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Iranian FM criticizes Swiss minaret ban decision

Yeah and I am saying you cannot even begin to compare Muslim Extremism to the KKK.

Why not. The KKK is an extreme organization which preaches hate and intolerance and have in the past acted violently aginst those who they hate. Are you claiming that Islamic extremist do not compare?

Now. Where's that 15 million figure coming from?

Most estimates place the percentage of the worlds 1.5 billion muslims who are radicalized to be approximately 1%. That is 15 million muslims who believe that it is their duty to wage jihad for Allahs cause against the kafir.
 
Most estimates place the percentage of the worlds 1.5 billion muslims who are radicalized to be approximately 1%. That is 15 million muslims who believe that it is their duty to wage jihad for Allahs cause against the kafir.

Thin air, in other words. :lol:
 
Most estimates place the percentage of the worlds 1.5 billion muslims who are radicalized to be approximately 1%. That is 15 million muslims who believe that it is their duty to wage jihad for Allahs cause against the kafir.

Source?

Half of that 1.5 billion are females. I know there have been some female terrorists, but that is only a small minority. That would leave 750 million potential terrorists. Where you got the 1% estimate from... I couldn't even find a source that put it over .25%.
 
Why not. The KKK is an extreme organization which preaches hate and intolerance and have in the past acted violently aginst those who they hate. Are you claiming that Islamic extremist do not compare?

If you are going to use "hate and intolerance" as a criteria for comparison, then you can compare Islamic Extremism to the Assyrians. You can compare Scythian nomads to Tamil Tigers. Hate and intolerance is not unique it doesn't nothing but superficially describe; there is no substance there.

Most estimates place the percentage of the worlds 1.5 billion muslims who are radicalized to be approximately 1%. That is 15 million muslims who believe that it is their duty to wage jihad for Allahs cause against the kafir.

No. 1% would be the amount considered to be Isalmists. I would say that you could probably get away with circa 2 million-3 million to militant Islamists.

Out of the M.A.K that was established by Usama Bin Laden, al-Zawahiri, and Abdullah Azzam, only one of them was militant in nature. One of them was persuaded to, and the other one was assassinated for his defiance.
 
The Bahá'í Faith, Iran's largest non-Islamic religious minority, is not recognized and is persecuted. There have been reports of imprisonment, harassment, intimidation, and discrimination based on religious beliefs. Conversion is forbidden and the Hudud distributes different punishments for the same crimes between Muslims and non-muslims (muslims naturally recieving the lighter punishments).

In the case of adultery, for example, a Muslim man who is convicted of committing adultery with a Muslim woman receives 100 lashes; the sentence for a non-Muslim man convicted of adultery with a Muslim woman is death.

So dont tell me they are protected minorities and are free because thats a liberal LIE.

Fair enough. I thought we were sticking to the constitutionally protected and recognized religious minorities. You are right that all others, especially the Bahai, have been persecuted for decades.
 
what about apostates who convert from Islam to Christianity? Could a jew become the Prime Minister of Iran?

Iran being an Islamic state the chances of a Jew becoming the PM are about as hight as the chances of a Muslim becoming the PM of the Jewish state of Israel.
 
Iran being an Islamic state the chances of a Jew becoming the PM are about as hight as the chances of a Muslim becoming the PM of the Jewish state of Israel.

Sounds to me like you just spoiled the plot for the next Dan Brown book.

Dammit!

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Why not. The KKK is an extreme organization which preaches hate and intolerance and have in the past acted violently aginst those who they hate. Are you claiming that Islamic extremist do not compare?

Comparing the KKK to Islamic Extremists? Wow, way to insult the Jihad. You know if they read that comment they're gonna come for you first. HOW DARE YOU COMPARE THE MIGHT OF ALLAH TO SOME INFIDEL GAGGLE OF SHEET WEARING MADMEN!
 
Iran being an Islamic state the chances of a Jew becoming the PM are about as hight as the chances of a Muslim becoming the PM of the Jewish state of Israel.

Correct, there is inherrent inequality on the basis of religion.

And why was that Iranian complaining about the Swiss? Switzerland is not a state controled by religious fanaticism or fundamentalism last time I checked... Couldn't there be another reason they want to scrap the Minarets?
 
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Comparing the KKK to Islamic Extremists? Wow, way to insult the Jihad. You know if they read that comment they're gonna come for you first. HOW DARE YOU COMPARE THE MIGHT OF ALLAH TO SOME INFIDEL GAGGLE OF SHEET WEARING MADMEN!

At least they wear clean sheets.......;)
 
Correct, there is inherrent inequality on the basis of religion.

And why was that Iranian complaining about the Swiss? Switzerland is not a state controled by religious fanaticism or fundamentalism last time I checked... Couldn't there be another reason they want to scrap the Minarets?

The reason or reasons are probably as complicated as the Swiss psyche. We're a very odd lot here. An anomaly by European standards. This article I read the other day is totally spot on. We tried to fix an inexistent problem and created a whole bunch of new problems in the process, which we'll probably set out to fix eventually in ways that everyone else will disaprove of or misunderstand :lol: :

http://http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/opinion/05stamm.html?_r=2&scp=3&sq=swiss%20ban%20minarets&st=cse

This part is so essentially Swiss it's not even funny :lol: :

The prevailing Swiss attitude is both conservative and liberal: on the one hand everything should stay the way it is, on the other everyone should be able to do what he or she wants.
 
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