expose him.
 
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