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4 Police Officers Shot Dead Near Washington State Air Force Base

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
This is dumb....


So what of the dc "snipers".... FAIL :lol:
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what is dumb is recognizing an obvious vulnerability which promotes crime and ignoring it


the long range sniping is the exception ... the use of handguns while commiting crime is the rule
 
justabubba said:
what is dumb is recognizing an obvious vulnerability which promotes crime and ignoring it


the long range sniping is the exception ... the use of handguns while commiting crime is the rule
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You keep making claims, but they are based on emotions rather than logic....


are you aware for example that there are 192 million privately owned firearms in the US?



That most people like myself who own handguns are law abiding citizens?



Do you smoke weed? Drink?
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
You keep making claims, but they are based on emotions rather than logic....


are you aware for example that there are 192 million privately owned firearms in the US?



That most people like myself who own handguns are law abiding citizens?



Do you smoke weed? Drink?
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actually, it appears you are the one who may have parked their logic at the entrance
privately owned firearms in the residence, even if handguns, are not the problem

hand guns on the street are a huge facilitator of criminal activity. we should not authorize their presence in public (except by LEOs)

the criminal element hides behind the public availability of handguns to the law abiding public

and yes, i continue to indulge in many things and have indulged in most things; what's your point?
 
justabubba said:
actually, it appears you are the one who may have parked their logic at the entrance
privately owned firearms in the residence, even if handguns, are not the problem

hand guns on the street are a huge facilitator of criminal activity. we should not authorize their presence in public (except by LEOs)

the criminal element hides behind the public availability of handguns to the law abiding public
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How many people like me have concealed carry permits? How many crimes do we commit?


and yes, i continue to indulge in many things and have indulged in most things; what's your point?
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Alchohol and weed I guarantee you is more associated with criminal activity and crimes than my kimber .45


Lets now be a hypocrite and see you calling for a ban on these substances as well.



How many CCW
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
How many people like me have concealed carry permits? How many crimes do we commit?
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and you provide cover for the criminals who carry handguns
with malicious intent

Alchohol and weed I guarantee you is more associated with criminal activity and crimes than my kimber .45
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ok, document your guaranty with some facts

Lets now be a hypocrite and see you calling for a ban on these substances as well.
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why ban the substances instead of prosecuting the illegal behavior which results from abusing them?



How many CCW
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i am sensing you were trying to develop a point here; help us out
 
So Huckabee, is covering his ass again. He has a long line of pardons, and then covering his ass when they do something wrong again. He is the ulitmite hyporcite, I think at least. I tend to think people who let off crimanls like this are Hyporcites thats needs to get out of offices. My father is a cop, and when I hear something like this I get worried about his saftey.
 
justabubba said:
and you provide cover for the criminals who carry handguns
with malicious intent
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your use of hyperbole, I give a c-.... it caused a mere smirk... but only on one side of my mouth...


How so?



why ban the substances instead of prosecuting the illegal behavior which results from abusing them?
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:lol: you look like a hypocrite. don't do that. :mrgreen:
 
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Alchohol and weed I guarantee you is more associated with criminal activity and crimes than my kimber .45

ok, document your guaranty with some facts
^^^^^Weak^^^^^
It's a no brainer that more people drink & smoke than own Kimber .45's...;)Quote:
Lets now be a hypocrite and see you calling for a ban on these substances as well.

why ban the substances instead of prosecuting the illegal behavior which results from abusing them?
^^^^Don't look now, but you are bolstering his arguement.....
If you like I can spell out for you, but the contradiction should be painfully evident.....:rofl
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How many CCW

i am sensing you were trying to develop a point here; help us out
 
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
your use of hyperbole, I give a c-.... it caused a mere smirk... but only on one side of my mouth...


How so?








:lol: you look like a hypocrite. don't do that. :mrgreen:
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please inform us of the hyperbole you have found and describe the hypocrisy identified in my post(s)
 
Erod said:
What's scarier is that you think a "law" would have kept a handgun out of his hands. Geez.

Let's see, it's against the "law" to kill someone, but he did it. So you think he would follow a handgun law, but not that whole murdering law thing.
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As a convicted felon, he was already prohibited from possessing a handgun by federal law. So much for that.

..and, you make an excellent point.
 
