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New Obama plans: 'spend our way out' of downturn

UtahBill said:
Nukes, yes, but there is no such thing as clean coal.
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nukes create their own nasty byproduct

Likewise wind, solar, tidal, all are horribly expensive to build and maintain compared to existing major sources of electricity. Plus, they are not alternatives, they are merely supplements. They will never be a major source of electricity
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you're preaching to the choir

wind and solar are necessary as political sop to opponents of commonsense

And you left out the cheapest most viable part of energy, conserving it
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we were talking about jobs creation

good post
 
then don't read me

why don't you read cnn?

obama and his "senior officials?"

LOL!

they're far better qualified to explain it than i
 
The Prof said:
then don't read me

why don't you read cnn?

obama and his "senior officials?"

LOL!

they're far better qualified to explain it than i
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Thanks, Prof. I read you to mean that you still don't know what your proposal would accomplish. If you ever find out what your proposal would accomplish, let us know.
 
who cares what you know

or don't

obama knows

unlike you, he's significant
 
Bad now and getting worse.

misterman said:
Spending creates jobs. Tax cuts don't in the short run. I'm trying to find the report I saw that rating stimulative effects of tax cuts vs. spending. In the meantime, I did find this:

Report: No Correlation Between Bush Tax Cuts and Job Creation | United for a Fair Economy
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This is your objective source?

From page seven of their annual report...


Major Foundation
Support

AG Foundation
Community Investments Fund of Tides
Foundation (Rebecca Liebman and
Charles Stephens)
DBL Foundation
Franklin Conklin Foundation
Landau Family Foundation
Philip and Lynn Straus Foundation
New Visions Foundation
Samuel Rubin Foundation
Solidago Foundation
Starry Night Fund of the Tides
Foundation
Still Ain’t Satis$ed Foundation
(Shayna Berkowitz and Phyllis Wiener)
Stoneman Family Foundation
The Underdog Fund of the Tides
Foundation

Other Major Support

Anonymous (6)
Bill Creighton
Aaron Edison
Anne Ellsworth
The Estate of Richard C. Cornelison
The Estate of Alan Day
E. Marianne Gabel
Neva Goodwin
Tracy Hewat
Nora Janeway
Samuel Knight
Sara Krebsbach and Glenn Reinl
Art and Sue Lloyd
Patrick Malone
Carol Master and Sherry Mayrent
Paul Newman
Judy Pigott
Amelie L. Ratli"
Kerry Reilly
Eric Schoenberg
Randy Schutt and Susan Helper
Karen Sloss
Daniel and Jane Solomon
Nancy and Howard Thurston



Reads like a Glen Beck who's who list.


CBO says GDP will be reduced in the long run and no jobs have been created in he short-term, so there you go. The stimulus is a failure in the short-term tha harms the economy in the long-term.

“In the longer run, the legislation would result in a slight decrease in gross domestic product (GDP) compared with CBO’s baseline economic forecast.”

CBO Says Stimulus Bad for the Economy - Marc Thiessen - The Corner on National Review Online
 
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Re: Bad now and getting worse.

Ted Stryker said:
CBO says GDP will be reduced in the long run and no jobs have been created in he short-term, so there you go. The stimulus is a failure in the short-term tha harms the economy in the long-term.

“In the longer run, the legislation would result in a slight decrease in gross domestic product (GDP) compared with CBO’s baseline economic forecast.”

CBO Says Stimulus Bad for the Economy - Marc Thiessen - The Corner on National Review Online
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Care to explain this?

Note this is nominal output, so if there is any inflation whatsoever over the next ten years (and as George Mellon points out in the Wall Street Journal it is hard to imagine there won’t be) the economy could be significantly worse off after ten years of massive deficits due to the effects of massive government borrowing “crowding out” private investment.
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Does this guy know the difference between nominal and real?

Piss poor editorial if you ask me....
 
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Do you realize....

misterman said:
You realize that Congress appropriates funds, not the President, right?
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Do you realize the "stimulus" recipients who report the jobs they claim to have created do so by congressional district?

Do you realize the Representative from those districts can use this reporting in future campaign ads that illustrate their ability to bring home the pork?
 
Re: Bad now and getting worse.

Ted Stryker said:
This is your objective source?
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Didn't say it was objective. Just reliable. Your response wasn't objective either.
 
Re: Do you realize....

Ted Stryker said:
Do you realize the "stimulus" recipients who report the jobs they claim to have created do so by congressional district?

Do you realize the Representative from those districts can use this reporting in future campaign ads that illustrate their ability to bring home the pork?
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Are you claiming the stimulus funds are distributed based on politics? You're welcome to do so, but if you want someone to believe you, you ought to try to back it up with some evidence.
 
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