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New York State Senate Votes Down Gay Marriage Bill

That is a cop out and you know it DD Huge difference in the races marrying ang gays.......When the races marry its man and woman....not so if you allow gays to do so......entirely different.................

Its no different at all. Society at one time defined marriage as being between those of the same race. That definition was changed. There is nothing so "sacred" about a word that it cannot be changed. History has shown us that.
 
Yet you just responded to his post. What the hell happened to you while you were away, Chief?

Yeah your right but it will be the only time.............I just took a break after the election.........I wanted to give Obama a chance.......How are you my friend? Still fighting the good fight.............Sad day here in the PNW.we are havng the funerals of 4 police officers guned down in cold blood............
 
Its no different at all. Society at one time defined marriage as being between those of the same race. That definition was changed. There is nothing so "sacred" about a word that it cannot be changed. History has shown us that.

I think if heterosexuals spent more energy making their relationships sacred on a personal level and less time trying to legitimize their bastardization of their own traditions by laying claim to a word as "sacred", you might not see as much break down of the family unit as we have.
 
I think if heterosexuals spent more energy making their relationships sacred on a personal level and less time trying to legitimize their bastardization of their own traditions by laying claim to a word as "sacred", you might not see as much break down of the family unit as we have.

well said...
 
I think if heterosexuals spent more energy making their relationships sacred on a personal level and less time trying to legitimize their bastardization of their own traditions by laying claim to a word as "sacred", you might not see as much break down of the family unit as we have.
Yeah it's because of opposition to state-sanctioned gay marriage that we have a break down of the family unit.

Good one there. :doh
 
Yeah it's because of opposition to state-sanctioned gay marriage that we have a break down of the family unit.

Good one there. :doh

You completely misunderstood him. :doh
 
Yeah it's because of opposition to state-sanctioned gay marriage that we have a break down of the family unit.

Good one there. :doh

That's not what I said at all.

However...would you like to explore all the ways the "sacred" institution of marriage has been mistreated while under the watch of heterosexuals?

I mean, if anti-gm is gonna lay claim to the family unit and the institution, you gotta own it all. The good and the bad.
 
My god, how can people not see the way things are going.Gay marriage is inevitable over time.If it isnt you are gonna have to rely on a hell of alot of young people becoming homophobic as they get older, when usually the opposite is true.
 
You know by now little boy I don't respond to your posts so please don't respond to mine.....thanks.........

I don't care what you respond to. Your comments are nothing more than ignorant, hate-filled, homophobic rants with no basis in reality and I will continue to show that whether you like it or not.

I'll show your homophobic comments for what they are, ridiculous, and if you don't like that don't post.
 
As long as Gays can change then they have to be a class of people defined by their sexual oreientation............

So since you believe that sexual orientation is changeable,what you are telling us is that you could very easily wake up tomorrow and decide that you are sexually attracted to men. Right?
 
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So since you believe that sexual orientation is changeable what you are telling us that you could very easily wake up tomorrow and decide that you are sexually attracted to men. Right?

Ok, I laughed at this. How wonderful that would be................
 
Ok, I laughed at this. How wonderful that would be................

I think there is actually hope for Navy....I think down deep he really wants to change his views...but is so stuck in his ways that he just can't bring himself to do it.
 
However...would you like to explore all the ways the "sacred" institution of marriage has been mistreated while under the watch of heterosexuals?
Not really. Perhaps we should discuss the seasonal and diurnal variation in flocking patterns of the North American Crow instead? It's of similar relevance to the thread.

I mean, if anti-gm is gonna lay claim to the family unit and the institution, you gotta own it all. The good and the bad.
I'm no more anti-gm than you are anti-hm -- and I have no idea what you mean by "laying claim."
 
Not really. Perhaps we should discuss the seasonal and diurnal variation in flocking patterns of the North American Crow instead? It's of similar relevance to the thread.

It's completely relevant. If heterosexual marriage must be "saved" then why not do the obvious to save it instead of picking on gays, who aren't doing a thing to hurt it?
 
I think there is actually hope for Navy....I think down deep he really wants to change his views...but is so stuck in his ways that he just can't bring himself to do it.

In the closet, so to speak.
 
Not really. Perhaps we should discuss the seasonal and diurnal variation in flocking patterns of the North American Crow instead? It's of similar relevance to the thread.

Umm, no. But thanks for showing just how disingenuous you can be when confronted with ugly truths.

I'm no more anti-gm than you are anti-hm -- and I have no idea what you mean by "laying claim."

Then you haven't read the thread and aren't very familiar with the debate in general.

Besides, it was a side conversation between Disney and I that you jumped into. Next time, don't go wading into the water unless you are prepared to contend with the sharks. :mrgreen:
 
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Ok, I laughed at this. How wonderful that would be................

How wonderful his answer will be, if he doesn't dodge the question.
 
It's completely relevant. If heterosexual marriage must be "saved" then why not do the obvious to save it instead of picking on gays, who aren't doing a thing to hurt it?
Who is picking on gays? I'm not.
 
Who is picking on gays? I'm not.

If not, then you can ignore the question. But it's relevant to the thread, because others are picking on gays.
 
So since you believe that sexual orientation is changeable,what you are telling us is that you could very easily wake up tomorrow and decide that you are sexually attracted to men. Right?

I don't know and neither do you but a lot of people have testified it happened to them .......I am not going to call them a liar..............
 
How wonderful his answer will be, if he doesn't dodge the question.

He won't dodge it. His answer will be....I can't but others can.

He will say there was a woman who was married for several years and then decided to be a Lesbian (Not ever considering that perhaps due to societal pressure that she was lying to herself and her family for many years until she was finally comfortable enough to accept it). Just watch.
 
He won't dodge it. His answer will be....I can't but others can.

He will say there was a woman who was married for several years and then decided to be a Lesbian (Not ever considering that perhaps due to societal pressure that she was lying to herself and her family for many years until she was finally comfortable enough to accept it). Just watch.

Can we please bring it back to topic. And no, Navy is not the topic.
 
I don't know and neither do you but a lot of people have testified it happened to them .......I am not going to call them a liar..............

You don't know Navy? So then you are saying that you are unsure of yourself and it is possible that you could decide to become gay and be attracted to men.

I don't know about you....but I know for a fact that my sexual orientation cannot be changed.

More power to ya though.
 
It's completely relevant. If heterosexual marriage must be "saved" then why not do the obvious to save it instead of picking on gays, who aren't doing a thing to hurt it?

They are trying to change it.............The American people don't want it changed.............

:confused:
 
They are trying to change it.............The American people don't want it changed.............

:confused:

The American people didn't want inter-racial marriage changed....but it was. Damn those activist courts.
 
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