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New Poll shows Tea party more popular than Republican Party

Charles Martel said:
Goes forth and....gets stomped on in the elections. You ain't going nowhere. We cut our teeth at the local, state, and national levels, the infighting and bloodied walls pushed this way or that by populist movements, soccer moms, lobbyists, conservatives, liberals, whatever, you find your platform and you make a difference within the party. And then with the rest of your Constituents and by the millions...you elect your candidate.

The Conservative movements will never win a majority back if they do not work together! and you cannot work together if you're working apart. you cannot win big games Gentlemen, if you've a fractured sideline!

Now some of us are leaders, some shakers. Some block and tackle, some are on special teams. Some are responsible for staff, some for recruitment. Some for campaign excellence, some for charisma, some for spirit, some for strength. But we ALL have the same helmet on, Gentlemen. It's the same helmet. and without yer blockers, without support, yer play ain't going anywhere.

So, with all due respect scorpion, snap that chinstrap tight and get back in the huddle. Want use a few of your plays, let's see the playbook. But quit slicing off pattern and acting like you want to throw another interception, remember the last was returned for a Barack Obama touchdown and a Joey Biden/Hillary Clinton two point conversion.

Huddle up.:mrgreen:
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Oh look folks this is what I expect a typical Party responce guess you missed the whole topic huh? So let me ask you and the rest off you what is more important your Loyalty to your party or Loyalty to The United States.
 
misterman said:
We are keeping the Republicans out of government so they can't do more damage. That alone is an enormous accomplishment.
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So the democrats can do just the same as the republican have done brillant. As long as We American hang to this stupid Two Party System then the longer we will have what is going on in DC. It's time for all American to choice are you a American or you for your Party First.
 
disneydude said:
The real question is why would ANY minority vote for the Republican party?
I've never understood Log Cabin Republicans myself. Why support a party that would love nothing more than see your rights subbrogated.
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So what don't you understand huh maybe you need some edumacation on this subject.
 
disneydude said:
Sorry...but you are wrong. It was Gil and he was referring to pre-packaged salad mixes that contain slivers of cabbage, radish and carrot. Hardly nutrious.
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You've never seen pre-packaged Caesar salad with Romaine in it???

Wal-Mart has it, and cheap too.

I've proved my point and I'm done with it.
 
disneydude said:
I'm not sure where that is...but when I buy Butternut Squash at my local ranch market, which has produce for about 1/4 of what the supermarkets charge, I pay at least $2 for a butternut squash.
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Then you are getting ripped.
I find it rather hard to believe that anyone could feed a family of 4 day after day for a dollar a head.
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That's about what we spend per meal, unless we splurg and do steak and baked.... which we do alot.
Even so....you are basically the same price as running down to Jack in the Box and getting 8 tacos or Burger King for 4 double cheese burgers.
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I thought you wanted every one to have a nutritious meal. :confused:
The point being....cheap high fat fast food is what many of the poor nourish themselves on.
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Point being they are just being lazy, and that is how they guarantee they will stay poor.
 
Dav said:
Tell me which of the following things you advocate:
-End the New Deal (Social Security included)
-Anti-labor unions
-No welfare
-End the Great Society (Medicare/Medicaid included)
-No "public option" or universal health care
-Free markets without regulations
-Flat tax rate
-Military interventionism (such as the Vietnam War)

Barry Goldwater advocated all of these. If you really wouldn't mind Goldwater-style conservatism, then that would mean that you do too.




That is not true at all. Those things mean as much to the GOP as reproductive rights and gay marriage mean do the Democratic Party. They are only two of many issues.
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You are somewhat misconstruing what I said. I'm not advocating for "Conservatism"...what I am saying is that I could stomach it better if they simply focused on fiscal conservatism and dropped the right-wing social agenda.
Personally, I found Romney attractive until he started courting the evangelical vote and agreed to promote their agenda.
Would I vote for a true "Conservative" ? Possibly depending on the issues facing the country, but probably not.
Would I ever vote for what the GOP calls a "Conservative" today? Not in a million years.
 
