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Obama vows to ‘finish the job’ in Afghanistan

targeted attacks, i think. really gone after bin laden. bombed the **** out of the taliban, but no occupying forces.

Yea, bomb them with "targetted attacks"...it's just that easy.
 
targeted attacks, i think. really gone after bin laden. bombed the **** out of the taliban, but no occupying forces.

A war can't be won from the air, alone. There's no way around putting infantry soldiers on the ground. That's just a reality of warfare.
 
yes, pulling out of afghanistan would be a political (and geopolitical) catastrophe

the region, as we all know, would become thoroughly destabilized

pakistan is nuclear, never forget

and yet staying and trying to win will repel his base

it will also be nearly impossible for him ultimately to succeed, were he even (hypothetically) interested in victory over there

picking some strategy halfway between is the worst option

so, of course, it's the one he'll adopt
 
A war can't be won from the air, alone. There's no way around putting infantry soldiers on the ground. That's just a reality of warfare.

The Enola Gay
 
Where did the Enola Gay take off from when she went on that mission????

I'll give you a hint: it wasn't California.
CV(N)-6 USS Enterprise
 
The Democrats can't finish (and win) a war if they tried. Barack Obama needs to quit with his empty promises. He will go down as one of the worst US presidents in history.
 
The Democrats can't finish (and win) a war if they tried. Barack Obama needs to quit with his empty promises. He will go down as one of the worst US presidents in history.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems to me the war is "finished" when the president says it's finished (provided the media likes the president and is willing to back him up).
Why is Iraq suddenly "finished"?
Because Obama says so.
The majority of the American people don't want to be at war. We're eager to believe progress has been made, and our troops are free to come home.
Obama could announce next week that we've won the war in Afghanistan, that we've achieved "victory", as defined by a new set of guidelines that he and his war council have made up, and the majority of Americans would be dancing in the streets.
Everybody's sick of bad news, sick of this long war. Nobody really knows what we're supposed to be doing over there anymore.
Americans are tired of the recession, tired of unemployment, tired of the daily rising casualty count in the middle east.
Most of us just want Obama to talk pretty to us again, about "hope" and "change".
 
Maybe it's just me, but it seems to me the war is "finished" when the president says it's finished (provided the media likes the president and is willing to back him up).
Why is Iraq suddenly "finished"?
Because Obama says so.
The majority of the American people don't want to be at war. We're eager to believe progress has been made, and our troops are free to come home.
Obama could announce next week that we've won the war in Afghanistan, that we've achieved "victory", as defined by a new set of guidelines that he and his war council have made up, and the majority of Americans would be dancing in the streets.
Everybody's sick of bad news, sick of this long war. Nobody really knows what we're supposed to be doing over there anymore.
Americans are tired of the recession, tired of unemployment, tired of the daily rising casualty count in the middle east.
Most of us just want Obama to talk pretty to us again, about "hope" and "change".

Escapism won't stop AQ from planning and executing devestating attacks on our homeland. Americans need to come to terms with what we're facing, i.e., a ruthless and determined enemy who will stop at nothing to destory our country. Retreating and declaring "victory" isn't going to make this problem go away.
 
Maybe it's just me, but it seems to me the war is "finished" when the president says it's finished (provided the media likes the president and is willing to back him up).
Why is Iraq suddenly "finished"?
Because Obama says so.
The majority of the American people don't want to be at war. We're eager to believe progress has been made, and our troops are free to come home.
Obama could announce next week that we've won the war in Afghanistan, that we've achieved "victory", as defined by a new set of guidelines that he and his war council have made up, and the majority of Americans would be dancing in the streets.
Everybody's sick of bad news, sick of this long war. Nobody really knows what we're supposed to be doing over there anymore.
Americans are tired of the recession, tired of unemployment, tired of the daily rising casualty count in the middle east.
Most of us just want Obama to talk pretty to us again, about "hope" and "change".

Too bad it's not that simple.
 
If the next 911 comes from there, you betcha.
The first 911 came from there, and we should have carpet bombed the mountains out there with nukes. It averted many American deaths at the end of WWII, and would have done the same here. It also would have proven once and for all that we don't take **** off of anybody.
 
Because, as someone whose supposed to be a leader, he needs to display some decisiveness and the ability to think on his feet. What PBO has done was prove that he doesn't possess either quality and tried to pass it off as being careful. Caution is a bad thing in warfare. It sucks when politicians worry more about their politics than they do about their soldiers that on the battlefield.
caution is a bad thing in warfare?

i don't for one minute believe that obama is more worried about himself than the country.
 
The first 911 came from there, and we should have carpet bombed the mountains out there with nukes. It averted many American deaths at the end of WWII, and would have done the same here. It also would have proven once and for all that we don't take **** off of anybody.

To quote words you keep repeating, that's Bush's fault. :mrgreen:
 
To quote words you keep repeating, that's Bush's fault. :mrgreen:
911 is Clinton's fault, but everthing after that till eternity is Bush's fault.
 
It can, but PBO ain't the man for the job. He made that statement today to take the heat off the fact that he's totally screwing the pooch.
what would you have him do?
 
caution is a bad thing in warfare?

i don't for one minute believe that obama is more worried about himself than the country.

I'm sorry, but he entirely is. He hasn't spent the last six months devising a strategy for Afghanistan. He's spent the last six months trying to figure out how to play the polls, and what he can and can't get away with in NOT supporting the military.

He's only sending more troops because the polls say he has to. Period. This guy is a ideological oaf.
 
what would i have him do?

win
 
that's all up to him, i'm afraid
 
I'm sorry, but he entirely is. He hasn't spent the last six months devising a strategy for Afghanistan. He's spent the last six months trying to figure out how to play the polls, and what he can and can't get away with in NOT supporting the military.

He's only sending more troops because the polls say he has to. Period. This guy is a ideological oaf.

Yep, Obama just wakes up every morning going "Gee, how can I get more U.S. troops killed and hurt America". :roll:

What a tool some on the right are.
 
i'm not bitching and moaning

i'm observing

i expect him to win

no one cares about me, tho

the point, therefore, is---it's not about me

most middle americans want success---THAT's the point

they don't know how, they're not responsible for knowing how

they're not president

it's his problem, it's a big one, there's no way out, afghanistan is killing this president and it's going to get a lot worse

that's all i'm saying

i could say i feel sorry for him

which, who could possibly care

except i personally believe it's all his own fault

cuzza the the central place in his campaign he gave to this "right war"

cuzza his march 27 statement

cuzza his entire approach to the region since inauguration

i saw this coming the instant he brought it up in campaign

he's making promises he can't keep, doesn't even want to keep, as a matter of fact

my opinion, if you're really interested
 
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