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New Poll shows Tea party more popular than Republican Party

misterman said:
You don't have young kids do you? :mrgreen:
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I have four, all grown now. I now have 6 grandchildren under the age of 8.

So yes, I do know what I'm talking about.
 
Gill said:
I have four, all grown now. I now have 6 grandchildren under the age of 8.

So yes, I do know what I'm talking about.
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I was just kidding.

But hey, if you were able to get your kids to eat one-third of a plain chicken breast, some lettuce, and water, more power to you.
 
misterman said:
Most probably would if they knew what it really was instead of the teabagger lie version. Government takeover! Death panels!
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Do you have to insult people who dissent from governent intrusion? It makes you look like a partisan hack... :shrug:


I remember when you lefties were all like "dissent is the highest form of patriotism". now its vulgar name calling of dissenters...


Hypocrisy reeks.
 
disneydude said:
They argue against pretty much all gay rights legislation.
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so do democrats and Obama...

They oppose almost any legislation that helps minorities, always calling it "affirimative action" even when it isn't.

The GOP is not the friend of the poor and/or minorities.
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Link.... YOu are playing partisan hack games. :shrug:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Do you have to insult people who dissent from governent intrusion? It makes you look like a partisan hack... :shrug:
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No, I'm only insulting people who lie and/or believe hysterical lies.

I remember when you lefties were all like "dissent is the highest form of patriotism". now its vulgar name calling of dissenters...
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It's not hypocrisy. I'm not criticizing them for dissent, only for lying. Dissent all you want.
 
misterman said:
No, I'm only insulting people who lie and/or believe hysterical lies.



It's not hypocrisy. I'm not criticizing them for dissent, only for lying. Dissent all you want.
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What specific lies are the tea party movement telling. Please quote and link them.


I won't hold my breath.
 
Gill said:
I buy salad mix all the time with lettuce, carrots, cabbage, and radishes in it for that price. It's very cheap, but of course I shop at Wal-Mart so I'm probably paying half what you are for organic salad at your union grocery.

Yes, one chicken breast cut into strips and chunks is plenty for three kids. If not, they're cheap so throw another one in there.
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LOL...are you refering to the slivers of carrots, cabbage and radish that is in the standard iceberg mix? There is little to no nutritional value in that.

http://www.mn-farmtoschool.umn.edu/lettuce_promos.html
Sorry....but you cannot make a healthy meal for three kids for much less than $10. It just isn't going to happen.
 
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
What specific lies are the tea party movement telling. Please quote and link them.


I won't hold my breath.
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I already did. "Death panels" and "government takeover." Those are both lies. There are no death panels, and this bill is not a government takeover of health care. These are frequently repeated.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Do you have to insult people who dissent from governent intrusion? It makes you look like a partisan hack... :shrug:


I remember when you lefties were all like "dissent is the highest form of patriotism". now its vulgar name calling of dissenters...


Hypocrisy reeks.
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What you fail to recognize is that there are those who "Dissent" from government...and then there are teabaggers. They aren't the same.
 
misterman said:
I already did. "Death panels" and "government takeover." Those are both lies. There are no death panels, and this bill is not a government takeover of health care. These are frequently repeated.
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No links, I'm supposed to take your word for it?
 
disneydude said:
What you fail to recognize is that there are those who "Dissent" from government...and then there are teabaggers. They aren't the same.
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Sort of like saying "there are hispanics, and then thier are spics"....



Its a pathetic partisan hack way of insulting your opposition, and it relegates you to irellevance.... :shrug:
 
really? what would they revolt about?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
No links, I'm supposed to take your word for it?
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Really? You really haven't heard those, ever? I'm not saying you have to take my word for it, but if you haven't heard them, it means you're absolutely incredibly uninformed about this whole debate. Is that what you're saying?
 
Ahh, gotta love childish name calling by the upstanding left on this forum :roll:

Thanks for the great news Disney. This is a good thing. The Tea Parties were originally created for, and have primarily focused on (mind you, the focus of the majority, not the base minority that people foolishly and idiotically, because of their own pathetic hyper patisan hackyness, like to present as the majority) fiscal responsability. So if it means that fiscal responsability is becoming more and more of a focus and concern for conservative voters in this country then I'm all for it.

Now, you and Joe continue your worthless typical hyper partisan liberal spin. Its entertaining in a pathetic, sad little way.
 
disneydude said:
The flaw in this argument is that under a corporatist society, you keep wages just low enough to keep people hungry and you ensure enough of an unemployed workforce to keep the worker from doing the very thing that you suggest.
That is the Wal-Mart model.
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I don't believe we have arrived at the point where we would qualify as a corporatist state tho there are those who believe that is where obama is heading with his purchase of GM and laws designed to advance the cause of unions, a major part of his powerbase.