Scorpion89 said:
Oh look folks this is what I expect a typical Party responce guess you missed the whole topic huh? So let me ask you and the rest off you what is more important your Loyalty to your party or Loyalty to The United States.
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So, be loyal to the US and throw your vote away on a third party candidate who can't get elected to city dog catcher?
 
disneydude said:
You are somewhat misconstruing what I said. I'm not advocating for "Conservatism"...what I am saying is that I could stomach it better if they simply focused on fiscal conservatism and dropped the right-wing social agenda.
Personally, I found Romney attractive until he started courting the evangelical vote and agreed to promote their agenda.
Would I vote for a true "Conservative" ? Possibly depending on the issues facing the country, but probably not.
Would I ever vote for what the GOP calls a "Conservative" today? Not in a million years.
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So in other words you lied when you said:

disneydude said:
Absolutely. I would be all for a Goldwater conservative party. Dump the social agenda and get back to what being a conservative REALLY is.
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You don't actually give a crap what kind of conservatism the GOP follows. You oppose both kinds. You just wanted to bash the GOP and used a popular means of doing so, ignoring the fact that it's only popular among non-liberals.
 
Charles Martel said:
So, be loyal to the US and throw your vote away on a third party candidate who can't get elected to city dog catcher?
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Last time I look when we say the pledge it does say I pledge allegance to The Democrat or Republican party now does it. I take it you don't know much about our Founding Fathers and there desire not to have Political Parties.

Like I said I'm register as an American I dare you to go out and do the same Charles or you to much of Cow Towing Party Loyalist that should be Tared and Feathered like they did in Colonial Days.
 
Dav said:
Tell me which of the following things you advocate:
-End the New Deal (Social Security included)
-Anti-labor unions
-No welfare
-End the Great Society (Medicare/Medicaid included)
-No "public option" or universal health care
-Free markets without regulations
-Flat tax rate
-Military interventionism (such as the Vietnam War)
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Not to mention his opposition to the Civil Rights act of '64.
 
Dav said:
So in other words you lied when you said:




You don't actually give a crap what kind of conservatism the GOP follows. You oppose both kinds. You just wanted to bash the GOP and used a popular means of doing so, ignoring the fact that it's only popular among non-liberals.
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No...I would be all for a Goldwater Conservative Party. I would have a lot more respect for them than I do the current GOP and would even consider supporting a candidate, depending on what the conditions of the country were and who the alternative offered was. That is something that I cannot say about the current Republican party.

Depending on the state of the country in 2012, if things are still bad economically and Romney is the candidate and backs down on his social agenda, I would consider voting for him. I actually have a lot of respect for the man and what he was able to accomplish in his business and political life.

That said...the GOP is probably not going to nominate him. The evangelical wing will never allow it.
 
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Joe1991 said:
but... but... Glenn Beck said the teabaggers were non-partisan?

Are you saying he's full of it?



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He's telling the truth. Some might go Constitution Party, Prohibition Party or National Socialist Movement. ;)
 
Hatuey said:
Not to mention his opposition to the Civil Rights act of '64.
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I think that would actually fall under "Free markets without regulations". The idea, I'm assuming, is that businesses should be treated like individuals, and if you can't regulate which guests you invite to your home, you can't regulate which costumers businesses allow. I'm not saying I follow that line of thought, just saying that opposing the Civil Rights Act does not make one a racist, whether or not that was your intended message.

disneydude said:
No...I would be all for a Goldwater Conservative Party. I would have a lot more respect for them than I do the current GOP and would even consider supporting a candidate, depending on what the conditions of the country were and who the alternative offered was. That is something that I cannot say about the current Republican party.

Depending on the state of the country in 2012, if things are still bad economically and Romney is the candidate and backs down on his social agenda, I would consider voting for him. I actually have a lot of respect for the man and what he was able to accomplish in his business and political life.

That said...the GOP is probably not going to nominate him. The evangelical wing will never allow it.
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You're just trying to justify your bogeyman image of the GOP. If Romney were nominated and denounced social conservatism, I highly doubt you'd actually vote for him. In other words, as an all-around liberal you have no say in what type of conservatism the GOP pursues and your opinion on the issue has no importance to anyone.
 
Scorpion89 said:
Last time I look when we say the pledge it does say I pledge allegance to The Democrat or Republican party now does it. I take it you don't know much about our Founding Fathers and there desire not to have Political Parties.

Like I said I'm register as an American I dare you to go out and do the same Charles or you to much of Cow Towing Party Loyalist that should be Tared and Feathered like they did in Colonial Days.
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Cow Towing? You need a special trailer for that.
 
Scorpion89 said:
Last time I look when we say the pledge it does say I pledge allegance to The Democrat or Republican party now does it. I take it you don't know much about our Founding Fathers and there desire not to have Political Parties.
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The election process is the pledge of allegiance. The Democratic and Republican Parties return to the days of the federalists versus states rights proponents. One could have asked Thomas Jefferson why he sided with States rights, was he loyal to the US...or any one state? Was he pledging allegiance to the flag of the United States of America or to each individual state?

