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Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

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Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision
Updated Dec 6, 2009
By JPOST.COM STAFF

Iran criticized a Swiss ban on the construction of minarets on mosques, and warned of rising Islamophobia in Europe, Iranian English-language news agency Press TV reported Saturday. According to the report, Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki held a phone conversation with Swiss counterpart Micheline Calmy-Rey to criticize the ban, which was approved in a referendum on Sunday.

"This move did not befit a country claiming to be a number one advocate of democracy and religious freedom under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights," Mottaki was quoted as saying in the conversation. "The ban will undoubtedly change Switzerland's image as a leading advocate of human rights," he added. Mottaki reportedly warned his Swiss counterpart that the ban on building minarets was likely to have far-reaching implications both for the Swiss people and the Muslim minority.

In Athens on Tuesday, Swiss foreign minister said the government was worried about the ban. Calmy-Rey stressed that Muslims were accepted in Swiss society, and the decision would not change the foreign policy of the country, which would continue to maintain close relations with Muslim nations.
"Swiss Muslims are well integrated and will continue to attend the 200 mosques in the country," she said. The minister said if an appeal against the referendum is lodged at the European Court of Human Rights, it would be up to the court to decide on its legality.
Source: The Jerusalem Post

I agree with the Iranian FM here. The minaret ban projects intolerance and short-sightedness. I have a great respect for the Swiss people and I am fairly confident that this referendun will be repealed.
 
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Glad to hear the Iranian FM defend religious tolerance, now if they could gather tolerance in their own borders, then I'll give them even more credit.
 
Tolerance - associated with the Iranian government since 1979.
 
The best thing Europe can do is to embrace Swiss rejection of Islam....;)
It will be Europe's salvation in the end.....;)
 
I agree with the Swiss ban on minarets. And I think the next step should be a ban on muslim immigration to Switzerland. In fact I think all western nations should ban muslim immigration until muslims clean house of the radicals within their religion. I admit this would be a formidable task considering estimates put the number of radicals at 1% of 1.5 billion. Thats approximately 15 million jihadist worldwide. To put that number in perspective there are approximately 5000-8000 current members of the KKK. The KKK had almost 6 million members at its peak in 1924. Of course the KKK was located mainly in the USA and many Americans vocally condemned them. The Civil Rights movement in America brought down the klan and other groups like them. What it will take to minimalize and eliminate radical Islamic extreamist? It will take a strong visual and vocal movement of moderate muslims to stand up and strongly condemn those who claim to be fighting jihad for Allahs cause against the kafir. I would like to point out that this has yet to take place in mass such as the civil rights movement did. I think that there is a reason it has not taken place. IMO the majority of muslims secretly sympathize with the extreamist among them. As of yet I have seen nothing to make me think otherwise.
 
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I agree with the Swiss ban on minarets. And I think the next step should be a ban on muslim immigration to Switzerland. In fact I think all western nations should ban muslim immigration until muslims clean house of the radicals within their religion. I admit this would be a formidable task considering estimates put the number of radicals at 1% of 1.5 billion. Thats approximately 15 million jihadist worldwide. To put that number in perspective there are approximately 5000-8000 current members of the KKK. The KKK had almost 6 million members at its peak in 1924. Of course the KKK was located mainly in the USA and many Americans vocally condemned them. The Civil Rights movement in America brought down the klan and other groups like them. What it will take to minimalize and eliminate radical Islamic extreamist? It will take a strong visual and vocal movement of moderate muslims to stand up and strongly condemn those who claim to be fighting jihad for Allahs cause against the kafir. I would like to point out that this has yet to take place in mass such as the civil rights movement did. I think that there is a reason it has not taken place. IMO the majority of muslims secretly sympathize with the extreamist among them. As of yet I have seen nothing to make me think otherwise.


I think you should take a nice long trip to Irbid, Jordan, and come back and tell us if you find Islamist Extremists dancing in the street ontop of baby non-muslim skulls.

I've read your comments and I have presented my rebuttals to your comments, but I rarely ever get any feedback from you . So I am just going to decide that you're myopic and more willing to believe ignorantly based fictitious claims about a people you know little about.

Comparing Muslims to the KKK. GTFO, for reeealz.
 
Tolerance - associated with the Iranian government since 1979.

exactly... I wonder how many christian church steeples are being constructed in Tehran. Or magnificent synagogues.

I'm all for religious tolerance, but if any complaint is to be seriously considered by the swiss gov't it needs to be in the form of words from swiss citizens, not the iranian regime.
 
I agree with the Swiss ban on minarets. And I think the next step should be a ban on muslim immigration to Switzerland. In fact I think all western nations should ban muslim immigration until muslims clean house of the radicals within their religion. I admit this would be a formidable task considering estimates put the number of radicals at 1% of 1.5 billion. Thats approximately 15 million jihadist worldwide. To put that number in perspective there are approximately 5000-8000 current members of the KKK. The KKK had almost 6 million members at its peak in 1924. Of course the KKK was located mainly in the USA and many Americans vocally condemned them. The Civil Rights movement in America brought down the klan and other groups like them. What it will take to minimalize and eliminate radical Islamic extreamist? It will take a strong visual and vocal movement of moderate muslims to stand up and strongly condemn those who claim to be fighting jihad for Allahs cause against the kafir. I would like to point out that this has yet to take place in mass such as the civil rights movement did. I think that there is a reason it has not taken place. IMO the majority of muslims secretly sympathize with the extreamist among them. As of yet I have seen nothing to make me think otherwise.

None of this has anything to do with the subject of this thread, but thanks for playing!
 
Glad to hear the Iranian FM defend religious tolerance, now if they could gather tolerance in their own borders, then I'll give them even more credit.