Some 75% of us workers work for small businesses, not corporations. Small business owners tend to be mavericks, not joiners. They don't have the power, or the interest to "control" the wages paid to "the working class." Hell, those individuals who own small businesses are normally from the same social classes and are often friends and relatives of their employees. Face it, "the man" isn't holding anyone down. They simply pay what the market demands. It it's hard getting the quality of employees they need, they'll pay more.

Our fear, and it's a real one in light of eurpean history, is the government may end up being "the man" that holds us down. So, no, I'll take capitalism with all it's faults before I'll take an all powerful intrusive government and it's nameless, bloodless, bureaucrats.
 
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misterman said:
Really? You really haven't heard those, ever? I'm not saying you have to take my word for it, but if you haven't heard them, it means you're absolutely incredibly uninformed about this whole debate. Is that what you're saying?
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I am aware of individuals making claims, I am unaware of the "Tea party movement" "telling lies" as you claimed.


Your lack of facts, has once again retarded honest discussion. Your bad.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Do you have to insult people who dissent from governent intrusion? It makes you look like a partisan hack... :shrug:


I remember when you lefties were all like "dissent is the highest form of patriotism". now its vulgar name calling of dissenters...


Hypocrisy reeks.
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hh, there is NO government intrusion here.
 
liblady said:
hh, there is NO government intrusion here.
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Really? So I can keep my health insurance, I can also choose to give my employees more money in lieu of health care?


REALLY? HOW AWESOME! Thanks liblady, I was under the impression that there was all sorts of mandates, and taxes coming down the pipe....
 
Zyphlin said:
Ahh, gotta love childish name calling by the upstanding left on this forum :roll:

Thanks for the great news Disney. This is a good thing. The Tea Parties were originally created for, and have primarily focused on (mind you, the focus of the majority, not the base minority that people foolishly and idiotically, because of their own pathetic hyper patisan hackyness, like to present as the majority) fiscal responsability. So if it means that fiscal responsability is becoming more and more of a focus and concern for conservative voters in this country then I'm all for it.

Now, you and Joe continue your worthless typical hyper partisan liberal spin. Its entertaining in a pathetic, sad little way.
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Oh puh-lease. Do you even for a minute believe that the vast majority of the people who showed up were concerned primarily about fiscal responsibility?
If they were....where were they for the previous 8 years.
No....most of them were there because they were told to be there by the blowhard right-wing radio nuts whom they idolize....and for no other reason.
 
liblady said:
hh, there is NO government intrusion here.
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Certainly there is. It comes in the form of taxes, unjust laws, and government bureaucracy. As Reagan once said the scariest ten words in the english language are "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you."
 
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disneydude said:
Oh puh-lease. Do you even for a minute believe that the vast majority of the people who showed up were concerned primarily about fiscal responsibility?
If they were....where were they for the previous 8 years.
No....most of them were there because they were told to be there by the blowhard right-wing radio nuts whom they idolize....and for no other reason.
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Lovely blanket statement. While calling them out on their stereotypical behavior, you perpetuate one of your own. :)
 
EpicDude86 said:
Lovely blanket statement. While calling them out on their stereotypical behavior, you perpetuate one of your own. :)
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Its not a blanket statement meant to apply to all. There are legitimate tea party protestors....and then there are teabaggers. Its really that simple.
 
disneydude said:
Oh puh-lease. Do you even for a minute believe that the vast majority of the people who showed up were concerned primarily about fiscal responsibility?
If they were....where were they for the previous 8 years.
No....most of them were there because they were told to be there by the blowhard right-wing radio nuts whom they idolize....and for no other reason.
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Using this logic I take it that you think the vast majority of all the war protests were all fake mindless zombies of the left wing blogosphere since you know....Iraq is still going on, Afghanistan is still going on, Pakistan is being talked about and suddenly there's far, far left outcry and protests from the Left.

Same thing about Immigration. We still don't have amnesty, still don't have reform to immigration, and yet where are the gigantic immigrant right protests.

Or could it possibly be that when things are even worse than just bad (such as Obama spending FAR more than Bush, or Bush being far worse on war than obama) OR when its not your ideology in control, the natural instinct for people is to become more outspoken about a situation?

your one sided bull**** is...well...expected from you.
 
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