PogueMoran said:
its not just dumond huck has a history of pardons that have gone wrong. Wade Stewart was given clemency by huck after murdering a 25 year old he then went on to rob a hooker using his .38. Huck pardoned and commuted more prisoners than the previous 3 governors over 18 years. From 1996 to 2004 he helped free more prisoners than the six neighboring states: louisiana, mississippi, missouri, oklahoma, tennessee, and texas combined. It seems huck has several willie hortons now
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....At least he wasn't selling them.



[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardons_controversy"]source[/ame]



Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges.[15] Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. Hugh Rodham returned the payments after they were disclosed to the public.[16] Braswell would later invoke the Fifth Amendment at a Senate Committee hearing in 2001, when questioned about allegations of his having systematically defrauded senior citizens of millions of dollars.[17]
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
This is dumb....


So what of the dc "snipers".... FAIL :lol:
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I think one of the best ways to end gang violence is to train them well in the use of rifles.

That, of course, is a factitious statement.
 
justabubba said:
what's scary is the folks who refuse to recognize that this scenario developed because of the availability of handguns
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In my opinion, this scenario developed because we don't use the death penalty often enough. Add to this our foolishness about releasing violent criminals long before they've served their entire terms.

Idiots.

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Glinda said:
In my opinion, this scenario developed because we don't use the death penalty often enough. Add to this our foolishness about releasing violent criminals long before they've served their entire terms.

Idiots.

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excelent freaking post Glinda..... :thumbs: :shock:
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
excelent freaking post Glinda..... :thumbs: :shock:
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:shock: Why, thank you. :mrgreen:






Take heed, all! Some of us "loony lefties" aren't quite as loony or left as others would like to believe. And for the record, I own a firearm. My trusty Mossberg is sitting by the front door, just in case. ;)
 
Glinda said:
:shock: Why, thank you. :mrgreen:






Take heed, all! Some of us "loony lefties" aren't quite as loony or left as others would like to believe. And for the record, I own a firearm. My trusty Mossberg is sitting by the front door, just in case. ;)
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Make that mossberg more trusty by taking a home defense course. :thumbs:
 
Glinda said:
Take heed, all! Some of us "loony lefties" aren't quite as loony or left as others would like to believe. And for the record, I own a firearm. My trusty Mossberg is sitting by the front door, just in case. ;)
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I have a Red Ryder next to mine ;)

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Ya know the main suspect was released by Huckabee from an Ark. Prison?
 
God Guided Huckabee to Free Cop Killer & Over a Thousand Others! | God's Own Party?

“None of the prosecutors were ever told why Huckabee felt compelled to have a hand in freeing so many prisoners, though all of them speculate that his deeply religious nature led to a strong belief in repentance and forgiveness. In some cases, prosecutors say, evangelical leaders attested that a prisoner had found Jesus and that seemed to influence the governor’s thoughts.”

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFTdif_Lvsk&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Lois Davidson tells her story[/ame]



Over 1000 commutations and pardons? I am kind of pissed off at Huckabee, as a daughter of a cop, you can imagine how pissed off I am at these pardons and commutations based on someone's word that they found Jesus.
 
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Glinda said:
In my opinion, this scenario developed because we don't use the death penalty often enough. Add to this our foolishness about releasing violent criminals long before they've served their entire terms.
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In my opinion, this scenario developed because we don't put more focus on identifying the type of person who will most likely re-offend, as well as education prior to, and rehabilitation and societal integration after the fact.
These would greatly reduced the amount of violent crimes committed and associated costs.
 
justabubba said:
what's scary is the folks who refuse to recognize that this scenario developed because of the availability of handguns
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Whats scary is your completely non-sequitur argument. A handgun is an inanimate object. Availability of it didn't cause this situation to develop. This situation developed because a psychotic, violent individual decided it was time to start killing cops. That's why it developed. The handgun was but a tool. Had he used a high powered long rifle the carnage could have been much worse. He could have stayed back and shot first responders at will, well out of handgun range.
had the long gun been a better means to effect this ambush, then that would have been the weapon of choice
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What? That doesn't even make a bit of sense. An AR-15, a SEMI AUTOMATIC tactical rifle, would have been a much better choice for an ambush.
(non automatic) long guns are effective defensive weapons. handguns are offensive weapons. ignore the difference at your own peril
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This too doesn't make sense. :roll:
 
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Coolguy said:
In my opinion, this scenario developed because we don't put more focus on identifying the type of person who will most likely re-offend, as well as education prior to, and rehabilitation and societal integration after the fact.
These would greatly reduced the amount of violent crimes committed and associated costs.
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So, your saying that this occurred because we lack the ability to read minds and forecast the future.
 
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