Tolerance - associated with the Iranian government since 1979.

exactly... I wonder how many christian church steeples are being constructed in Tehran. Or magnificent synagogues.

I'm all for religious tolerance, but if any complaint is to be seriously considered by the swiss gov't it needs to be in the form of words from swiss citizens, not the iranian regime.

Part of being viewed as, or setting yourself up as, a paragon of virtue in any respect also sets you up for criticism if you fall short -- and no matter where it comes from or how ironic it seems, it's justified.

None of you can honestly tell me that:

"This move did not befit a country claiming to be a number one advocate of democracy and religious freedom under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights," Mottaki was quoted as saying in the conversation. "The ban will undoubtedly change Switzerland's image as a leading advocate of human rights," he added.

. . . is in any way untrue, can you?
 
The best thing Europe can do is to embrace Swiss rejection of Islam....;)
It will be Europe's salvation in the end.....;)

I agree with the Swiss ban on minarets. And I think the next step should be a ban on muslim immigration to Switzerland. In fact I think all western nations should ban muslim immigration until muslims clean house of the radicals within their religion. I admit this would be a formidable task considering estimates put the number of radicals at 1% of 1.5 billion. Thats approximately 15 million jihadist worldwide. To put that number in perspective there are approximately 5000-8000 current members of the KKK. The KKK had almost 6 million members at its peak in 1924. Of course the KKK was located mainly in the USA and many Americans vocally condemned them. The Civil Rights movement in America brought down the klan and other groups like them. What it will take to minimalize and eliminate radical Islamic extreamist? It will take a strong visual and vocal movement of moderate muslims to stand up and strongly condemn those who claim to be fighting jihad for Allahs cause against the kafir. I would like to point out that this has yet to take place in mass such as the civil rights movement did. I think that there is a reason it has not taken place. IMO the majority of muslims secretly sympathize with the extreamist among them. As of yet I have seen nothing to make me think otherwise.

You both can stop wetting yourselves now. The ban is on minarets alone. Not mosques, not Islam and definitely not Muslims. Even those who brought the referendum to the table have absolutely no intention of banning Islam or Muslims from Switzerland.
 
Part of being viewed as, or setting yourself up as, a paragon of virtue in any respect also sets you up for criticism if you fall short -- and no matter where it comes from or how ironic it seems, it's justified.

Such pretensions are also often associated with deception, betrayal, and outright hypocrisy. (though not always)

None of you can honestly tell me that:



. . . is in any way untrue, can you?

I won't, but it doesn't matter. It is an issue that should be decided by the swiss people. It is their country, and I certainly won't presume that they are somehow intolerant just because some iranian official complains about their building regulations (or preferences).
 
Such pretensions are also often associated with deception, betrayal, and outright hypocrisy. (though not always)

Could you maybe rephrase that? In Engrish? ;)

I won't, but it doesn't matter. It is an issue that should be decided by the swiss people. It is their country, and I certainly won't presume that they are somehow intolerant just because some iranian official complains about their building regulations (or preferences).

I'm not presuming that they are somehow intolerant just because some Iranian official complains about their building regulations (or preferences). I've already reached certain conclusions on my own, which agree with the Iranian PM's, and I'm saying that we can't discard his words just because he's the PM of Iran.
 
Could you maybe rephrase that? In Engrish? ;).

No, I don't think so. Sounds good as is to me.



I'm not presuming that they are somehow intolerant just because some Iranian official complains about their building regulations (or preferences). I've already reached certain conclusions on my own, which agree with the Iranian PM's, and I'm saying that we can't discard his words just because he's the PM of Iran.

Right, and I'm not discarding what the Iranian said either. As they say, even A broken clock is right twice a day.
 
Part of being viewed as, or setting yourself up as, a paragon of virtue in any respect also sets you up for criticism if you fall short -- and no matter where it comes from or how ironic it seems, it's justified.

None of you can honestly tell me that:



. . . is in any way untrue, can you?
Do realize that you're arguing against arguments against hypocrisy.
I'll be damned, but I think that makes your arguments for hypocrisy.

I do not support the Swiss move, does that mean that I do not find it hypocrite that Iran condemns them? ;)
 
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Do realize that you're arguing against arguments against hypocrisy.
I'll be damned, but I think that makes your arguments for hypocrisy.

I do not support the Swiss move, does that mean that I do not find it hypocrite that Iran condemns them? ;)

I'm not addressing the subject of hypocrisy in any way, shape or form.

I'm just saying that we can't go LOL IRAN in response to Iranian comments, because they're true.
 
I'm not addressing the subject of hypocrisy in any way, shape or form.

I'm just saying that we can't go LOL IRAN in response to Iranian comments, because they're true.
And since I, just like the other two you've decided to honorably quote, have not shared any of this phenomenal you're so charmingly call "LOL IRAN", but rather, have made a claim for hypocrisy in the Iranian statement - this had little to do with our comments that were fully aimed against the definition of the term 'hypocrisy'.
 
And does this idiot represent a nation which allows Christians or Jews to build their own places of worship and pray? No. Does anybody take this hypocrit seriously? No.
 
You both can stop wetting yourselves now. The ban is on minarets alone. Not mosques, not Islam and definitely not Muslims. Even those who brought the referendum to the table have absolutely no intention of banning Islam or Muslims from Switzerland.

Just trying to look at the bright side.....;)
 
What are you talking about? There are lots of churches and synagogues in Iran.

Do christians and jew in Iran enjoy equal rights with muslim iranians?
 
What are you talking about? There are lots of churches and synagogues in Iran.

Sure there is but their practices are restricted and are not given equality under the law. So they are not "free" to build mosques or synagogues or pray or practice their religion in the sense of the word.
 
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