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Poll: Isolationism soars among Americans

Sure but nothing happened like 9/11 and we don't fight wars and kill innocent civillians. Are you going to tell me that 9/11 is some conspiracy theory?

Your country isn't worth it to them. You have tons of muslims anyways, they wouldn't waste the time and effort. Now, Infidel America on the other hand...
 
Your country isn't worth it to them. You have tons of muslims anyways, they wouldn't waste the time and effort. Now, Infidel America on the other hand...

Don't underestimate. US aircraft carriers frequently dock at the naval base here for R & R.
 
Sure but nothing happened like 9/11 and we don't fight wars and kill innocent civillians. Are you going to tell me that 9/11 is some conspiracy theory?

What are you talking about? The London bombings killed hundreds and so did the Madrid and Barcelona attacks and the ones in Delhi. You are now grasping for straws. Your claims was that they didn't attack the rest of the worst. This is on it's face a ****ing lie.
 
What are you talking about? The London bombings killed hundreds and so did the Madrid and Barcelona attacks and the ones in Delhi. You are now grasping for straws. Your claims was that they didn't attack the rest of the worst. This is on it's face a ****ing lie.

Besides Al-Qaeda and Taliban I also consider the US as terrorists.
 
Not only Libya, there are many in your own country too and elsewhere.

no doubt.

I would, personally, like a re-structuring of the term "Terrorism". It only holds weight, now, to exaggeration the opposition.
 
The more the government clamps down on population in the name of control the more the population with retaliate.

They don't have to clamp down in the name of control. They already have the control via a willing population who is increasingly dependent on government for survival. Admittedly, a sizeable willing, sane, and mindful enough segment of a population can prevent and sometimes overturn that trend, but it's not usual in my observation.

Your premise is that there is a "natural state of Government", but that requires the government to be from nature and not a construction of man.

I said control is the nature of government (ie governmental structures). The men are of nature, and men make up government. It's the nature of men who are in governing positions to try and maintain or increase power. It's the concept of government and its implications.
 
Why does this sound like a justification for an authoratarian regime? Hitler and Mussolini both used the same kind of argument, although you could argue that Mussolini was fairly benign in his regime.

It's not a justification. It's an observation of humans and their nature. I am the last person who desires an authoritarian regime in control. I am sufficiently capable of controlling my base instincts, my greed, and my use of resources. I don't expect anyone else to pay my way. I don't expect to be treated special. I expect to pull my share of the load. People like me are declining in numbers.
Whatever happened to "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."?

The people have become weak, demanding, and self-focused. It's not what is in the country's best interest that people vote for, it's what's in the best interest of the individual, who wants to pass his/her own responsibility onto others.

Notice that this states that the government of the United States is formed BY THE PEOPLE. The government exists on our sufference, not the people existing on the government's sufference.

The government exists on the sufferance of the people who are willing to sacrifice. Those who pay the taxes. Those who are supporting the ones who vote themselves taxpayer money. It was a wonderful idea for the founding of a country, but many of the people have betrayed the principles upon which the US was founded.

Where, in any of this, did the government EVER achieve the right to "control" the population in any way, shape, or form?

Many of us have given the government that right through negligence and dependency.
 
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Why don't they target the rest of the world? Madrid? London? Paris? Beirut? Mogadishu? Tanzania? Singapore? Manila? What do all these places have in common?

...Qutb didn't single them out as the ulitmate scapegoat of all things anti-God for the Muslim people in the 1950s.

We did nothing as compared to what the Soviets did to them...yet we are the "Great Satan." Foriegn policy is a scapegoat for the foolish who need to believe that there is something practical behind the madness. I find that most athiest are cluelsee of what our enemy is.
 
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