Like I said I'm register as an American I dare you to go out and do the same Charles or you to much of Cow Towing Party Loyalist that should be Tared and Feathered like they did in Colonial Days.
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I registered as a Republican. And actually motivate and work within the Party to produce candidates that can actually get elected. I'm not trying to write in the town clown like you are...I'm gonna cut teeth early and realize if I want to elect a Representative into office who believes as I....then I'm gonna have to compromise with others, I'm going to see the Party shift in directions I don't like to see it shift.

But that's prefereable to watching it become a socialist nation and complaining about it with useless aged old do nothing arguments such as yours. There have been unhappy populist movements since this nation's creation. There have been those that scream about being loyal to the nation and "vote your conscience." And then there are those who realize getting elected and making a real difference demands resolve. It demands compromise, it demands infighting ends underneath in the basement...that once you come out in force, we're on the same page!

Otherwise...like your argument here....you're toast.
 
Gill said:
You've never seen pre-packaged Caesar salad with Romaine in it???

Wal-Mart has it, and cheap too.

I've proved my point and I'm done with it.
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Not with cabbage, carrots and radishes. Ceasar salad doesn't contain those items.
 
Dav said:
You're just trying to justify your bogeyman image of the GOP. If Romney were nominated and denounced social conservatism, I highly doubt you'd actually vote for him. In other words, as an all-around liberal you have no say in what type of conservatism the GOP pursues and your opinion on the issue has no importance to anyone.
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Well you are wrong. If you followed this site during the last election, you would see that I wrote very favorable things about Romney. I actually said that I would possibly vote for him, unless Obama got the nomination. If Obama got the nomination, he had my vote.

Had Obama not gotten the nomination of Romney had got the nomination, I would have strongly considered voting for him, not because we agree on much, but because I thought that the two people in the raise that might actually have a chance of repairing the damage done by GWB, financially, ethically, morally and with our allies, were Obama and Romney. That was my opinion then and I still believe that to be the case. If Obama can't do it in four years, I would strongly consider going with Romney if that option were available.
 
Charles Martel said:
The election process is the pledge of allegiance. The Democratic and Republican Parties return to the days of the federalists versus states rights proponents. One could have asked Thomas Jefferson why he sided with States rights, was he loyal to the US...or any one state? Was he pledging allegiance to the flag of the United States of America or to each individual state?



I registered as a Republican. And actually motivate and work within the Party to produce candidates that can actually get elected. I'm not trying to write in the town clown like you are...I'm gonna cut teeth early and realize if I want to elect a Representative into office who believes as I....then I'm gonna have to compromise with others, I'm going to see the Party shift in directions I don't like to see it shift.

But that's prefereable to watching it become a socialist nation and complaining about it with useless aged old do nothing arguments such as yours. There have been unhappy populist movements since this nation's creation. There have been those that scream about being loyal to the nation and "vote your conscience." And then there are those who realize getting elected and making a real difference demands resolve. It demands compromise, it demands infighting ends underneath in the basement...that once you come out in force, we're on the same page!

Otherwise...like your argument here....you're toast.
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Once again you spout your Parties Talking Points, oh and for the record both the Democrats and republican parties should be declared monopley and disolved just like US Steel and Ma Bell.

So Chucky your stating you have no backbone typical of all of you Party Followers .

As for local election I'm guessing I know more about local election and how they work then you do Chucky considering my Mother was the Democratic Sect. in the State of Maine and I have another relative who is a well know Republican Sent. so yea please don't tell me that the system works because it doesn't and hasn't since JFK time. But then again I'm guessing your not old enough to recall politics pf the ;ate 60s thru the 70s.

Yea so run along and support your Talking Mouth Person show no backbone.
 
disneydude said:
New poll shows 'Tea Party' more popular than Republican Party - Yahoo! News

"Okay, suppose the Tea Party Movement organized itself as a political party. When thinking about the next election for Congress, would you vote for the Republican candidate from your district, the Democratic candidate from your district, or the Tea Party candidate from your district?"

The response of all those who were polled was Democratic 36%, Tea Party 23% and Republican 18%.

Long live the tea party movement. We should all encourage their efforts.
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yet another proof of what a colossal failure the 2-party system is.
 
NEUROSPORT said:
yet another proof of what a colossal failure the 2-party system is.
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Really? The numbers seem to show that the Democratic party is doing well and the Republicans are the failures.
 
misterman said:
No, just looking at the numbers. Nice substanceless attack though.
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You can tell the ones that come to DP, to discuss and debate, and generally get along, then there are those like you. :shrug:



What is the dems approval rating in congress? The house?


what is happening steadily to Obama's ratings?



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